Re: RFC 254 (v1) Class Collections: Provide the ability tooverload classes

2000-09-30 Thread Greg Williams
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, David L. Nicol wrote: > First we create a virtual environment to load the package into, then we > define the methods we wish to overload, then we define all the methods > to pass through the args -- No, this is not needed at all, we can use ISA > for that can't we! > >p

Re: RFC 254 (v1) Class Collections: Provide the ability tooverload classes

2000-09-29 Thread Mark Summerfield
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, David L. Nicol wrote: [snip] >sub speak { print "kerokero"; } > >foreach (?) { # go through all the methods defined in Frog::Frog > # I know there is a way to do this but do not know what it is See RFC 335 (v1): Class Methods Introspecti

Re: RFC 254 (v1) Class Collections: Provide the ability tooverload classes

2000-09-28 Thread David L. Nicol
> >So anyhow, yes, this is a big, icky problem. We want to subclass things but have them still retain their old pre-modification names, w/o changing the thing we are altering (only masking it.) Right? Here's an alternate approach: What if, instead of adding an additional and confusing bag of

Re: RFC 254 (v1) Class Collections: Provide the ability tooverload classes

2000-09-20 Thread Greg Williams
>I haven't (and won't) have time to go into this in detail :-( > >I feel that this proposal is solving the wrong problem. The issue is >that the original Forest and Frog (or DBI and DBI::st) classes are not >*designed* for user-definable Frogs (DBI::st's). If that functionality >is widely needed,

Re: RFC 254 (v1) Class Collections: Provide the ability tooverload classes

2000-09-20 Thread Greg Williams
>The DBI has this very problem! DBI->connect() returns DBI::db >objects, DBI->prepare() returns DBI::st. If you want to override the >behavior for statement handles and connections, its not enough to just >subclass DBI::st and DBI::db, you must also subclass DBI and override >connect() and prepa

Re: RFC 254 (v1) Class Collections: Provide the ability tooverload classes

2000-09-20 Thread Greg Williams
>I wonder if this problem couldn't be solved with a proper combination of >@ISA, SUPER::, NEXT::, and use delegation? (calling Damian... :-) The problem I see is a bit of trickery would be necessary to get static calls to the class to resolve to the appropriate method. Using Schwern's DBI examp