Re: Binary distributions

2006-05-03 Thread Smylers
On January 29th Tyler MacDonald wrote: > Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Did anybody here have played with CPANPLUS::Dist::Deb? > > http://search.cpan.org/dist/CPANPLUS-Dist-Deb/ > > > > Believing its documentation, it should build a valid Debian package > > and tak

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-06 Thread Adam Kennedy
Offer Kaye wrote: On 2/6/06, Adam Kennedy wrote: But I'm not really too worried any more, the CamelPack means it's much easier not to just install from source than use the PPM system. s/not/now/ Installing from souce == compiling every module that needs it... How is that *easier* than inst

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-06 Thread demerphq
On 2/5/06, Offer Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW Gozer have you looked at the first line: > Cannot forceunlink D:\cpanrun\build\5-8-0\lib\auto\List\Util\Util.dll: > Permission denied at D:\cpanrun\build\5-8-0\lib/File/Find.pm line 874 > > Maybe the script is trying to delete a file that the s

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-06 Thread Offer Kaye
On 2/6/06, Smylers wrote: > > So it seems the extra level of subdirectories are causing List::Util > (and a whole bunch of other modules) not to show up in the main perl > dist page. > > Is Cpan Search's heuristic for what gets included documented anywhere? Now that I think about it, I seem to rec

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-06 Thread Smylers
Offer Kaye writes: > I see what you mean... what threw me off was that [List::Util and > Scalar::Util are] not listed under: > http://search.cpan.org/dist/perl-5.8.8/ Well spotted! List/Util.pm (including pod) is here: http://search.cpan.org/src/NWCLARK/perl-5.8.8/ext/List/Util/lib/List/Util.

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-06 Thread Smylers
Offer Kaye writes: > On 2/5/06, Offer Kaye wrote: > > > [http://ppm.activestate.com/BuildStatus/5.8-windows/windows-5.8/Scalar-List-Util-1.15.txt > > > Something funky here... Last night I looked at "Scalar-List-Util"... > but the correct name as Tyler said is "Scalar-List-Utils", with an "s"

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-06 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Offer Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-02-06 09:15]: >Installing from souce == compiling every module that needs it... >How is that *easier* than installing a pre-compiled package? You don’t need sit there turning a crank while the compiler does its job. Does it take longer? Sure. Is it harder? No

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-06 Thread Offer Kaye
On 2/6/06, Adam Kennedy wrote: > > > But I'm not really too worried any more, the CamelPack means it's much > > easier not to just install from source than use the PPM system. > > s/not/now/ > Installing from souce == compiling every module that needs it... How is that *easier* than installing a p

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-06 Thread Adam Kennedy
But I'm not really too worried any more, the CamelPack means it's much easier not to just install from source than use the PPM system. s/not/now/ sigh Adam K

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-05 Thread Adam Kennedy
Tyler MacDonald wrote: Offer Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just an example, IO::All [1] version 0.33 has been available since Dec 17, 2004. It passed testing many times, at least according to its testers page [2]. My default 5.8.7 ActivePerl distribution lists IO::All version 0.17 .

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-05 Thread Offer Kaye
On 2/6/06, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > > http://perldoc.perl.org/perl58delta.html#New-Modules-and-Pragmata > I see what you mean... what threw me off was that it is not listed under: http://search.cpan.org/dist/perl-5.8.8/ Cheers, -- Offer Kaye

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-05 Thread Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 08:16:11AM +0200, Offer Kaye wrote: > OT question - why is Scalar-List-Utils listed as "CORE"? It is not > part of the Perl5 core http://perldoc.perl.org/perl58delta.html#New-Modules-and-Pragmata

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-05 Thread Offer Kaye
On 2/5/06, Offer Kaye wrote: > > [3] > http://ppm.activestate.com/BuildStatus/5.8-windows/windows-5.8/Scalar-List-Util-1.15.txt > Something funky here... Last night I looked at "Scalar-List-Util"... but the correct name as Tyler said is "Scalar-List-Utils", with an "s" at the end. Looking at [1]

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-05 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Offer Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Phillipe Chaisson aka "Gozer" (one of the mod_perl authors) is > > responsible for the ActiveState PPM repositories now, > Hi Gozer, nice to meet you. Gratz on ActiveState's move to a new > company, good luck :) It's a Good Thing for all com

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-05 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Offer Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just an example, IO::All [1] version 0.33 has been available since Dec > 17, 2004. It passed testing many times, at least according to its > testers page [2]. My default 5.8.7 ActivePerl distribution lists > IO::All version 0.17 . According to http:/

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-05 Thread Offer Kaye
On 2/5/06, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > >ActiveState always serves the last available version where all tests > passed on a given platform. It attempts to build and test every package on > CPAN at least once a week. If something isn't available, it means the tests > failed, which could mean: >

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-05 Thread Offer Kaye
On 2/5/06, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Sunday 05 February 2006 13:54, Tels wrote: > > Moin Offer Kaye (sorry, can't identify which part of your name which is > > the one you are called by :-) > > > > Just for everybody's information: > > Offer is his first name. (Means "Bambi" in Hebrew). Moin Tels, d

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sunday 05 February 2006 13:54, Tels wrote: > Moin Offer Kaye (sorry, can't identify which part of your name which is > the one you are called by :-) > Just for everybody's information: Offer is his first name. (Means "Bambi" in Hebrew). Kaye is his last name. (Don't know what it means - it's

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-05 Thread Adam Kennedy
Tyler MacDonald wrote: Offer Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why not start off by providing ppm.cpan.org (as the OP suggested for linux distors), or something similar? There are many modules that I want to use where the PPM version provided by ActiveState or some other repository is badly of out

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-05 Thread Tels
Moin Offer Kaye (sorry, can't identify which part of your name which is the one you are called by :-) On Sunday 05 February 2006 07:59, Offer Kaye wrote: > On 1/28/06, Tels wrote: > > Of course you must reliaze that, except for pure-perl modules and > > very controlled

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-05 Thread David Golden
Tyler MacDonald wrote: 3) Tests are failing because of ActiveState's build system For 3), that could mean because the build system itself is screwed or they don't have some library available. Phillipe Chaisson aka "Gozer" (one of the mod_perl authors) is responsible for

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-04 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Offer Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why not start off by providing ppm.cpan.org (as the OP suggested for > linux distors), or something similar? There are many modules that I > want to use where the PPM version provided by ActiveState or some > other repository is badly of out date.. A

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-04 Thread Offer Kaye
On 1/28/06, Tels wrote: > > Of course you must reliaze that, except for pure-perl modules and very > controlled environments, binary distributions are doomed to fail. > > You simple cannot guess what libraries/compiler/system/kernel the user > has installed, unless you know th

Re: Binary distributions

2006-01-30 Thread Barbie
On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 09:34:09AM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > > From what I gather, CPANPLUS is a linear package building > system, whereas YACsmoke is a wrapper around that that tries to build as > many packages as is humanly (er, computerly) possible on a system, with the > si

Re: Binary distributions

2006-01-30 Thread David Cantrell
Tels wrote: On Saturday 28 January 2006 08:20, Tyler MacDonald wrote: That is such an incredibly good idea. I've got plenty of bandwidth to burn and I'm willing to set up debian.cpan.org. Of course you must reliaze that, except for pure-perl modules and very controlled environmen

Re: Binary distributions

2006-01-30 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:13:40 -0800, Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: > Andreas J. Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> FWIW, we're using dh-make-perl to create debian packages from CPAN >> modules. > Andreas, > I've used this tool a few times when a CPAN module w

Re: Binary distributions

2006-01-30 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:05:02 -0800, Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: > Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Did anybody here have played with CPANPLUS::Dist::Deb? >> http://search.cpan.org/dist/CPANPLUS-Dist-Deb/ >> >> Believing its documentation, i

Re: Binary distributions

2006-01-29 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Andreas J. Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FWIW, we're using dh-make-perl to create debian packages from CPAN > modules. Andreas, I've used this tool a few times when a CPAN module wasn't already available in unstable/main, but I havent looked into it too closely. I'm curious, does it

Re: Binary distributions

2006-01-29 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did anybody here have played with CPANPLUS::Dist::Deb? > http://search.cpan.org/dist/CPANPLUS-Dist-Deb/ > > Believing its documentation, it should build a valid Debian package > and take care of its dependencies (dunno if that means just li

Re: Binary distributions

2006-01-28 Thread Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni
Gabor Szabo wrote: > I think I agree. That's what I would like to see solved. If I stick to > the standard apt-get (or whatever) of my distribution I would like to be > able to get all the CPAN modules by saying > > # apt-get install Module::Name Did anybody here have played with CPANPLUS::Dist::

Re: Binary distributions

2006-01-28 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Gabor Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You simple cannot guess what libraries/compiler/system/kernel the user > > has installed, unless you know the distribution and version *and* require > > that the user never updates anything. > > I think I agree. That's what I would like to see solved. If

Re: Binary distributions

2006-01-28 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Barbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm one of the maintainers/developers for CPAN::YACSmoke. I was > intrigued by your post about adding a Packager plugin to it. However, > I'm unclear as to what purpose it would serve. CPAN::YACSmoke is purely > about reporting on test results. CPANPLUS does the

Re: Binary distributions

2006-01-28 Thread Gabor Szabo
distributions or by setting up repositories such as > > > debian.cpan.org, fedora.cpan.org, etc... > > > > That is such an incredibly good idea. I've got plenty of bandwidth > > to burn and I'm willing to set up debian.cpan.org. > > Of course you must r

Re: Binary distributions

2006-01-28 Thread Tels
ot plenty of bandwidth > to burn and I'm willing to set up debian.cpan.org. Of course you must reliaze that, except for pure-perl modules and very controlled environments, binary distributions are doomed to fail. You simple cannot guess what libraries/compiler/system/kernel the user

Re: Binary distributions

2006-01-27 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Gabor Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have just moved to Ubuntu and thought I will try to rely on apt-get > to install my Perl modules. Quckly I hit a wall and could not install some > of the basic modules. I did not have the time to investigate and check > if I made a mistake or if there is a

Binary distributions

2006-01-27 Thread Gabor Szabo
Why do we need to reinvent this wheel ? Most of the platforms out there have some binary packaging system. Solaris has their own, Linuxen have rpm/deb or whatever else they have. ActiveState with its binary Perl distributions have ppm and while that's not perfect we read that they are working on f