Re: Talk: Why You Really Want To Write Tests

2005-03-29 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 11:05:28AM -0500, Robert wrote: > "Tests let you know, right away, when they're screwed up your code" > > Should be: Tests let you know, right away, when they've screwed up your > code > > or > > Should be: Tests let you know, right away, when they're are screwing up yo

Re: Talk: Why You Really Want To Write Tests

2005-03-29 Thread Robert
"Michael G Schwern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 06:28:21PM +, Adrian Howard wrote: >> PS "O'Reilly will have a small book soon" ? > > Oh yeah, that's the developer's testing notebook Ian Langworth and > chromatic > are working on. >

Re: Talk: Why You Really Want To Write Tests

2005-03-23 Thread Adrian Howard
On 22 Mar 2005, at 19:11, Michael G Schwern wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 06:28:21PM +, Adrian Howard wrote: I can't believe you didn't stick a reference to the perl-qa list there :-) The audience was not Perl programmers. Primarily Haskell and Java. A few people expressed interest in Perl

Re: Talk: Why You Really Want To Write Tests

2005-03-22 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 06:28:21PM +, Adrian Howard wrote: > PS "O'Reilly will have a small book soon" ? Oh yeah, that's the developer's testing notebook Ian Langworth and chromatic are working on.

Re: Talk: Why You Really Want To Write Tests

2005-03-22 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 06:28:21PM +, Adrian Howard wrote: > I can't believe you didn't stick a reference to the perl-qa list there > :-) The audience was not Perl programmers. Primarily Haskell and Java. A few people expressed interest in Perl afterwards but mostly in the form of "so why d

Re: Talk: Why You Really Want To Write Tests

2005-03-22 Thread Adrian Howard
On 4 Mar 2005, at 17:15, Michael G Schwern wrote: [snip] There's not nearly enough references, particularly when I expect the audience to go out and work things out on their own. I still can't think of a decent testing book nor tutorial to recommend. Test::Tutorial leaves the reader at a dead

Re: Talk: Why You Really Want To Write Tests

2005-03-04 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 06:51:41PM -0500, James E Keenan wrote: > Liked the emphasis on version control. Had to learn Subversion as part > of working in Phalanx project -- and had to learn Test::More much > better. Glad I did both. While I tried to keep the talk focused on just testing I found

Re: Talk: Why You Really Want To Write Tests

2005-03-04 Thread James E Keenan
Michael G Schwern wrote: I was asked to give something about testing to an audience of undergraduate informatics students, largely Haskell and maybe some Java. What I finally came up with is this: http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/talks/Why_Test/ Liked the emphasis on version control. Had to learn