Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-11 Thread Jonathan T. Rockway
Ian Langworth wrote: I mentioned YAML with a pretense I failed to mention -- that we wouldn't parse the YAML. That's already been done, and there are plenty of parsers. I agree with this. YAML has been done and done again, in every language. It works, it's tested. I don't think we need E

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Jonathan T. Rockway
I agree that "got" is generally a good word to avoid in formal writing, but in a testing protocol I think that it's an acceptable abbreviation for "the actual result". Especially since "received" doesn't quite convey the right meaning here. Maybe "expected data" and "actual data" (or "expecte

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Jonathan T. Rockway
not ok 2 - omg t3h sooper test!!1! --- TAP diagnostics file:foo.t Why aren't we commenting the YAML block so that it's compatible with current TAP parsers? I'm thinking something like this: not ok 2 - ensure that foo is equal to bar # --- !!tap/diagnostics # file: foo.t # line: 4

Re: Licenses, alligators

2006-07-07 Thread Jonathan T. Rockway
Great, now the mailing list archives have to be licenced under the GFDL :-) Ian Langworth wrote: When the last giant thread happened, I felt guilty for not contributing. To absolve myself of any future guilt due to the lack of a contribution to recent conversations, here's some useful informati

Re: Module Signatures

2006-07-06 Thread Jonathan T. Rockway
Sorry, meant to send this to the list. :) What’s the point? Good question. Crypt::OpenPGP doesn't maintain a web-of-trust either. People that have webs of trust have GPG, otherwise, what are they using? If all that’s verified is that the distribution was signed with the key uploaded to

Re: Volunteer wanted: We need a new wiki.

2006-07-05 Thread Jonathan T. Rockway
I'd prefer MediaWiki (that which Wikipedia uses). I'm working on making Socialtext open source right now. I plan to put up a wiki based on it very soon. This sounds like the best idea. The thing about using MediaWiki is that it's not written in Perl. Not that PHP is bad (ok, yes it is

Re: Proposal Suggestion - Test::Run

2006-07-05 Thread Jonathan T. Rockway
Two comments, pretty much agreeing with chromatic and Ricardo: 1) How would this proposed module benefit the perl community? Why can't you fix things in Test::Harness and send the patch in? If you fix deployed modules, everyone wins. If you write your own module, it sits on CPAN unused.

Re: TAP Grammar

2006-07-03 Thread Jonathan T. Rockway
I would say that even if nobody else is interested, if you're interested, do it :) That said, I would be interested. I'm still trying to page all the perl6/parrot grammars (PGE, TGE, etc.) into my brain, so any additional examples would helpful, interesting, and fun. For me, anyway :) Rega