Re: 6PAN (was: Half measures all round)

2002-06-05 Thread Steve Simmons
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:15:02PM -0400, John Siracusa wrote in response to me: > > Frankly, I'd argue that nothing in 6PAN ought to be in alpha/beta state. > . . . > Nah, I think it's useful to be able to upload "unstable" versions to 6PAN to > get the widest possible audience of testers. It'

Re: 6PAN (was: Half measures all round)

2002-06-05 Thread Steve Simmons
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 01:11:58PM -0700, David Wheeler wrote: > On 6/4/02 12:59 PM, "Steve Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> claimed: > > > Actually, for 6PAN I think they should have to pass. And maybe we > > need a bug submission setup, and status checks, a

Re: 6PAN (was: Half measures all round)

2002-06-04 Thread Steve Simmons
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 12:59:38PM -0400, John Siracusa wrote: > In the spirit of Simon's desire to see "radical changes" when appropriate, I > propose the following high-level goals for 6PAN . . . > 1. Multiple versions of the same module may be installed on a single system > with no possibilit

Re: Half measures all round

2002-06-04 Thread Steve Simmons
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 05:40:08PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: > Steve Simmons: > > We have said that perl5 will be *mostly* mechanically translatable into > > perl6. > And we shall keep saying this until we believe that it is true? *grin* My apologies for using the wrong

Re: Half measures all round

2002-06-04 Thread Steve Simmons
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:13:36PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: Hmm, June 4. Independence day, with an off by 1 error. Must be a C program involved somewhere. :-) In brief, I'm with Damien on this one. IMHO C++ is an ugly bastard of a programming language because they cut the cord ineffective

Re: Another regex question

2002-01-13 Thread Steve Simmons
On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 12:55:26AM -0800, Brent Dax wrote: > > It's meant to be a simple fallback for languages that are too pathetic > to implement their own regex compiler. ("FooLang should have regular > expressions, but I'm too lazy! I'll just use rx_compile!") Currently > I'm thinking of

Re: RFC 289 (v1) Generate module dependencies easily

2001-08-31 Thread Steve Simmons
> Perl6 should ship with a simple utility that shows all modules a program > uses, and all modules those modules use. Presumably with the caveat that no usage list can be generated for any missing modules.

Re: RFC on Coexistance and simulaneous use of multiple module version s?

2001-02-15 Thread Steve Simmons
Many thanks to all for the pointers. Paul Johnson wrote: > I don't think any proposal of this nature would be conplete without a > consideration of these aspects. Agreed.

Re: RFC on Coexistance and simulaneous use of multiple module version s?

2001-02-15 Thread Steve Simmons
Paul Johnson wrote: > Has anyone considered the problems associated with XS code, or whatever > its replacement is? Pardon my ignorance, but what's XS code?

Re: RFC on Coexistance and simulaneous use of multiple module version s?

2001-02-14 Thread Steve Simmons
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 02:08:01PM -0600, Garrett Goebel wrote: > Discussion of RFC 271 and 194 on pre and post handlers for subroutines > reminded me of Larry's desire for Perl 6 to support the coexistence of > different versions of modules. > > Besides http://dev.perl.org/rfc/78.pod, are there

Re: Multiple for loop variables

2000-08-29 Thread Steve Simmons
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 04:10:01PM -0400, Eric Roode wrote: > Peter Scott wrote: > >Graham Barr once allowed as how he thought it would be neat if you could say > > > > for my($x, $y, $z) (@list) { ... } I too am pushing for this feature, to the point where I'm considering an rfc on the topic

Re: RFC 120 (v2) Implicit counter in for statements, possibly $#.

2000-08-29 Thread Steve Simmons
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 09:15:35AM +0100, John McNamara wrote: > At 13:11 28/08/00 -0400, Steve Simmons wrote: > >To tell the truth, this third item should probably should become > >a separate RFC, and if you'd like to simply say one is forthcoming, > >that'd be

HERE construct

2000-08-28 Thread Steve Simmons
General comment on all the discussion of HERE docs. When HERE docs cause you a problem, don't use 'em. There is little win if any over print << HERE; Dear Sir: You owe me bucks. Pay up. Me. HERE and $msg = 'Dear Sir: You owe

Re: RFC 143 (v1) Case ignoring eq and cmp operators

2000-08-28 Thread Steve Simmons
On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 03:40:00PM -, Perl6 RFC Librarian wrote: > This and other RFCs are available on the web at > http://dev.perl.org/rfc/ > > =head1 TITLE > > Case ignoring eq and cmp operators IMHO this problem is better solved by using =~ and its brethren, which already allow you to

Re: Do we really need eq?

2000-08-28 Thread Steve Simmons
I'd like to see eq and it's brethen retained, as dammit there are times I want to know (-w) if numbers are turning up when there should be words and vice-versa. However, spinning off of something Randal wrote: > Yes, but what about: > > $a = '3.14'; # from reading a file > $b =

Re: RFC 120 (v2) Implicit counter in for statements, possibly $#.

2000-08-28 Thread Steve Simmons
On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 08:46:53PM -, Perl6 RFC Librarian wrote: > This and other RFCs are available on the web at > http://dev.perl.org/rfc/ > > =head1 TITLE > > Implicit counter in for statements, possibly $#. Having read over the entire discussion, I want to make a few comments and thr

Re: RFC 114 (v1) Perl resource configuration

2000-08-16 Thread Steve Simmons
On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 08:03:31PM -, Perl6 RFC Librarian wrote: > Perl should provide a mechanism to have common code autoloaded from a > file. . . . > A C file could be used to set system-wide defaults that > the system administrator would like to promote. For instance, > C could turn on

Re: Permanent sublists (was Re: Language WG report, August 16th 2000)

2000-08-16 Thread Steve Simmons
On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 02:38:33PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: > i see problems with overlapping areas. I/O callbacks fall under both io > and flow IMO. some of the error handling like dying deep in eval and > $SIG{DIE} also fall under error and flow. This is true, and inevitable. But IMHO it'd b

Re: "Try? There is no try." -- Yoda's Exception handling syntax

2000-08-16 Thread Steve Simmons
This discussion would be a better fit in [EMAIL PROTECTED]

A message from the moderator

2000-08-16 Thread Steve Simmons
My philosophy - do nothing unless its needed. Therefore there are no rules, and I'll attempt to avoid creating any. I remain subscribed to language-flow, and will redirect appropriate discussion to here. Our deadline - August 29. It's actually a little tighter than that, because on the morning

Unify the Exception and Error Message RFCs?

2000-08-15 Thread Steve Simmons
On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 07:35:06PM -0700, Peter Scott wrote: > At 03:30 PM 8/13/00 -0500, David L. Nicol wrote: > >Whose RFC deals with this? > 63, 70, 80, 88 and 96. There would appear to be a groundswell of interest :-) Well yes, but they represent three authors with (as best I can tell) pr