At 4:40 PM +0200 8/9/04, Paolo Molaro wrote:
If people are interested, we might be able to cooperate to develop a
library which does just that (unicode string collation) and which
could be imported and used both in mono and parrot (with minimal or no
changes).
From the mono point of view, the licen
On 08/03/04 Leon Brocard wrote:
> IIRC the mono people wrote their own, but with the ICU data files.
> Apart from license issues, this might be an interesting thing to look
> at.
We use some of the ICU data files for locale info like day/month names,
date/time formats etc. We have a tool that take
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:32:33PM +0100, Alex Gough wrote:
> For what it's worth, I checked a parrot out for the first time in ages
> a couple of days ago (the Shub-tuit gives, as the Shub-tuit takes
> away...), but got all stuck failing to work out how to get icu not to
> be a problem, and so get
Josh Wilmes wrote:
If someone's got the time and I spec out the encoding and charset
APIs, I'd be thrilled if ICU became optional again. Wouldn't hurt my
feelings at all. We need it, because we need Unicode, but it doesn't
have to be required.
We'll need something that isn't ICU if we're going t
At 18:46 on 08/03/2004 EDT, Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If someone's got the time and I spec out the encoding and charset
> APIs, I'd be thrilled if ICU became optional again. Wouldn't hurt my
> feelings at all. We need it, because we need Unicode, but it doesn't
> have to be req
At 7:22 PM +0100 8/3/04, Alberto Manuel Brandao Simoes wrote:
Although I sent this ideas to this list, with another subject, here
they go again to enter in the correct thread.
I think that to have ICU included both in CVS and tarballs created
for parrot is not the best way. I know Dan (and maybe
Although I sent this ideas to this list, with another subject, here they
go again to enter in the correct thread.
I think that to have ICU included both in CVS and tarballs created for
parrot is not the best way. I know Dan (and maybe some others) do not
want to depend on too much libraries. Th
[Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 07:45:57PM +0100: Nicholas Clark]
> On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 03:09:02PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
> > Dan Sugalski sent the following bits through the ether:
> >
> > > If someone's tempted to do 3) Write our own Unicode system, I'm OK
> > > with that too. The string int
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 03:09:02PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
> Dan Sugalski sent the following bits through the ether:
>
> > If someone's tempted to do 3) Write our own Unicode system, I'm OK
> > with that too. The string internals doc needs writing, and I can get
> > that done.
>
> IIRC the m
Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
> Dan Sugalski wrote:
> > ... and therefore ICU will continue to stay in CVS as part of
> > parrot. Period.
> >
> > The alternative here is the same alternative as with GMP and big
> > numbers--we can yank ICU *if* someone writes an alternate Unicode
> > implementation for
Dan Sugalski sent the following bits through the ether:
> If someone's tempted to do 3) Write our own Unicode system, I'm OK
> with that too. The string internals doc needs writing, and I can get
> that done.
IIRC the mono people wrote their own, but with the ICU data files.
Apart from license
At 6:20 AM -0700 8/3/04, Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
--- Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
... and therefore ICU will continue to stay in CVS
as part of parrot. Period.
The alternative here is the same alternative as with
GMP and big numbers--we can yank ICU *if* someone
writes an alternate Un
--- Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ... and therefore ICU will continue to stay in CVS
> as part of parrot. Period.
>
> The alternative here is the same alternative as with
> GMP and big numbers--we can yank ICU *if* someone
> writes an alternate Unicode implementation for us.
> --
>
At 9:58 AM +0200 8/1/04, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
Jerry Gay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Leopold Toetch wrote:
Both ways - or better three stages: Its optional. If its
there, we *can* link against it. If you want/need it, and
your OS doesn't have it, well, then install it.
and if you don't want
Jerry Gay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Leopold Toetch wrote:
>> Both ways - or better three stages: Its optional. If its
>> there, we *can* link against it. If you want/need it, and
>> your OS doesn't have it, well, then install it.
>>
> and if you don't want it you get... what?
> no unicode supp
Leopold Toetch wrote:
> Both ways - or better three stages: Its optional. If its
> there, we *can* link against it. If you want/need it, and
> your OS doesn't have it, well, then install it.
>
and if you don't want it you get... what?
no unicode support? a hand-rolled solution?
just what is th
Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
For some reason (likely because it was friday), what I
was thinking in my head was not what was coming out on
the screen in front of me. The "make ICU optional"
was supposed to read "make ICU like GMP" - autodetect
it if present, but do not force it upon the user.
Both ways -
--- Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joshua Gatcomb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > All:
> > The ICU that is bundled with Parrot is old.
>
> > George Rhoten, an ICU developer, has suggested we
> > start shipping version 3.0 because:
>
> > B. Make ICU optional.
>
> Yes. And I'll vot
Joshua Gatcomb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All:
> The ICU that is bundled with Parrot is old.
> George Rhoten, an ICU developer, has suggested we
> start shipping version 3.0 because:
> B. Make ICU optional.
Yes. And I'll vote for just tossing icu/* from Parrot CVS. If one wants
to build Parro
All:
The ICU that is bundled with Parrot is old. Normally
that wouldn't be a problem if you didn't require all
the features and bug fixes with a newer version, but
we are still having problems with ICU and are even
supplying patches for it.
I went through a personal nightmare of getting it to
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