Re: who own my code?

2017-10-22 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Brandon Allbery wrote: > This is still best discussed elsewhere... isn't there a stackexchange for > this kind of stuff? Ah, Stack Exchange, the quality site where the _first_ answer is the most significant. Anything else is better than asking people to go there

Re: Is win 32 being worked on?

2017-07-21 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Todd Chester wrote: > > > On 07/21/2017 01:07 AM, Mark Carter wrote: >> >> I noticed that there is no Windows 32-bit version of rakudo, and it won't >> even compile on cygwin. >> >> Are there plans for fixing this? > > > > Hi Mark, > > I may be wrong, but I do bel

Re: Any text editors for programming that support the secondary selection clipboard?

2017-06-21 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
Hah, I see that my original response only went to ToddAndMargo, how dull-witted I must have been. On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:13 PM, The Sidhekin wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Luca Ferrari wrote: >> >> > I like Geany, but it does not support the "Secondary Selection" >> > clipboard.

Re: Perl 6 ignores SIGPIPE

2017-06-16 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: > > > Failed to write bytes to filehandle: Broken pipe > in block at -e line 1 > > So it would appear this got fixed by the synchronous IO refactor, and will > be available in the 2017.06 release, which is scheduled for tomorrow. > >

Re: perl 5?

2016-11-16 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 8:08 AM, ToddAndMargo wrote: > Hi All, > > Would you guys tolerate a perl 5 question every so often? > > Perl 5 questions that relate to Perl 6 would probably be on topic. If what you want is help with Perl 5 for Perl 5's sake, though, I humbly suggest that using one of t

Re: A practical benchmark shows speed challenges for Perl 6

2016-04-01 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: > Sorry if I wasn’t clear: If there is no dynamic var, it will make one: > either from the environment, or set it to 64K (like it was before). So no > programmer action is ever needed if they’re not interested in that type of > optimizat

Re: A practical benchmark shows speed challenges for Perl 6

2016-04-01 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: > > The reasoning behind _not_ setting things via environment variables, is > that this means the programmer now needs to worry what e.g. the webserver > running the Perl program does, and there are unknown stability (and > possibly sec

Re: A practical benchmark shows speed challenges for Perl 6

2016-03-31 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: > > > Thanks for your thoughts! > > I’ve implemented $*DEFAULT-READ-ELEMS in > https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/5bd1e . > > Of course, all of this is provisional, and open for debate and > bikeshedding. > > Brilliant and brilliantl

Re: What are Perl 6's killer advantages over Perl 5?

2015-09-03 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 3:51 AM, Robert Strahl via perl6-users < perl6-us...@perl.org> wrote: > I don't understand why some people feel so strongly that one-liners should > be strict. That would undermine what a one-liner is — a quick way to get > something done. I use perl5 one-liners very frequen

Re: Language design

2015-07-13 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Michael Zedeler wrote: > > So far, almost every other language has behaved this way, and it has > worked. I can see that Rats do solve a problem, but if you'd claim that it > is very severe then I'd disagree. This is a minor nuisance that I'd only > pay a small pr

Re: Licensing: Perl 6 specification and test suite

2013-11-05 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Moritz Lenz wrote: > I have no idea if the AL2 is well suited for sets of documents, as the > specification is. I'll leave that decision to Larry. > To anyone in doubt: please note that I'm not Larry, I'm not an authority, I'm just opinionated. :) Considering tha

Re: Licensing: Perl 6 specification and test suite

2013-11-05 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Kalinni Gorzkis wrote: > Can I distribute and modify the Perl 6 specification documents and test > suite under which conditions? If not, I propose that they should be > distributed under the Artistic License 2.0. > That is an excellent question. I've checked the g

Re: Underscores v Hyphens (Was: [perl6/specs] a7cfe0: [S32] backtraces overhaul)

2011-08-24 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:19, Smylers wrote: > > > Could we have underscores and hyphens mean the same thing? That is, Perl > 6 always interprets illo-figut and illo_figut as being the same > identifier (both for its own identifiers and those minted in programs), > with programmers able to use ei

Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-05 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 17:30, Guy Hulbert wrote: > Rakudo is not listed here: > http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/ > Fixing that is something I'd like to help with. > > Note that go was listed *before* it was announced. That tells me that > the go authors are, in some small way, more serious abo

Re: Can't download Rakudo Dec 2010 without git

2011-01-04 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 09:30, Daniel Carrera wrote: > That's rather annoying. Isn't there a way to fix that? > Yes, install Rakudo Star instead, that bundles a suitable version of Parrot. -- Jan

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 19:02, Guy Hulbert wrote: > Many people seem to be proposing questions which ask people's opinions > of things which are factual and can be answered readily by reading the > documentation. > > For example, your question can be partly answered by looking at the > rakudo down

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 18:33, Guy Hulbert wrote: > On Sun, 2011-02-01 at 18:25 +0100, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: > > At least have the decency to change the e-mail subject when the > > discussion's > > subject has changed! > > IMO, the subject changed at the second p

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 18:05, Guy Hulbert wrote: > On Sun, 2011-02-01 at 10:27 -0600, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > > - What was the first production release of Linux? > > - At what point was each of the above declared a "production > > release"; > > was it concurrent with the release, or s

Re: [perl6/specs] 761178: remove some some duplicate words words

2010-09-08 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 07:41, Jason Switzer wrote: > > I'm surprised anyone actually ever read the diff part of the message. I > would prefer to never see that feature again. This has a link to the > commit, > which has a much better diff viewer than plaintext email (hello? 1997 > called, they wa

Re: rakudo star performance

2010-08-01 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 23:31, Ben Bowers wrote: > I've compiled and run rakudo star on a couple of pieces of code that i > wrote. > One generates random strings with pick. the other builds a couple of > hashes and checks to find commonality between them. > Compared with Rakudo Moscow (April rel

Re: Perl6 Modules - Documentation

2010-07-30 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:27, Steffen Schwigon wrote: > Just an opinion: imho every effort should go towards integrating CPAN > in any way. > > Perl without CPAN feels like Kung-Fu on stack-heel shoe. > > Maybe any of those META2.0, cpanminus, CPAN::Packager, > CPAN::Dpendency, MyCPAN::*, POD6 t

Re: [perl #76626] [PATCH] Generate plaintext README from README.pod

2010-07-28 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 19:09, Will Coleda wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Patrick R. Michaud > wrote: > > > I said a bit more about it as well: I think we should just eliminate > > the pod from the README file altogether, and leave it as plain text. > Ah, well, since that was what

Re: [perl #76626] [PATCH] Generate plaintext README from README.pod

2010-07-26 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:29:42 -0700, "Moritz Lenz via RT" said: > Thank you for your patch. > I know I promised to apply it, but pmichaud++, our pumpking, spoke out > against it, indicating that having now file named README in a newly > checked out repository was not desirable. So with regret I h

Radix (base) conversion

2010-07-23 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
Hi. I was fiddling about with a small example of how nice radix adverbials are for conversion: my $x = 6*9; say :13($x); rakudo: 69 ($x = 54 in base 10, but 54 in base 13 is 69 in base 10.) Strangely enough, I cannot find a way — in the spec — of both treating a number as something in base 13

Re: very basic type checking

2010-06-24 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 20:21, Darren Duncan wrote: > If all invocations of myop use a code literal for the $y argument, then > this can be checked at compile time, but if the argument is a variable, they > have to look further out. > > Yup. For those who don't quite see what this leads to, consi

Re: Something wrong with str.reverse

2010-06-21 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:47, Smylers wrote: > Larry Wall writes: > > > On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:21:52AM +0200, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: > > > > : On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:15, Smylers wrote: > > : > > : > For the benefit of Perl 5 programmers used to

Re: Something wrong with str.reverse

2010-06-18 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:15, Smylers wrote: > > For the benefit of Perl 5 programmers used to string reverse it would be > nice to have a warning if reverse is invoked with exactly one string > argument (but not with an array which happens to contain a string as its > only element). > Perhaps

Re: Proposal for a new Temporal time-measurement paradigm

2010-04-24 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 02:31, Doug McNutt wrote: > Agree on a format for storing fractional atomic seconds. There are > proposals for two word integers with one of them being micro or nano seconds > and the other seconds. I prefer IEEE floating point with atomic seconds as > the unit of measure

Re: Proposal for a new Temporal time-measurement paradigm

2010-04-24 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 00:46, Darren Duncan wrote: > All details specific to any calendar, including Gregorian, including > concepts like seconds or hours or days, should be left out of the core and > be provided by separate modules. Said modules can be self-contained, just > say using Perl's or

Re: Gripes about Pod6 (S26)

2010-02-12 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 14:57, Carl Mäsak wrote: > Again, thanks for your efforts so far. The discussions over the years > have shown at least me what an ungrateful task it is to be redesigning > Pod for Perl 6. > Yep, thanks, Damian! Fortunately, doing _whatever_ for Perl 6 seems to be mostly

Re: One-pass parsing and forward type references

2010-02-01 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 17:46, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > There's a third way: > >class B { ... }# introduce B as a class name without definition > class A { sub foo { B::bar } } > >class B { sub bar { A::foo } } > > The first line is a literal "..." in the body of the class -- it

Re: String to Regex

2010-01-04 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Moritz Lenz wrote: > > But since $input can contain closures, arbitrary code can be executed. > I'd like to propose a way to compile a string to a regex which doesn't > allow code execution. > So would I. I would also like it to be the default behaviour, since th

Re: r28523 - docs/Perl6/Spec/S32-setting-library

2009-10-01 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Minimiscience wrote: > On Oct 1, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Moritz Lenz wrote: >> >>> What's the 0th root of a number, then? >>> It would be a number $y for which $y **

Re: r28523 - docs/Perl6/Spec/S32-setting-library

2009-10-01 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Moritz Lenz wrote: > > > What's the 0th root of a number, then? > It would be a number $y for which $y ** 0 == $x, which can only be > fulfilled for $x == 1. So in the general cases the answer to the > question root($x, 0) is nonsense, which is best mapped to NaN.

Re: Iterate X times

2009-09-13 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Christian Sturm wrote: > Hi, > > do you know a short and easy way to iterate a block X times? > Here's one using the upto operator: for ^$X { $s *= $s; } -- Jan

Re: Custom object constructors

2009-08-20 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Kevan Benson wrote: > > > That said, I submit that it's a very confusing part of the language as > defined currently, and I haven't seen a very thorough explanation of the > purpose of each method in the chain the instantiates a new object. S12 > touches upon them

Re: [perl #64566] @a[1..*] adds trailing undef value

2009-08-19 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Moritz Lenz via RT < perl6-bugs-follo...@perl.org> wrote: > > Since the discussion came up on #perl6 if this is really the expected > behaviour, S09 says: > > As the end-point of a range, a lone "whatever" means "to the maximum > specified index" (if fixed indices

Re: $*CWD and chdir()

2009-08-18 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Mark J. Reed wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Jan Ingvoldstad > wrote: > > You think it's a bug that PWD="/etc" doesn't change your working > directory > > to /etc in bash? > > > > Please tell

Re: Filename literals

2009-08-18 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Carl Mäsak wrote: > > Let's make a solid ground to stand on; something so stable that it > works uphill and underwater. People with expertise and tuits will > write the facilitating modules. > > To quote Kernighan and Pike: Simplicity. Clarity. Generality. > I

Re: $*CWD and chdir()

2009-08-18 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:33 PM, David Green wrote: > > Huh. Thank you, I did not know that. It makes "sense" (in that I > understand what's going on now that I see it, and indeed it seems almost > obvious), but I certainly couldn't call it "expected" because I didn't. And > I can guarantee I'

Re: $*CWD and chdir()

2009-08-18 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:02 PM, David Green wrote: > On 2009-Aug-18, at 3:12 am, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: >> >> It may seem cool, but I don't like secondary effects like that. They break >> the principle of least surprise. > > It doesn't seem that surprising to

Re: r28017 - in docs/Perl6/Spec: . S32-setting-library

2009-08-18 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Troels Liebe Bentsen wrote: > My idea with portable by default was only portability for modern Unix and > modern Windows. So DOS and VMS limitations would not apply. The problem of > enforcing truly "portable" filenames is that the files names get too > restrictiv

Re: S26 - The Next Generation

2009-08-18 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:47 AM, David Green wrote: > On 2009-Aug-17, at 12:27 pm, Moritz Lenz wrote: >> >> However it seems we have to pay a price: each act of rendering a Pod >> file actually means executing the program that's being documented (at >> least the BEGIN blocks and other stuff that ha

Re: r28017 - in docs/Perl6/Spec: . S32-setting-library

2009-08-18 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:04 AM, David Green wrote: > On 2009-Aug-18, at 2:29 am, Carlin Bingham wrote: >> >> chdir provides functionality that would be quite convoluted to mimic >> through manually setting $*CWD, such as changing to a relative >> directory. > > Maybe setting $*CWD just calls chdi

Re: r28017 - in docs/Perl6/Spec: . S32-setting-library

2009-08-18 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Nicholas Clark wrote: > Oh gosh yes. I forgot. AUX.TXT > And all the the other CP/M device file names, with our without extensions... > > > [And of course, IIRC, DOS filenames can't be more than 64 characters. Which > means that your code thinks that it knows what

Re: r28017 - in docs/Perl6/Spec: . S32-setting-library

2009-08-18 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:24:08AM +0200, pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote: > >> +=head3 Default constraints >> + >> +The default p{} only allows "/" as separator and does not allow path >> elements >> +to contain >> +characters that won

Re: Filename literals

2009-08-14 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
I'll just butt in here and say that while the URI format is nice for alternate schemes, it is not nice for accessing files. The general case in most programming languages is to assume that a non-URI "file" name is local, specifying file://wherever/whatever/filename is unnecessary additional syntax