--- Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 08:48:07PM -0700, Amir Karger wrote:
>
>
> Cheat first to help you get started.
Actually, I believe True Laziness would say cheat always. Except maybe
when Hubris says it'll look cooler if it's native :)
> We found at work
On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 08:48:07PM -0700, Amir Karger wrote:
> Sure we can, and it's a tool we might want. I had gotten the impression
> that Dan considered having any extra scripts to be cheating. Then
> again,
> maybe cheating isn't such a bad thing, if it helps get the project
> started.
Cheat
> "AK" == Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
AK> --- Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > "AK" == Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> the designs range from a total code conversion, load and translate
>> the zcode into equivilent imcc. this should be the e
> "AK" == Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
AK> So you mean you require the first byte to be a number <=8, and the
AK> pointer to the end of the dictionary has to be less than the size
AK> of the file, the flag bits need to have sane values, etc.?
AK> Interesting. I guess with so
--- Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "AK" == Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> the designs range from a
> total code conversion, load and translate the zcode into equivilent
> imcc. this should be the easiest to do as you just need to write a
> code
> generator for each zco
--- Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "AK" == Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> AK> Er, I'll assume you have a magic (pun slightly intended) way to
> AK> decide which files are Zcode? How will you tell the Zcode
> AK> from other bytecode noise? I don't see anything pa
At 10:33 AM -0700 9/8/03, Amir Karger wrote:
Before I start, a list question: is Google groups mailing list-aware,
such that posting to Google's perl.perl6.internals group will email
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Might be more convenient for me than reading
stuff on Google & then logging in to my Yahoo accoun
> "AK" == Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
AK> Er, I'll assume you have a magic (pun slightly intended) way to
AK> decide which files are Zcode? I mean, sure, if the rule is
AK> "anything that doesn't match a Parrot header", you're fine, but
AK> once you've included Python bytec
Before I start, a list question: is Google groups mailing list-aware,
such that posting to Google's perl.perl6.internals group will email
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Might be more convenient for me than reading
stuff on Google & then logging in to my Yahoo account to post.
--- Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTE
On Sat, 6 Sep 2003, Amir Karger wrote:
> OK. I think I've learned enough about Parrot to respond to this email
> intelligently.
>
> --- Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > - Is it not being ported because of a lack of tuits, or because
> > > it's extremely hard?
> >
> > We'd need dyn
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Piers Cawley wrote:
> Luke Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Zellyn Hunter writes:
> >> So I take it the goal is to to teach parrot to understand z-machine
> >> opcodes, rather than simply writing a z-machine interpreter that
> >> runs on parrot, or rewriting inform to com
Luke Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Zellyn Hunter writes:
>> So I take it the goal is to to teach parrot to understand z-machine
>> opcodes, rather than simply writing a z-machine interpreter that
>> runs on parrot, or rewriting inform to compile to parrot?
>
> I doubt it. I think a z-machin
OK. I think I've learned enough about Parrot to respond to this email
intelligently.
--- Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > - Is it not being ported because of a lack of tuits, or because
> > it's extremely hard?
>
> We'd need dynamic opcode loading because we don't want to have the
>
icense stuff out of the way so I can get to actual
coding!
-Amir
p.s. re the email subject: For now, I'm calling the Parrot Z-machine
project "parrotZ". It's simple, it expresses that it's Z-machine in
Parrot, and it even rhymes with "frotz" if you pronounce it r
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Bernhard Schmalhofer wrote:
> Amir Karger wrote:
> > A couple more questions on the coding front:
> >
> > (2) WinFrotz, one of the popular C Z-machine runtimes, is GPL. If I
> > steal code or ideas from there, does Parrot or this piece of it have to
> > be GPL only instead of
Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A couple more questions on the coding front:
> (1) Even though it's supposed to be "native" Parrot support, I'm still
> allowed to write in PIR, right? Because that'll be translated to pasm
> and thereby be native.
You should target PIR. PIR is "native" pa
Amir Karger wrote:
A couple more questions on the coding front:
(2) WinFrotz, one of the popular C Z-machine runtimes, is GPL. If I
steal code or ideas from there, does Parrot or this piece of it have to
be GPL only instead of GPL/Artistic? I am happily ignorant about
licensing issues.
Hi,
I have
Zellyn Hunter writes:
> On Tuesday 02 September 2003 13:09, Amir Karger wrote:
> > A couple more questions on the coding front:
> >
> > (1) Even though it's supposed to be "native" Parrot support, I'm still
> > allowed to write in PIR, right? Because that'll be translated to pasm
> > and thereby be
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 13:09, Amir Karger wrote:
> A couple more questions on the coding front:
>
> (1) Even though it's supposed to be "native" Parrot support, I'm still
> allowed to write in PIR, right? Because that'll be translated to pasm
> and thereby be native.
>
> (2) WinFrotz, one of
Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I got my fifteen bytes of fame in the P6 summary ...
Geewhillikins ... But you can always get more: Convert it into
Unicode (~:
_VL_
"But how can we do it if we don't know what it is?"
"Why, blame it all, we've GO
A couple more questions on the coding front:
(1) Even though it's supposed to be "native" Parrot support, I'm still
allowed to write in PIR, right? Because that'll be translated to pasm
and thereby be native.
(2) WinFrotz, one of the popular C Z-machine runtimes, is GPL. If I
steal code or ideas
Darn. I was all set to write an amusing email about how I wasn't
offended that noone responded to my email, when someone went and
responded to my mail. OTOH, in the meantime I got my fifteen bytes of
fame in the P6 summary, plus the opportunity to play this week's Perl
Golf instead of mucking about
Darn. I was all set to write an amusing email about how I wasn't
offended that noone responded to my email, when someone went and
responded to my mail. OTOH, in the meantime I got my fifteen bytes of
fame in the P6 summary, plus the opportunity to play this week's Perl
Golf instead of mucking about
Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2: dynamic bytecode conversion
> (This is the point where someone tells me that dynamic opcode loading now
> works)
No it doesn't. Albeit I have posted a proof of concept standalone
program months ago.
> Nicholas Clark
leo
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:17:07AM -0700, Amir Karger wrote:
> Hi. Hugely newbie at Parroting, but think it's the coolest.
Good stuff. I hope it stays that with the inevitable setbacks and
annoyances that will come while gaining experience.
> - Is it not being ported because of a lack of tuits, o
Hi. Hugely newbie at Parroting, but think it's the coolest.
So I was bummed to see that Befunge and BASIC had already been
parroted. (And Clinton Pierce even ported QuickBasic, which makes my
Language::Basic completely useless. Argh!) Then I thought, "What about
Z-machine?!" I was surprised to se
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