Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
Steffen Mueller schrieb: You can find a complete (and somewhat current) list of problematic modules at http://steffen-mueller.net/mi_old.html I have just completed rerunning the script that generated that list. The new list is available at above URL. Steffen

Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-07 Thread Adam Kennedy
James E Keenan wrote: Steffen Mueller wrote: You can find a complete (and somewhat current) list of problematic modules at http://steffen-mueller.net/mi_old.html Thank you very much for this public service! Indeed. Adam K

Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-07 Thread James E Keenan
Steffen Mueller wrote: You can find a complete (and somewhat current) list of problematic modules at http://steffen-mueller.net/mi_old.html Thank you very much for this public service! jimk

Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-06 Thread Adam Kennedy
I understand the concerns with M::B itself; that’s why I always use `create_makefile_pl => 'traditional'`. Indeed, and if you insist on using Module::Build, that is most certainly the sanest approach. Adam K

Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-06 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-07 00:00]: > If you ONLY use the basic functionality, and you aren't willing > to pay attention, you should be using EU:MM still, until either > MB or or MI hits 1.0, because neither of them are ready for > general use. Manual inspection has always sugge

Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-06 Thread Adam Kennedy
But you’re not catching me dead using an installer that requires me to pay attention to its development and to push up new versions of my distros in response to its bugs. There are far better ways to waste my time. Good, because that's entirely the point I've been trying to make ever since I st

Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-06 Thread demerphq
On 7/6/06, David Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Steffen Mueller wrote: > Michael G Schwern schrieb: >> What's broken and why suddenly 5.8.8? > > * ActivePerl::Config on case-insensitive filesystems interacts > erroneously with Module::Install's (outdated) @INC hack, so remove it. > (Patch

Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-06 Thread Steffen Mueller
Jan Dubois schrieb: Module::Install version 0.60 and earlier pushes one of its own directories to the front of @INC, and that directory contains Base.pm or BASE.pm, shadowing the core base.pm on case insensitive filesystems (Windows, OS X). Thank you for the explanation. I wasn't aware of this.

Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-06 Thread David Golden
Steffen Mueller wrote: Michael G Schwern schrieb: What's broken and why suddenly 5.8.8? * ActivePerl::Config on case-insensitive filesystems interacts erroneously with Module::Install's (outdated) @INC hack, so remove it. (Patch from Gisle Aas) [...] Sounds like its a combination of an M:

RE: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-06 Thread Jan Dubois
On Thu, 06 Jul 2006, Michael G Schwern wrote: > On 7/6/06, Steffen Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Versions of Module::Install < 0.61 do not work on the current > > ActivePerl release 5.8.8 build 817. > > What's broken and why suddenly 5.8.8? Module::Install version 0.60 and earlier pushes

Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-06 Thread Steffen Mueller
Michael G Schwern schrieb: On 7/6/06, Steffen Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Versions of Module::Install < 0.61 do not work on the current ActivePerl release 5.8.8 build 817. What's broken and why suddenly 5.8.8? ActiveState introduced some new form of local configuration or something.

Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-06 Thread Michael G Schwern
On 7/6/06, Steffen Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Versions of Module::Install < 0.61 do not work on the current ActivePerl release 5.8.8 build 817. What's broken and why suddenly 5.8.8?

Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-06 Thread Chris Dolan
On Jul 6, 2006, at 10:18 AM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Chris Dolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-06 16:30]: IMHO it likely counts as a CPANTS pass for now, but it may be a fail in the future unless you update the Makefile.PL with a newer M::B as bugs are discovered. To make sure we’re on the same

Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-06 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Chris Dolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-06 16:30]: > IMHO it likely counts as a CPANTS pass for now, but it may be a > fail in the future unless you update the Makefile.PL with a > newer M::B as bugs are discovered. To make sure we’re on the same page: that would be bugs in M::B::Compat, not M:

Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-06 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Steffen Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-06 15:20]: > What does Module::Build count as? ;) I use M::B with `create_makefile_pl => 'traditional'`. What does that count as? Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis //

Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-06 Thread Chris Dolan
On Jul 6, 2006, at 8:10 AM, Steffen Mueller wrote: David Golden schrieb: What about adding NO_BROKEN_INSTALLER as a Kwalitee point for CPANTS? Maybe tongue-in-cheek, but it's actually a good idea. Module::Install pre-0.61 is certainly "broken". What does Module::Build count as? ;) Steffe

Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-06 Thread Chris Dolan
On Jul 6, 2006, at 9:18 AM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Steffen Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-06 15:20]: What does Module::Build count as? ;) I use M::B with `create_makefile_pl => 'traditional'`. What does that count as? Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis // IMHO

Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-06 Thread Steffen Mueller
David Golden schrieb: What about adding NO_BROKEN_INSTALLER as a Kwalitee point for CPANTS? Maybe tongue-in-cheek, but it's actually a good idea. Module::Install pre-0.61 is certainly "broken". What does Module::Build count as? ;) Steffen

Re: Old and broken versions of Module::Install

2006-07-06 Thread David Golden
Steffen Mueller wrote: Versions of Module::Install < 0.61 do not work on the current ActivePerl release 5.8.8 build 817. There are *a lot* of CPAN distributions that use Module::Install versions in the 0.3X range. In fact the most modules that use Module::Install are still 0.3X. For example an