sympa hackathon: perl6 for the IM part ?

2017-03-14 Thread Marc Chantreux
hello perl6 hackers, as some of you knows, there is a sympa hackathon in 3 weeks at Strasbourg. https://listes.renater.fr/sympa/arc/sympa-developpers/2017-02/msg0.html we talked about having an optionnal IM integration to the web UI using perl6. i'm really excited about it! if so

Re: perl6 hackathon at fpw'14?

2014-07-30 Thread Marc Chantreux
hello sixers, > >* s-exml (which is about writting a grammar in perl6 or NQP), > > a s-expression based dialect to generate xml: > > This looks like fun to me :) thanks! i just put a first version on my github https://github.com/eiro/p6-lab/blob/master/sexml.p6 next moves would be: * wri

Hackathon at the Austrian Perl Workshop in October

2014-06-12 Thread Nicholas Clark
There will be a 2 day hackathon as part of the Austrian Perl Workshop this year. Given that (at least) Larry Wall, Jonathan Worthington, Liz, Wendy and FROGGS will be there, there's going to be a fair bit of Perl 6 action. The workshop is in Salzburg, Austria, from Friday 10th October to M

Re: perl6 hackathon at fpw'14?

2014-06-11 Thread Tadeusz Sośnierz
On 06/11/2014 05:35 PM, Marc Chantreux wrote: * s-exml (which is about writting a grammar in perl6 or NQP), a s-expression based dialect to generate xml: (body :lang(fr) :editable (div :class(abstract important) s-expr is way more readable and editable than xml and more

perl6 hackathon at fpw'14?

2014-06-11 Thread Marc Chantreux
hello, i would like to spend some time on perl6 during the next french perl workshop http://journeesperl.fr/fpw2014/event/1567. my "excuses" to write perl6 code are called * a marc::mir port (which is about writting bindings for JVM and/or moarVM), a set of helpers to process MARC library

Re: Perl6 Hackathon in Copenhagen

2010-01-19 Thread Jonas Brømsø Nielsen
Hello All, I have requested an Act setup for the hackathon. I have been asked to give a description for the hackathon by the OSD people so I will cook something up. But I need some assistance for the actual hackathon, something along the lines of: http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6/index.cgi

Re: Perl6 Hackathon in Copenhagen

2010-01-19 Thread Jonas Brømsø Nielsen
Hello All, Just a brief update. The OSD organizers are aiming at giving us two rooms so we can run a presentation track and a hackathon in parallel. I have been notified of a abstract from Moritz Lenz, please let me know if you submit anything - I will send out an additional call for papers

Perl6 Hackathon in Copenhagen

2010-01-12 Thread Jonas Brømsø Nielsen
Michaud If you have any changes to this list, please let me know ASAP. The hackathon will be focused on Perl6 and we will provide the room for the hackathon event at the Open Source Days conference in Copenhagen. In addition we want to make place to give some presentation in relation to the hackathon

Invitation: P6 Hackathon @ Sat Aug 29 2pm – 4pm (p erl6-langu...@perl.org)

2009-08-20 Thread Art Schmidt
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Re: Oslo Perl 6 Hackathon Notes

2009-04-13 Thread Gabor Szabo
Hi, On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:56 PM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > As some of you are aware, this week is the Nordic Perl Workshop [1], > and in the days immediately following the workshop we will have > the Oslo Perl 6 Hackathon [2].  During the first day of the hackathon > Gabor S

Oslo Perl 6 Hackathon Notes

2009-04-13 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
As some of you are aware, this week is the Nordic Perl Workshop [1], and in the days immediately following the workshop we will have the Oslo Perl 6 Hackathon [2]. During the first day of the hackathon Gabor Szabo will be doing a "Hands-on Perl 6 training" course [3], the other two da

Re: hackathon after OSCON

2008-07-09 Thread Allison Randal
Allison Randal wrote: We're planning to meet Saturday after OSCON for a Perl 6/Parrot hackathon. Location still to be determined, but it will be somewhere close to the OSCON convention center. Location confirmed: Urban Grind East 2214 NE Oregon St. Portland, OR 97232 Saturday July 26th

hackathon after OSCON

2008-07-09 Thread Allison Randal
We're planning to meet Saturday after OSCON for a Perl 6/Parrot hackathon. Location still to be determined, but it will be somewhere close to the OSCON convention center. Allison

[perl #55588] [META] June 2008 Hackathon targets

2008-06-23 Thread Will Coleda via RT
On Sun Jun 22 17:28:56 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > All the "children" of this ticket have been resolved. Can the RT be > marked resolved? Yes, was just saving it as a reminder for me to post a blog entry about the hackathon. Done and resolved. Thanks to everyone who co

[perl #55588] [META] June 2008 Hackathon targets

2008-06-22 Thread James Keenan via RT
On Tue Jun 10 11:55:31 2008, coke wrote: > Any tickets you plan to work on at the hackathon, have this ticket > refer to them, so we can keep track of what's done. Ditto any tickets > that are closed as a result of hackathon work. > All the "children" of this ticket h

[perl #55588] [META] June 2008 Hackathon targets

2008-06-10 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by Will Coleda # Please include the string: [perl #55588] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=55588 > Any tickets you plan to work on at the hackathon, have this ticket refer to them, so

Re: YAPC::NA 2008 Hackathon

2008-04-28 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 09:54:17AM -0400, Will Coleda wrote: > > Please note that the release is supposed to be occurring on the > Tuesday of the conference, 2 days after the hackathon. Should we perhaps change the release date? It seems like we might want to add a bunch of things d

Re: YAPC::NA 2008 Hackathon

2008-04-28 Thread Will Coleda
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Patrick R. Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 09:54:17AM -0400, Will Coleda wrote: > > > > Please note that the release is supposed to be occurring on the > > Tuesday of the conference, 2 days after th

YAPC::NA 2008 Hackathon

2008-04-28 Thread Will Coleda
If you're attending the YAPC::NA 2008 conference, please consider attending the pre-con parrot hackathon. Let's keep this on the yapc wiki, since we're targeting attendees as well as existing hackers. http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=ParrotHackathon I threw on on

Re: tutorial, blog, hackathon

2008-04-04 Thread Joshua McAdams
> The dorms sound workable. Is it the same dorms as last time YAPC::NA was in > Chicago? Those are under construction, so we've been moved to the other set of dorms across the road from the 2k6 dorms. They are a little older, but have been recently updated and are supposedly decent dorms (and no

Re: tutorial, blog, hackathon

2008-04-03 Thread jerry gay
oo. > > > > > > This would be excellent. If the hackathon is the weekend before > > > YAPC::NA, will the dorms and common areas be available then? > > > (I.e., would I be able to check in on the evening of June 13?) > > > > > > > yes, we&#

Re: tutorial, blog, hackathon

2008-04-03 Thread Allison Randal
Joshua McAdams wrote: > The dorms that we have this year have large common areas that we have > 24x7 access too. I can investigate them more if I need too. This would be excellent. If the hackathon is the weekend before YAPC::NA, will the dorms and common areas be available then?

Re: tutorial, blog, hackathon

2008-04-03 Thread Allison Randal
Patrick R. Michaud wrote: On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 03:22:28PM -0500, Joshua McAdams wrote: Allison wrote: Also, we're planning a hackathon the weekend before YAPC::NA, June 14-15, for core hacking, language implementation, and cage cleaning. The YAPC::NA wiki [1] currently says tha

Re: tutorial, blog, hackathon

2008-04-03 Thread Joshua McAdams
> > The dorms that we have this year have large common areas that we have > > 24x7 access too. I can investigate them more if I need too. > > This would be excellent. If the hackathon is the weekend before > YAPC::NA, will the dorms and common areas be available then?

[perl #40830] [PATCH] Man-Chicken's awesome hackathon throw-away patches...

2008-04-03 Thread James Keenan via RT
No comments since March 16, so I'm closing the ticket.

Re: tutorial, blog, hackathon

2008-04-02 Thread Andy Lester
On Apr 2, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: IIRC, there's not really a "conference hotel" for IIT. The dorms. -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: tutorial, blog, hackathon

2008-04-02 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 03:22:28PM -0500, Joshua McAdams wrote: > Allison wrote: > > Also, we're planning a hackathon the weekend before YAPC::NA, > > June 14-15, for core hacking, language implementation, and cage cleaning. The YAPC::NA wiki [1] currently says that the h

Re: tutorial, blog, hackathon

2008-04-01 Thread Joshua McAdams
> > Excellent. Where? On the IIT campus? > > Location to be determined. Likely either on campus, or at the conference > hotel, depending on where the majority of Parrot hackers are staying. The dorms that we have this year have large common areas that we have 24x7 access too. I can investiga

Re: tutorial, blog, hackathon

2008-04-01 Thread Allison Randal
Andy Lester wrote: Excellent. Where? On the IIT campus? Location to be determined. Likely either on campus, or at the conference hotel, depending on where the majority of Parrot hackers are staying. Allison

[perl #40830] [PATCH] Man-Chicken's awesome hackathon throw-away patches...

2008-03-16 Thread James Keenan via RT
Thanks for the update. I think I'll leave this ticket open for a few more days in the hope that Matt and Steve comment.

Re: [perl #40830] [PATCH] Man-Chicken's awesome hackathon throw-away patches...

2008-03-16 Thread Reini Urban
2008/3/16, James Keenan via RT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > While I think the patches proposed in this ticket are moribund, the fact > is that what little feedback we get on Cygwin indicates that many core > tests are failing during smoke testing. See, e.g., > > http://smoke.parrotcode.org/smoke/par

[perl #40830] [PATCH] Man-Chicken's awesome hackathon throw-away patches...

2008-03-16 Thread James Keenan via RT
While I think the patches proposed in this ticket are moribund, the fact is that what little feedback we get on Cygwin indicates that many core tests are failing during smoke testing. See, e.g., http://smoke.parrotcode.org/smoke/parrot-smoke-0.5.3-devel-r26408-unknown--i386-cygwin-ccache-default--

Re: tutorial, blog, hackathon

2008-03-12 Thread Andy Lester
On Mar 12, 2008, at 6:43 PM, Allison Randal wrote: Also, we're planning a hackathon the weekend before YAPC::NA, June 14-15, for core hacking, language implementation, and cage cleaning. Excellent. Where? On the IIT campus? xao -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.p

tutorial, blog, hackathon

2008-03-12 Thread Allison Randal
The first of Klaas-Jan Stol's tutorials on writing compilers with the Parrot Compiler Toolkit went up this week on http://parrotblog.org. Also, we're planning a hackathon the weekend before YAPC::NA, June 14-15, for core hacking, language implementation, and cage cleaning. Allison

Re: Hackathon at FP

2008-02-16 Thread Allison Randal
Unfortunately, I'll miss it. I had already scheduled something in Seattle Sunday afternoon before the hackathon was announced. I'm hallway hackathoning today. Allison Jeff Horwitz wrote: I *should* be there, though IIRC, Allison will not. On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, Andy Lester wrote:

Re: Hackathon at FP

2008-02-15 Thread Jeff Horwitz
I *should* be there, though IIRC, Allison will not. On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, Andy Lester wrote: I see that Allison's going to be at Frozen Perl. Will you be hackathonning? Anyone else going to be there besides me? I'm not sure I'll be sticking around for the hackathon, especi

Hackathon at FP

2008-02-14 Thread Andy Lester
I see that Allison's going to be at Frozen Perl. Will you be hackathonning? Anyone else going to be there besides me? I'm not sure I'll be sticking around for the hackathon, especially if I don't hear from anyone, so give me a reason to stay! xoxo, Andy -- A

Hackathon in Chicago less than 3 weeks away

2007-11-27 Thread Jim Keenan
A wiki has been created for the Perl Hackathon in Chicago coming up Fri-Sun Dec 14-16 -- just a little over two weeks away. http://perlcast.com/hackchicago2007/index.cgi Are any Parrot developers besides my planning to attend? If so, please register and sign up on the wiki. Thank you very

Workshop and Hackathon in Israel

2007-10-01 Thread Gabor Szabo
Hi, I have announced it elsewhere but I hope it is OK to do it here as well. On 31 December 2007 we are going to have a one day Perl Workshop in Israel http://act.perl.org.il/ilpw2007/ Following the workshop, between 1-5 January 2008 we are going to have a Hackathon in Tel Aviv. http

Re: Parrot Hackathon in Pittsburgh

2007-09-10 Thread James E Keenan
Allison Randal wrote: I'll be attending the Pittsburgh Perl Workshop to present and host a Parrot hackathon: http://pghpw.org October 13-14, 2007 I'll be there as well, speaking on coverage analysis with Perl. Some of the other sessions look interesting, so it will be tough

Parrot Hackathon in Pittsburgh

2007-09-10 Thread Allison Randal
I'll be attending the Pittsburgh Perl Workshop to present and host a Parrot hackathon: http://pghpw.org October 13-14, 2007 I'll be on hand to help new contributors get started, answer questions, and work on code. October 13th also happens to be the Parrot bug squashing day for

Re: Pre-OSCON hackathon: #hackathon

2007-07-20 Thread James E Keenan
or mattastrope or whoever handled it. Be seeing y'all on #oscon and #hackathon as well as #parrot (and maybe even #perl-qa). kid51

Re: Pre-OSCON hackathon: #hackathon

2007-07-19 Thread James E Keenan
At both Hackathon Toronto and the post-YAPC hackathon in Houston we had the use of IRC channel #hackathon. But a couple of days after the Houston event ended, the channel got heavily spammed and someone changed the channel settings to "invite only." I was not on the channel at the

Re: Pre-OSCON hackathon

2007-07-18 Thread James E Keenan
Andy Lester wrote: Then again, if it's just me & Jonathan, how much of a hackathon is that? Jonathan's a great hacker. Ergo, it would be a great hackathon.

Re: Pre-OSCON hackathon

2007-07-18 Thread Michael G Schwern
Andy Lester wrote: > There's a p5 reposithon going on at Schwern's before OSCON. I'd like to > hook up with Jonathan and whoever else is around pre-OSCON there, and > have our own little Parrot hackathon on the corner. I'm sure Schwern > will be fine with that.

Pre-OSCON hackathon

2007-07-18 Thread Andy Lester
There's a p5 reposithon going on at Schwern's before OSCON. I'd like to hook up with Jonathan and whoever else is around pre-OSCON there, and have our own little Parrot hackathon on the corner. I'm sure Schwern will be fine with that. -- Andy Lester

Re: Pre-OSCON hackathon

2007-07-18 Thread Andy Lester
On Jul 18, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Michael G Schwern wrote: Sure, the corner... the street corner outside. One hackathon is enough of a squeeze at my place, I can't fit two. May I suggest the Doubletree lobby? Yeah, that would prob'ly do, too. Sorry to attempt to impose on you. M

Re: Parrot hackathon at OSCON

2007-07-18 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 05:36:28PM -0700, Allison Randal wrote: > Saturday, July 28th, we'll have a Parrot hackathon in Portland. The > location is to-be-determined (chromatic's house if there aren't more > than 10 of us). Drop me a note if you plan to join and I'

Re: Parrot hackathon at OSCON

2007-07-18 Thread Jonathan Worthington
Andy Lester wrote: On Jul 17, 2007, at 7:36 PM, Allison Randal wrote: Saturday, July 28th, we'll have a Parrot hackathon in Portland. The location is to-be-determined (chromatic's house if there aren't more than 10 of us). Drop me a note if you plan to join and I'll upda

Re: Parrot hackathon at OSCON

2007-07-17 Thread Andy Lester
On Jul 17, 2007, at 7:36 PM, Allison Randal wrote: Saturday, July 28th, we'll have a Parrot hackathon in Portland. The location is to-be-determined (chromatic's house if there aren't more than 10 of us). Drop me a note if you plan to join and I'll update you with deta

Parrot hackathon at OSCON

2007-07-17 Thread Allison Randal
Saturday, July 28th, we'll have a Parrot hackathon in Portland. The location is to-be-determined (chromatic's house if there aren't more than 10 of us). Drop me a note if you plan to join and I'll update you with details. Allison

Re: What should I work on at the hackathon tomorrow and Friday?

2007-06-27 Thread Eric Hanchrow
That's a generous offer. How about activating the TODO test described in http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=42996, and making it pass? -- A DRE voting system is one of the simplest computer applications you could imagine. It just adds by one. -- Brit Williams, emeritus profe

What should I work on at the hackathon tomorrow and Friday?

2007-06-27 Thread Andy Lester
I'm taking requests: http://use.perl.org/~petdance/journal/33615 xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Hackathon!

2007-06-26 Thread Will Coleda
There is a hackathon following YAPC::NA this thursday. Here's the YAPC information: http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2007/wiki?node=Hackathon Here's our information: http://rakudo.org/parrot/index.cgi?hackathon_yapc_na_2007 Please update our wiki with things to do, or thi

[ANNOUNCE] Hackathon Toronto, Saturday April 28

2007-04-11 Thread James Keenan
Toronto Perlmongers are pleased to announce Hackathon Toronto, a one- day, almost-spur-of-the-moment hackathon, to be held Saturday, April 28, 2007. A hackathon is a gathering of free and open source software developers reflecting the joy of collective hacking. Building on the tradition

Re: OSCON hackathon

2006-07-10 Thread Allison Randal
Chip Salzenberg wrote: > > I think it'd be great to maintain a hackathon designated location for those > who are between tutorials, or who like me just show up during tutorial days > for the hell of it. :-) There's a designated room for hackathon/Camp-style sessions inside

Re: OSCON hackathon

2006-07-10 Thread Darren Duncan
/or not attending or presenting tutorials can perhaps continue hacking activities on those days...? I think it'd be great to maintain a hackathon designated location for those who are between tutorials, or who like me just show up during tutorial days for the hell of it. :-) Barring a b

Re: OSCON hackathon

2006-07-10 Thread Chip Salzenberg
rials can > perhaps continue hacking activities on those days...? I think it'd be great to maintain a hackathon designated location for those who are between tutorials, or who like me just show up during tutorial days for the hell of it. :-) -- Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

OSCON hackathon

2006-07-10 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
For those who are interested in doing hackathoning at OSCON, we're currently planning to do things on Sunday the 23rd. I'll see if I can find a designated place for us to meet and work. However, for those who cannot make it on Sunday, I notice that Monday and Tuesday at OSCON are primarily dedicat

YAPC::NA Synopsis Hackathon

2006-06-11 Thread Uri Guttman
I have proposed a synopsis edit hackathon subproject at YAPC::NA. read my ideas at: http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?SynopsisEdit feel free to edit and add your own comments. thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-12 Thread Larry Wall
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 06:37:58PM +0800, Autrijus Tang wrote: : * A closure form of `but` is desugared into a `do given` block that : eliminates the need of returning $_ explicitly. So those two forms : are equivalent: : : my $foo = Cls.new but { : .attr = 1; : }; : : my

MML dispatch (was: Hackathon notes)

2005-07-09 Thread Damian Conway
Larry wrote: > I would like to point out that for mere mortals, *any* MMD is already too > complex to be predictable. This is the relevant observation here. This particular mortal's experience is that more than four variants, involving parameters from more than two hierarchies makes it nearly

Re: MMD handling (was Re: Hackathon notes)

2005-07-08 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 19:19:34 -0500, Rod Adams wrote: > Then all we need is a DWIMish sort function. Think of parameter list shape (slurpiness, arity) as a mold you can fit stuff into. Then it becomes a simple matter of reducing the match list to your compatible subs. Then see http://svn.ope

Re: MMD handling (was Re: Hackathon notes)

2005-07-08 Thread Rod Adams
David Storrs wrote: On Jul 8, 2005, at 4:25 PM, Dave Whipp wrote: Rod Adams wrote: multi method foo#bar (Num x) {...} multi method foo#fiz (String x) {...} $y = 42; $obj.foo#fiz($y); # even though $y looks like a Num $obj.foo($z); # let MMD sort it out. Instead of ch

Re: MMD handling (was Re: Hackathon notes)

2005-07-08 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 16:45:09 -0400, David Storrs wrote: > Could we break them out into separate threads so that our poor summarizer > doesn't go > bonkers? See? That's what specialization/particulation is good for. Thanks for strengthening my point! -- () Yuval Kogman <[EMAIL PROTECTE

MMD handling (was Re: Hackathon notes)

2005-07-08 Thread David Storrs
First off, it seems like there are at least 3 topics being discussed under the "Re: Hackathon notes" subject line. Could we break them out into separate threads so that our poor summarizer doesn't go bonkers? On Jul 8, 2005, at 4:25 PM, Dave Whipp wrote: Rod Adams wro

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 13:25:14 -0700, Dave Whipp wrote: > Rod Adams wrote: > > > multi method foo#bar (Num x) {...} > > multi method foo#fiz (String x) {...} > > $y = 42; > > $obj.foo#fiz($y); # even though $y looks like a Num > > $obj.foo($z); # let MMD sort it out. > > Having ad

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 15:19:13 -0500, Rod Adams wrote: > $obj.foo($y); Intuitively I'd say $obj.foo(String<$y>) or something like that... $obj.foo reads like MMD on the return value to me, and in that case I'd prefer String<$obj.foo($y)> or maybe a type is a part of the context? T

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Dave Whipp
Rod Adams wrote: multi method foo#bar (Num x) {...} multi method foo#fiz (String x) {...} $y = 42; $obj.foo#fiz($y); # even though $y looks like a Num $obj.foo($z); # let MMD sort it out. Having additional tags might also give us something to hang priority traits off: "fo

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Rod Adams
Yuval Kogman wrote: Rob Kinyon had a strong argument (in #perl6) that anything that depends on load order is bound to make someone's head hurt. He has a point. Especially if one in working in something like mod_perl, and the order various modules were actually loaded in can vary greatly f

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Larry Wall
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 06:37:58PM +0800, Autrijus Tang wrote: : * Non-source-filter-ish macros work on the PIL(AST) level, not on parse tree : level. The AST should preserve enough information to derive the original : parse tree and source code back, for the compiler to use. It's not clear t

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 11:57:04 -0700, Larry Wall wrote: > On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 02:14:27PM +, Luke Palmer wrote: > : Anyway, I think that once we start diving inside expressions to > : measure their specificity, we've gotten too complex to be predictable. > > I would like to point out that

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Larry Wall
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 02:14:27PM +, Luke Palmer wrote: : Anyway, I think that once we start diving inside expressions to : measure their specificity, we've gotten too complex to be predictable. I would like to point out that for mere mortals, *any* MMD is already too complex to be predictabl

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 06:37:58PM +0800, Autrijus Tang wrote: > During the Pugs Hackathon at YAPC::NA 2005, I managed to get various > unspecced tests and features reviewed by Larry, and posted them in my > journal. The original notes is attached; I'd be very grateful if you

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 17:23:26 +0200, "TSa (Thomas Sandla)" wrote: > http://www.cs.washington.edu/research/projects/cecil/www/Papers/predicate-classes.html Regardless of MMD, I think this is an interesting concept on it's own. classe Moosish does pred:where { ... # a wh

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 17:23:26 +0200, "TSa (Thomas Sandla)" wrote: > Luke Palmer wrote: > >Anyway, I think that once we start diving inside expressions to > >measure their specificity, we've gotten too complex to be predictable. > > Well, we don't have where clauses, but where closures! The form

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 14:14:27 +, Luke Palmer wrote: > I suppose I was mostly commenting on the junctions part. I'm > proposing that All Junctions Are Created Equal. That is, there is no > specificity measuring on junctions. I also didn't really understand > your right-angle-tree-ratio mea

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread TSa (Thomas Sandlaß)
Luke Palmer wrote: Anyway, I think that once we start diving inside expressions to measure their specificity, we've gotten too complex to be predictable. Well, we don't have where clauses, but where closures! The former should be a declarative sublanguge like regexps. They are evaluated at comp

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Luke Palmer
On 7/8/05, Yuval Kogman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If we're going to reorder things for the user, > > it does need to happen in a predictable way, even if it's not correct > > 100% of the time. I find your tree to be pretty complex (that could > > be because I don't understand the reasoning fo

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 14:26:20 +0300, Yuval Kogman wrote: http://svn.openfoundry.org/pugs/docs/notes/mmd_match_order.txt now contains a proposal fofr some clear semantics on parameter coercion and MMD, if anyone cares. -- () Yuval Kogman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0xEBD27418 perl hacker & /\ ku

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 07:09:31 -0600, Luke Palmer wrote: > > the one defined LATER in the file wins That should read "the one defined in the LATER file wins" =) > If we're going to make a choice for the user (something we usually > avoid), we might as well go with the one

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Luke Palmer
On 7/8/05, Yuval Kogman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a draft of a proposition for what I think is proper MMD > dispatching order: > > http://svn.openfoundry.org/pugs/docs/mmd_match_order.txt -- > Order of definition tie breaking: > > Two signatures defined in the same file: >

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Luke Palmer
On 7/8/05, Yuval Kogman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a draft of a proposition for what I think is proper MMD > dispatching order: > > http://svn.openfoundry.org/pugs/docs/mmd_match_order.txt He meant: http://svn.openfoundry.org/pugs/docs/notes/mmd_match_order.txt Luke

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Yuval Kogman
I have a draft of a proposition for what I think is proper MMD dispatching order: http://svn.openfoundry.org/pugs/docs/mmd_match_order.txt Values may be compiled into where clauses which are eventually just a big given/when behind the scenes, but the order in which they are checked must b

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 08:50:49 +, Luke Palmer wrote: > Not unless you want to write the Halting engine that determines that 3 > is in fact more specific that 2..10. It's based on definition order, > so that if you have dependencies in you condition (which you > oughtn't), you'd better defin

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread Luke Palmer
On 7/8/05, "TSa (Thomas Sandlaß)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Constrained types in MMD position, as well as value-based MMDs, are _not_ > > resolved in the type-distance phase, but compile into a huge given/when > > loop that accepts the first alternative. So this: > > > > multi sub f

Re: Hackathon notes

2005-07-08 Thread TSa (Thomas Sandlaß)
Autrijus Tang wrote: * deref is now 0-level; $x = 3; $y = \$x; $y++. # now an exception That is because &postfix<++>:(Ref) doesn't exist, right? * sub foo (?$x, ?$Inf) {} my $y = (x => 3); foo($y); # binds $x my $z = (+Inf => 3); foo($z); # binds $Inf Isn't the lhs of => autoquoted? Wh

Hackathon notes

2005-07-07 Thread Autrijus Tang
During the Pugs Hackathon at YAPC::NA 2005, I managed to get various unspecced tests and features reviewed by Larry, and posted them in my journal. The original notes is attached; I'd be very grateful if you or other p6l people can find tuits to work them back into the relevant Syn

Hackathon days 4+5

2005-06-16 Thread Chip Salzenberg
Share & Enjoy: http://use.perl.org/~chip/journal/25234 If only use.perl didn't make me compose my HTML in a window about two inches square, it'd be great. OK, I could compose and cut&paste, but where's the fun in that? -- Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Hackathon Day 2+3 Report

2005-06-13 Thread Bill Coffman
On 6/13/05, Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've posted a report on the Hackathon Days 2+3 as a journal entry on > use.perl.org <http://use.perl.org>: > > http://use.perl.org/~chip/journal/25182 > > I'm not going to copy it here,

Hackathon Day 2+3 Report

2005-06-13 Thread Chip Salzenberg
I've posted a report on the Hackathon Days 2+3 as a journal entry on use.perl.org: http://use.perl.org/~chip/journal/25182 I'm not going to copy it here, but you probably want to read it, if only because it will point you to AN UPDATED PDD. Really. -- Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Hackathon users (was: Perl development server)

2005-05-23 Thread BÁRTHÁZI András
here will be new projects starting there, then it would be nice to share them with a server for other people, to get it after the conference, and join. But it needs an SVN server, at least, and an easy to setup plain project site skeleton. I think it would be nice, if somebody can prepare these tool

YAPC::NA pugs hackathon

2005-04-07 Thread John Macdonald
Could anyone who is wanting to come to the pugs hackathon before the Toronto YAPC::NA please contact me. There is limited space, so if too many people want to come, some will be disappointed. That will affect how you want to book your travel arrangements to Toronto (unless you're willing to