Re: Fwd: FOSDEM - perl 6 critic

2011-02-24 Thread Steffen Schwigon
ely small >> language. > > Whatever Perl 6 will turn out to be, it won't be a small language. And just to complement the many answers: There *are* small variants of Perl6: Perlito and NQP. Kind regards, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: benchmarking against other languages

2011-02-14 Thread Steffen Schwigon
to hear comments and ideas to apply them to my Perl5 benchmarking. Kind regards, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-06 Thread Steffen Schwigon
work. The language has everything I need, I just can't hack all the things I regularly use from CPAN. Kind regards, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-06 Thread Steffen Schwigon
ormal” software, spilled over to formerly “untestable” software like Web applications and is even getting momentum on other difficult areas like Operating Systems. So I think the test suite is a strong Pro matching the zeitgeist. Kind regards, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon Dresden Perl Mongers

Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-06 Thread Steffen Schwigon
istory of > mankind. If this was a real world project it would have been dead > sometime ago. Don't worry too much. Python 3000 took about 8 years. (Though not sure about betas for testing.) Kind regards, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: Perl6 Modules - Documentation

2010-07-30 Thread Steffen Schwigon
n doing that. Kind regards, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: Perl 6 IDEs

2009-12-07 Thread Steffen Schwigon
st wanted to mention it. Find it in the Pugs repository. Kind regards, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon

Re: rakudo-current loop 2-3 orders of magnitude slower than perl 5?

2009-06-05 Thread Steffen Schwigon
Parrot Raiser <1parr...@gmail.com> writes: > If Sun's propaganda about Dtrace : > http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/dtrace/ is anywhere near true Which I can confirm. DTrace *is* cool. Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/> Deutsc

Re: rakudo-current loop 2-3 orders of magnitude slower than perl 5?

2009-06-05 Thread Steffen Schwigon
eciated. Kind regards, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/> Deutscher Perl-Workshop <http://www.perl-workshop.de/>

Re: Rakduo Logo Proposal

2009-03-21 Thread Steffen Schwigon
Hi! Why not taking a camel with 6 humps? Just joking, could not resist. :-) Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/> Deutscher Perl-Workshop <http://www.perl-workshop.de/>

Re: Project Idea: Perl 6 Syntax Explainer

2007-07-10 Thread Steffen Schwigon
and collect all the operators and descriptions from the synopses into one common place? If we had such a collection we would then format it in a second step into a structured collection and the third step is a frontend to that, the easiest part, IMHO. Step 1 is the real challenge, isn't it? S

.perl, nested arrays, parens and a bug with .perl after hyperop

2007-05-20 Thread Steffen Schwigon
g the output contains the problem from question 1. 3. Which test file is the real one: pugs/t/builtins/perl.t or pugs/t/builtins/perl2.t ? They are similar but not identical. (Greeti+Tha)nX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <http://renormalist.net> Dresden Perl Mongers &

Re: 99 problems in Perl6: 32 and a question on number coercion

2007-01-03 Thread Steffen Schwigon
gabriele renzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Steffen Schwigon ha scritto: >> I looked at [1]. What's the purpose of "multi" in this case? >> (Maybe you wanted to write it as more than one subs, did you?) > > look the comment: > > # Yet, it should be

Re: 99 problems in Perl6: 32 and a question on number coercion

2007-01-03 Thread Steffen Schwigon
ccepted but worked similar to typeless code in Perl5. I'm not sure about the current state. Anyway, in your example I hadn't expected a value coercion (from 10.1 to 10), but something like an error if the type doesn't match. But I can't find the right place in the synopses to ver

Re: Embedded perl5 modules

2006-10-24 Thread Steffen Schwigon
oesn't really work but at least it gets you a step further. Try it and maybe you have the next idea as you maybe know Wx better than I do. Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/> Deutscher Perl-Workshop <http://www.perl-workshop.de/>

Re: Embedded perl5 modules

2006-10-23 Thread Steffen Schwigon
s. I'm just not sure where it belongs. Maybe near t/perl5/import.t --> go for it, if you dare. :-) Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: Embedded perl5 modules

2006-10-20 Thread Steffen Schwigon
subroutine found: "&Wx::SimpleApp" >at wxtest.p6 line 2, column 1-28 > > Is the perl6 wrong? > > I have also tested > use perl5:Wx ; Maybe an additional use perl5:Wx::SimpleApp; ? I'm just guessing... Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: Web development II: Code

2006-09-21 Thread Steffen Schwigon
our Dresden Perl Mongers server. Just ask me, now or in future. Might be good, for instance, if the projects feel too early or experimental to be hosted on major Perl/Pugs/Feather/Sourceforge resources. GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <http://renormalist.net> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: Trying to make a new operator

2006-09-20 Thread Steffen Schwigon
ys: http://www.perl.org/yapc/2002/movies/themovie/ GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: the CGI.pm in Perl 6

2006-09-12 Thread Steffen Schwigon
nd the word "CGI". Because of the word. Not the api. IMHO. Of course. :-) GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: cperl-mode.el: twigils and opers

2006-09-06 Thread Steffen Schwigon
Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I checked and indeed the twigils don't work. My test source file > (which worked correctly some time ago) also highlights wrong. It's for > sure a bug I introduced. I now did some things on cperl-mode (eg. syncing with ori

Re: cperl-mode.el: twigils and opers

2006-09-05 Thread Steffen Schwigon
Trey Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In a message dated Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Steffen Schwigon writes: >> First you could try an older revision, I recommend r7845 or r10822 of >> pugs repository. > > No, neither of those work. To see what I'm talking about,

Re: cperl-mode.el: twigils and opers

2006-09-04 Thread Steffen Schwigon
n't know about. But it's a very big "maybe". Having one mode for all perl versions and for both major Emacs variants with high backwards compatibility is a big plus and there is much knowledge in original cperl-mode that progresses itself, even as we speak. Currently I wouldn

Re: Help getting pugs working?

2006-08-30 Thread Steffen Schwigon
odEnglish#Haskell to get a general idea of the easiness, although it's not RedHat-driven. GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: Stubborn coworkers

2006-08-30 Thread Steffen Schwigon
compare Perl6 with Perl5, not Perl6 with AnyOtherLanguage, because that's just the same old discussion since Perl's birthday. Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: a practical question

2006-08-23 Thread Steffen Schwigon
list too and I will help you with experimenting, but I'm currently, erm, well, occupied with @otherstuff ("the same excuse as every year"). If you start experimenting and writing down something, expect me to follow you. If we know and document something in an easy understandable

RFF: test Emacs Perl6 mode

2006-07-03 Thread Steffen Schwigon
so if anyone wants to help with this little project, feel free to contact me. Or just hack away on it from inside Pugs. GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: Mutil Method Questions

2006-06-26 Thread Steffen Schwigon
now. After we rotate back to the world, we're gonna miss not having any principle around that's worth stealing." GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: Mutil Method Questions

2006-06-26 Thread Steffen Schwigon
Thomas Wittek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Steffen Schwigon schrieb: >> At least the many keywords seem to be necessary to map the complexity >> of different paradigms possible in Perl6. Multimethods are not just >> overloading as in C++. Second, the different ke

Re: Mutil Method Questions

2006-06-23 Thread Steffen Schwigon
Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > multi sub talk () { say 'Loose Talk Is Noose Talk.'; } > multi sub talk (String $msg) { say $msg; } > multi sub talk (String $msg, Int $times) { say $msg x $times; } BTW, because we are just on-topic, can someone explai

Re: Mutil Method Questions

2006-06-23 Thread Steffen Schwigon
of ugly "parameter checking if-cascades". multi sub talk () { say 'Loose Talk Is Noose Talk.'; } multi sub talk (String $msg) { say $msg; } multi sub talk (String $msg, Int $times) { say $msg x $times; } talk("Hi", 10); talk("Hello"); talk; GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-06-06 Thread Steffen Schwigon
Ask Bjørn Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Woah, we are getting really far away from talking about perl6 > here... Kind of a usenet law or corollary? "Every discussion about wikis ends in a discussion about the best wiki syntax." Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL

Re: Fwd: 3 Good Reasons...

2006-05-29 Thread Steffen Schwigon
guage experts as the number of different languages you use. I think it's about making programming more borderless, making the use of libraries similar to todays typical use of whole programs, independently of the language it's written in. GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: 3 Good Reasons...

2006-05-25 Thread Steffen Schwigon
s your problem because it's already built into the problem, just use it. Perl5 is already gluey enough to not force you into a decicion for *the only one* technology. Perl6 shouldn't change that. Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: Simple Print/Say Question

2006-05-24 Thread Steffen Schwigon
"A. Pagaltzis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-24 13:55]: >> "A. Pagaltzis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > * Martin Kjeldsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-24 12:25]: >> >> I und

Re: Simple Print/Say Question

2006-05-24 Thread Steffen Schwigon
tly assign the result back via "%hash{$_} = ..." or similar. AFAIR. GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: Getting to hello world?

2006-05-22 Thread Steffen Schwigon
if they are worth it. GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: Where can I find a Perl 6 langauge reference?

2006-05-19 Thread Steffen Schwigon
gi-bin/twiki/view/PM/PugsFirstBlood GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: [OT] TDD + Pair Programming

2006-04-03 Thread Steffen Schwigon
g code, so the healthy effects of Pair programming should also be exploited for them. So feel free to combine TDD with Pair Programming, but don't divide the pair. Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Re: Test Script Best-Practices

2006-01-27 Thread Steffen Schwigon
have to call ./Build before "prove", which can be annoying and/or difficult to remember. Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Foreign modules in test scripts?

2005-02-19 Thread Steffen Schwigon
s a "build_requires" option in Build.PL, but does the CPAN(PLUS).pm know about that option and really only download and use those "build_requires" temporarily during module build/test or does it fully install them? Thanks, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>