een.
It should be about the same level of complexity as Filter::Simple,
except with much finer control and more correctness.
I'm not the best person to answer this though.
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#x27;s own string "interpolations" as things stand? E.g., is
> there a way to add meaning to backslashed characters in a string that
> would normally lack meaning?
You can subclass the grammar and change everything.
Theoretically that's a "yes"
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it bloat.
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method blah { }
}
Conversely, I'd also like to be able to do Closure, which is a
subrole of Code with a constructor. Or rather, an instantiated Code
is a proto of Closure ;-)
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capture containing the body and all the
closed over variables would be cool.
This keeps things concise and lightweight, but does add the ability
to inspect (via a well defined api) what a closure is encapsulating,
etc.
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On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 18:55:15 +0100, Juerd wrote:
> Yuval Kogman skribis 2006-11-22 16:01 (+0200):
> > my $x ::= 3;
> > sub foo { say ++$x };
>
> Why would you be allowed to ++ this $x? It's bound to an rvalue!
Perhaps my $x ::= BEGIN { Scala
;
sub foo { say ++$x;
}
BEGIN {
foo();
moose();
foo();
}
foo();
moose();
foo();
*foam oozes out of ears*
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t.();
Does create a new sequence.
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't yet read the
> declaration further down the file.
s/use/parse/;
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There are *so* many ways to do session handling that lugging them
all into CGI.pm will just make a mess.
It'd work much better as mixin plugins of some sort. I'd be happy to
discuss my conclusions from redesigning the Catalyst session
handling, if you like.
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it.
Oh!
I thought the Anna integration with the repo and all that was the
tailored precisely for you guys.
I stand corrected =)
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smoke server.
Another is written in Jifty:
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Test-Chimps/
It's further along, but is a little more specific to BP's workflow.
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er_hash.
However, conversions that cannot be made could be cought at compile
time, emitting a warning on an error depending if the runtime is a
warning or an error.
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x27; or something like that.
> for 1,2 -> $x {
> END { say $x }
> }
undef, because END is like a declaration putting the closure in some
global, and doesn't actually happen at runtime.
Otoh
for 1,2 -> $x {
state $y = $x;
What about str? Or is it called buf now?
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12:17 < nothingmuch> i mean
12:17 < nothingmuch> the rules here are reversed
12:17 < nothingmuch> Point is not a parameter to .as in the
natural sense
12:17 < audreyt> it is going to fail only if we consider the
return type
http://
other_api in appropriate places like a
> delegation interface. It's not quite as DWIMmy, but the class
> doesn't do either role so errors will be caught quickly. It is also
> annotation-agnostic.
Hmm... Are the 'adapts' things actual class bodies? Like an inner
c
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 11:35:30 +, Luke Palmer wrote:
> On 8/8/06, Yuval Kogman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I personally prefer delegates for almost any design dillema, but
> >most CPAN modules aren't that way.
>
> Well, what way are they?
Usually not
Actually this particular example is just like coercion, and it's a
bad one sorry.
It's much more relevant for:
fun( $x.foo :: Bar );
in order to annotate the return type for a call's context even if
the 'fun' function's signature accepts Any.
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design, but again, hard to encourage on a wide scale.
> Oh, and hello everyone. Long time no see :-)
Welcome back =)
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On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 11:12:11 +0100, Daniel Hulme wrote:
> I may be in a little world of my own here, but isn't this what 'as' is
> supposed to do?
>
> foo($x as Moose);
as is a method invocation not a type annotation... It's related, but
not the same (l
syntax is shiny
but everybody wants the colon:
foo( ( $x :: Moose ) );
If we do find something (please ignore the fact that :: is probably
not going to be the syntax), are these two the same?
my $x = ( $y :: Moose );
my Moose $x = $y;
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the same time, and whoever is invoking the methods must explicitly
say which behavior it prefers.
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that this wouldn't
> work for the Perl community...
Base classes, as opposed to roles, don't work well at *all* for
these types of scenarios.
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#x27;re not as popular as they should be
2. they're more classes to write
3. they're harder to use
Consequentially we have fairly few delegate based APIs for these
problems (Email:Abstract is the only one I know).
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However, we will also have new APIs, like the OO meta model:
my @attrs = $meta.attributes; # shallow
my @deep = $meta.compute_all_attributes; # deep, also from superclasses
Than
my @attrs = $meta.attrs;
my @deep = $meta.compattrs;
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[&&] (@a »eq« @b)
Neither - it's on the natural types. If the types are different it's
!=
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ics allow that, but it has nothing to do
with the language it might not even be faster.
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s are the same, or
two hashes, you need to use Data::Compare, or to overload either ==
or eq, neither of which is a perfect fit.
I have to catch my flight, so I'll explain more later.
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sub &infix: ( Any $x, Any $y ) {
~$x === ~$y
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On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 12:50:19 -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 09:32:08PM +0300, Yuval Kogman wrote:
> : [1] My preferred ergonomics:
> :
> : 1. eqv goes away
> : 2. what was eqv is renamed to ===
> : 3. === becomes =:=, which has a "constan
my @list = $tree.filter_children( $match ); # very generic and useful
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3. === becomes =:=, which has a "constant" feel to it
4. =:= is rarely useful IMHO, so you can just type
variable($x) =:= variable($y)
Ciao
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jects.
That creates a mess - sometimes objects compare themselves based on
their value, and sometimes based on their containing slot. These are
very different semantics.
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s equal, etc).
Should I go on?
> I'd avoid saying "memory", here. Some implementations of Perl 6 might
> not know what memory looks like (on a sufficiently abstract VM).
"Slot"
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rhs matches the code ref
(the code ref gets it as an argument it's a match!
That's why ~~ isn't a comparison operator, but a smart match
operator - it DWIMs *very* deeply.
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to the same variable as the RHS. Does this dereference?
> Probably not, but I'm not sure, based on S03.
Then it's a purely lexical opeation, and it doesn't even work for
my $x := $array[3];
$x =:= $array[3];
but i'll pretend you didn't say that ;-)
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. This actually works like we
expected,
appearantly pugs does some sort of COW
Under := slot semantics the first test should be false, the second should be
true, the third should be true, the fourth should be false, the fifth should be
false, and the sixth should be false.
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is retained from perl 5
without introducing new complexity to the objects being compared as
strings/numbers.
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t =:= && === inside, and it could optimize
arrays to check length first, and it could cache checksums and it could do
whatever - please don't bring this up as a performance issue, it is one of
correctness and ergonomics that must be resolved first.
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name than OS.
That said, there's no reason why there shouldn't be a convenience
wrapper around a more partitioned set of APIs, that provides a more
toolchain like approach, and keeps the docs together.
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etc), the position of the test so that we can use
backlinks, and color the test file in HTML, and potentially other
info.
It would be nice if this would be standardized.
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was very hacky to make work.
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since TAP revisions are not
explicitly asked for... Too bad I missed talking to you at the
hackathon - if I had only thought about this we could have talked in
meat-space.
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ethod, but this is not always
the most "correct" behavior.
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On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 18:08:00 +1200, Sam Vilain wrote:
> Why would you not use .does or .isa there? Are you wanting this
> to go through all of the Class/Role's methods and check that the
> $object.can() them?
Because if you don't control $object's class you can
r; # claim that you can do it, and if possible also
# get compile time verification
}
without affecting our hard earned renewed purity of .isa and .does
(due to roles in Perl 6).
Comments?
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On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 19:54:53 +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote:
> if eval "command" fails, where can I get the error message ?
>
> aka $@ in P5 ?
$!
http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S04.html#Exception_handlers
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$ENV{TEST_POD} is off. They add kwalitee, but they usually fail
making this even more of a contest when size doesn't matter ;-)
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On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 19:03:28 -0700, chromatic wrote:
> Two invisible things look completely different to you?
If dots looked like this:
then they would be invisible.
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Descrip
; >
> > Any ideas?
>
> Forward that message (with full headers) to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> who will then apply the LART.
>
> As I figure I'm about to get one, I'll (also) forward mine.
Just got one...
By LARTing you mean forcibly unsubscribing? because the message was
se
$ba. .bar;
$x. .bar;
$foo.bar;
$ba.:bar;
$x. :bar;
Frankly I don't think there's *that* much of a difference - each has
pros and cons.
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Oops, bad patch.
I added lib/Test/Memory/Cycle.pm as a symlink so that I don't have
to 'make' each time to run the tests.
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nally feel that this be a bit
louder, but whatever Lincoln feels is best is his own choice.
Anyway, have fun.
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--- Devel
s.
Just for grep or for any function?
If just grep that means that grep simply doesn't use want.
If it's any function, then it means that all are constants are
"list" or "whatever", and all we really have are coercers.
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scalar values without having to think (== good for when you are
evaluating a fucntion ref and you don't know what it is, but you
want the "natural" value to be returned).
b. writing eval bots and interactive shells:
(whatever eval $expr).perl;
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e garbage collector?
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On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 02:04:07 +0300, Larry Wall wrote:
^^^-- (actually that was IDT in the headers)
> Hi,
> I'm in Israel and Japan at the same time!
Nice one though ;-)
If you guys would have participated in the keysigning
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On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 14:54:05 -0600, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
> Make me believe your 90/10 numbers.
http://cpansearch.bulknews.net/ is broken right now... =(
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On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 14:35:52 -0600, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 05:26:48PM +0200, Yuval Kogman wrote:
> How did $x become 10?!?!? :-)
GHC has this lovely error: "my brain just exploded"
I think Perl 6 should have a similar runtime warning about ho
consolidated (the example is
actually a bit overly verbose - it could have just been
Test::TAP::HTMLMatrix->new( $model_ok, $modeL_failing )).
The resulting HTML file displays the two test runs together, with
their differences highlighted and expanded.
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# $x is 5 again
and otherwise pretty much DWIMs, except from a historical
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On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 08:14:03 -0800, Larry Wall wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 02:27:07PM +0200, Yuval Kogman wrote:
>
> How else would you implement it that doesn't impact performance?
> One of the main reasons for having exceptions is that they're exceptional,
>
entries have a catch block.
The other thing is to be able to trace an exception: if we have 'die
"foo" but traced' then the exception should print "cought at
rethrowed" as it's doing that.
This second thing is much harder for me to pretend to implement
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The *really* bad thing is that i didn't even get a
"Can't locate ok.pm in @INC"
in the output, only that some tests failed, and no further output.
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27;s still pretty brutal ;-)
Conclusions:
I would have been happier if I could have a nice hook interface with
which i could trap both module includes, and all IO operations and
insert my own magic into the mess to aid me in my *DEVELOPMENT*
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s and core modules can be revisited and maybe better
designed.
Please reply to this thread with your tales of glory (or failures,
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> Luke
Luke! You're back from the dead!
*dance*
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On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 21:42:59 +0200, Yuval Kogman wrote:
> You can probably have a shell account on feather.perl6.nl (Juerd
> needs your full name and I don't know if this can be done by proxy
> or not), and definately on my machine, where you can use
> screen/irssi to your he
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:00:42 +0530, Premshree Pillai wrote:
> On 3/13/06, Yuval Kogman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > #perl6 on freenode might be a better choice - much more people are
> > active.
>
> I know. I am currently at a friend's place, and seems like
like 'start_tag', etc.
Some more "fun" XML modules exist on on the CPAN, which provide more
"treeish" APIs than event parser APIs.
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not
signature tests are useless (i think they are, but then again i also
think i have some modules with Test::Distribution that checks
that... so I am a hypocrit ;-) the usability of these tests will be
good enough.
(I'm CCing audrey so that she'll know I'm dissing her module ;-)
-
nd Test::TAP::Model that
> should make it easier to gather more information.
Shlomi Fish wrote Test::Run, a Test::Harness fork and was
considering improving Test::TAP::Model as well... It might be
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> just uses a string, which is a file system path. But I think that specifying
> an op for just one address format is too narrow.
Objects that stringify! Objects that stringify!
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ut that hasn't been tested) and MySQL 4.x.
Could you please please please pretty please with a cherry on top
add SQLite support?
Another, much more pretentious request is that you refactor anything
and everything you can into generic modules and put them on the
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documentation of a language, if you will.
Pugs has example code, some quick start guides, and a few other nice
things in it's repository, which are not pugs specific in any way.
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n is humanly possible for one person. I'll use the
> discussion to write up a more complete PDD (probably with a few alternatives
> written in),
> and then work with Chip to review/revise it.
>
> Thanks,
> Allison
>
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just hopefully not bite
> people
> too often? Should doing what this is trying to do be possible in a
> different, longer-huffmanized way?
I think separate compilation is more consistent - it allows much
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eated in the compiler's runtime this is
slightly consistent ;-)
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On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 12:37:05 -0800, chromatic wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 February 2006 23:55, Yuval Kogman wrote:
>
> > Does this imply that we should think up this process?
>
> Go ahead.
We'll start at the Israel hackathon, with a little preamble.
> The last time so
wards trying to
answer these questions.
Thanks
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the big void
in the middle - the design of the perl 6 runtime, not just
syntax/features.
What I'm suggesting is a start in this clarification - trying to
componentize the existing syntax/feature spec that we do have, so
tha the design of the runtime can be simplified and more
concrete/attai
meta model's methods and features, for example. The doc
explaining macros does not detail what the AST macros get (the
definition of the AST). Etc etc etc. These things are also important
to implementation, and amount to a huge chunk of code. If we can
layer this code, chunk it up, compon
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 08:59:35 +0800, Audrey Tang wrote:
> On 2/8/06, Yuval Kogman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If Audrey is willing, I think a correct new direction for pugs is to
> > try and separate the parts even more - the prelude is a mess right
> > now, many
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 14:02:54 -0800, chromatic wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 February 2006 13:28, Yuval Kogman wrote:
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> > Right now the biggest problem in Perl 6 land is project management.
>
> I disagree, but even if it were true, I don't think the solution is to add
&g
6's design, which I think is also important.
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e burn out. People
have to do things more related to day jobs (that's why my pugs
hacking is on hold, for example), people think things half way, etc.
If we have a layered approach we can concentrate on providing
something that is more balanced
... Phew.
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m IPC::Run3 to IPC::Run is quite
easy. If you sever do need weird callbacks, several processes at a
time, or PTY support it should be an easy switch. However, for the
mean while IPC::Run3 is probably just what you need.
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choice?
I think it's a very good choice.
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for other interfaces.
This also reminds me a bit of attribute grammars - i'd like to be
able to automatically derive node roles inside AGs by just
specifying a generic universal behavior, and behavior for the
leaves.
Err, comments please =)
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On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 20:29:43 +, Herbert Snorrason wrote:
> On 29/01/06, Yuval Kogman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Basically the plan is that when an internal AST language is decided
> > upon, the macros will be able to get either the source code text, or
> >
anguage (maybe it'll be PIL based) is not yet final, so
there's not much to say.
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as a function could simply import $module into the non
lexical scope because it's a runtime thing, unless it's made into a
macro/some other compile time construct, that is more declarative
in nature, and makes the whole process more opaque.
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ecursion, exclusion
> and so forth.
Since perl 5's actual parser and tokenizer will be used for this it
won't be very extensible, but this is important because perl is
reallly hard to parse.
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this security stuff.
This is a very good start towards a model where a crippled runtime
is mixed with a fully priviliged one, with grey areas in the middle.
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