RE: Stubborn coworkers

2006-08-31 Thread Conrad Schneiker
> From: A. Pagaltzis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * Ryan, Martin G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-31 03:30]: > > In certain problem domains each remains the language of choice. > > They weren't aiming to solve as broad a range of problems as > > perl does so one shouldn't expect them to have as hi

Re: Stubborn coworkers

2006-08-31 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Ryan, Martin G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-31 03:30]: > "This is a similar problem that Forth and Lisp had." > > How so? Are they multi-paradigmatic leading to a large and > rich selection of syntax and approaches to choose from? Or do > they try to shoe-horn you into a specific approach that

Re: Stubborn coworkers

2006-08-30 Thread Jeff Stampes
Thank you Martin, and everyone else. We've had several other conversations, and I believe this boils down to just a natural pessimist. She wants to see perl continue to be a widely adopted successful language, and while she is willing to do whatever work it takes to learn, she doesn't have

RE: Stubborn coworkers

2006-08-30 Thread Ryan, Martin G
> "My bigger concern with the Perl6 syntax is that they expect humans to > write it. This is a similar problem that Forth and Lisp had. You see > how widely used those are now..." ... > How would you respond? I would expose and challenge the presumptions in the statement. "My bigger concern.

Re: Stubborn coworkers

2006-08-30 Thread Steffen Schwigon
Jeff Stampes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "My bigger concern with the Perl6 syntax is that they expect humans > to write it. This is a similar problem that Forth and Lisp had. > You see how widely used those are now..." It will always be difficult to compare Perl X against any other language. Pe

Re: Stubborn coworkers

2006-08-29 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Jeff Stampes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-29 17:00]: > Since I came to programming after the days of Forth and Lisp > being prominent languages, I can't dispute nor concur with her > statement. How would you respond? By telling her that the comparison is flawed? Neither Lisp nor Forth have anyt

Re: Stubborn coworkers

2006-08-29 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Since I came to programming after the days of Forth and Lisp being prominent languages, I can't dispute nor concur with her statement. How would you respond? First, a bit of advice that convinced me to go with Perl 6 not only philosophically, but practically too. Go here: http://www.artlebedev

Re: Stubborn coworkers

2006-08-29 Thread Jonathan Scott Duff
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 08:57:55AM -0600, Jeff Stampes wrote: > I have one coworker known for her stubbornness. I've been hit with the > following several times, and honestly don't have a good reply: > > "My bigger concern with the Perl6 syntax is that they expect humans to > write it. This is a si

Re: Stubborn coworkers

2006-08-29 Thread Fagyal Csongor
Jeff, Greetings all. I've followed perl6 development since the beginning, and have tried to stay at least somewhat informed along the way. I'll confess to being puzzled at some of the design decisions, but knowing my own limitations have had faith in @Larry to do the right thing. This topi