On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:43:05 -0600, Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do not think you two are arguing about the same thing.
>
> Certainly as Bart has shown, formats *can* see lexicals. Your
> illustration does not disprove that. It simply shows that lexical
> scoping is static sc
>> >perl5 formats do NOT support lexicals
>>
>> Eh? It looks like it, though.
>>
>> my $foo;
>> format STDOUT =
>> @>>>
>> $foo
>> .
>>
>> $foo = 123;
>> write;
>> $foo = 45;
>> write;
>>
>> It looks *so much* that way, that I think you must be
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:49:25 +0200, Bart Lateur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:57:49 +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
>
> >perl5 formats do NOT support lexicals
>
> Eh? It looks like it, though.
>
> my $foo;
> format STDOUT =
> @>>>
> $foo
> .
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:57:49 +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
>perl5 formats do NOT support lexicals
Eh? It looks like it, though.
my $foo;
format STDOUT =
@>>>
$foo
.
$foo = 123;
write;
$foo = 45;
write;
It looks *so muc
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:41:04 -0700, Glenn Linderman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1) do perl6 formats need to have exactly the same scoping rules as perl5
> formats in this regard?
perl5 formats do NOT support lexicals, so this is not a very interesting
question. (Re-)implementation of formats in
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:41:04 -0700, Glenn Linderman wrote:
>> 1) With a string, there can be no compile-time check on the variables.
>> If one isn't found, you can, at best, get a runtime error.
>
>What compile time checks are you expecting on the variables? For example:
Well, for one: "use st
Bart Lateur wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:49:14 -0700, Glenn Linderman wrote:
>
> >So who needs a special format type? Just need a string. It becomes a
> >format when you use it as such... So just
> >
> > my $frm = <<'.'
> >@<: @
> >$name, $ssn
> >.
>
> I, for one, can
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:49:14 -0700, Glenn Linderman wrote:
>So who needs a special format type? Just need a string. It becomes a
>format when you use it as such... So just
>
> my $frm = <<'.'
>@<: @
>$name, $ssn
>.
I, for one, can see two problems with this. And I'm not
I'm not on -io, so copy me on discussion. But this RFC was intriguing, so I
read the discussion on the archive for it, and have the following comments.
Perl6 RFC Librarian wrote:
>format FILE =
> @<: @
> $name, $ssn
> .
> =head2 New Syntax
>
> Under the new syntax, a f
Johan Vromans wrote:
> my $file_format = qf(
> @<: @
> $name, $ssn
> );
>
> Now, $file_format would be a Format object (compare this with qr//,
> that produces a Regex object).
or the proposed qs// which would produce a packed structure definition
> Have you also looked at Damian's Text::Autoformat, which has a renewed format
> implementation that looks *very* good a candidate for replacing perl 4/5's
> format.
Yes, I have. It's actually very powerful. I've actually been meaning to
talk to Damian about this, because at one time he had ment
Why private and not on perl6?
Posted this to both, hope you don't care.
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 13:11:53 +0200 (CEST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johan Vromans)
wrote:
> [Quoting H.Merijn Brand, on September 1 2000, 11:02, in "Re: RFC 181 (v1) For"]
> > > Is there any reason left to maintain formats as somet
On 31 Aug 2000 06:28:10 -, Perl6 RFC Librarian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Being one of world's active format users, I have to comment.
> Formats out of core / New format syntax
> Currently, the general consensus is that formats aren't widely used
> enough to justify their living in the core
Johan Vromans wrote:
>
> Good work!
Thanks. :-)
> Is there any reason left to maintain formats as something internally
> special?
Well, as you note in your implementation suggestions, it would be nice
if Perl compiled the format the first time around. Along with the
implicit constructors sugge
Perl6 RFC Librarian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Formats out of core / New format syntax
Good work! This RFC opens the possibility to normalize (e.g. make the
syntax no longer something exceptional) the formats.
>my format $FILE_FORMAT = q(
> @<: @
> $name, $ssn
> );
On 31 Aug 2000, Perl6 RFC Librarian wrote:
>my format $FILE_FORMAT =
> @<: @
> $name, $ssn
> .
>
> Then this is even less different and scary. Get rid of that C and
> it's Perl 5.
s/that C/that C and the dollar sign/;
Cheers,
Philip
--
Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This and other RFCs are available on the web at
http://dev.perl.org/rfc/
=head1 TITLE
Formats out of core / New format syntax
=head1 VERSION
Maintainer: Nathan Wiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 30 Aug 2000
Mailing List: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 1
Number: 181
Status: Develop
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