Re: Is Parrot 1.0 too late?

2007-04-25 Thread Herbert Snorrason
On 25.4.2007, at 15:06, Nicholas Clark wrote: So Parrot is the odd one out here, for relying on an external language for its extended build process. I'm not sure if this is significant. Isn't Parrot more comparable to JVM and CLI in this regard, in that it's a theoretically language-indepen

Re: Macros?

2006-01-29 Thread Herbert Snorrason
On 29/01/06, Yuval Kogman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Basically the plan is that when an internal AST language is decided > upon, the macros will be able to get either the source code text, or > an AST. Two things. First, if the AST path is taken, doesn't that mean that the AST representation has

Macros?

2006-01-29 Thread Herbert Snorrason
Perl6 will have macros. Good. Cool. But, sadly, that seems to be close to the most specific thing anyone says about the subject. There is some further discussion in Apocalypse & Exegesis 6, but nothing in the Synopsis. Now, considering that macros are a language feature and that the Synopses are p

Re: (OT) Re: Perl development server

2005-05-24 Thread Herbert Snorrason
On 24/05/05, Michele Dondi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Incidentally, would 'laukurdottir' be a proper Icelandic offence? :-) It'd be 'lauksdóttir' (due to declension) and mean 'daughter of an onion'. If nothing else, it would make people look at you in a funny way... ;) -- Schwäche zeigen heißt

Re: (OT) Re: Perl development server

2005-05-24 Thread Herbert Snorrason
Icelandic: laukur (Incidentally, none of you will ever guess how to correctly pronounce that.) -- Schwäche zeigen heißt verlieren; härte heißt regieren. - "Glas und Tränen", Megaherz

Re: Plethora of operators

2005-05-14 Thread Herbert Snorrason
On 14/05/05, Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here are a few of the things I'll be using reductions for in Perl 6... > > 1. To add things up: > > $sum = [+] @amounts; > > 2. To calculate the probability that I'll need to use a reduction today: > > $fi

Re: use less in perl6?

2005-03-30 Thread Herbert Snorrason
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:56:58 -0500, Matt Fowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:48:55 -0500, Aaron Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > use less syntax; > Back out the entire p6 grammar and put in lisp's instead... Huh. I suppose that's the only difference these days..

Re: Arglist I/O [Was: Angle quotes and pointy brackets]

2004-12-04 Thread Herbert Snorrason
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 01:37:00 -0800, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > for =$*IN {...} > for =$*ARGS {...} Yay. A generalised form of the input operator, which can create even handier idioms for simple file processing. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. My issue wasn't specifically with '.lin

Re: EcmaScript

2004-11-28 Thread Herbert Snorrason
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:49:49 -0500, Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 09:58:44PM +, Herbert Snorrason wrote: > > It should. EcmaScript is also a relatively small language, which would > > work strongly in its advantage... > >

Re: perl6-compiler

2004-10-21 Thread Herbert Snorrason
http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.compiler -- It's there. Correct, though, that it's not listed on the lists page... On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:02:23 +0200, Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > perl6-compiler is missing at http://dev.perl.org/perl6/lists/ and it > seems not to be gate

Internals, rules, and REPL.

2004-10-06 Thread Herbert Snorrason
First off, I've been mucking about in the re_tests file, doing some braindead translation. (That thing is going to need a fair bit of rethinking, I believe...) Someone please stop me if that's not needed. :) Also, although the language itself is pretty much defined by now, one would think that at

Re: S5 updated

2004-09-25 Thread Herbert Snorrason
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:46:37 -0700, Edward Peschko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You could even say that in the chinese case that if you have > > "?$B#3" --> 3 --> "3" > > that's a bug. It had *better* turn back into "?$B#3" when you do > the int to string conversion. That's a internationalizatio

Re: attributes/methods on sigils?

2004-09-21 Thread Herbert Snorrason
Now you're underusing smileys. I hope. On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:04:01 -0700, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 01:49:07PM +0200, Michele Dondi wrote: > : I fear, and with good reasons, that this may be too wild a case of an > : extremization, but I wonder wether, just l

Re: [S3, S4, S5]: =~ becomes ~~

2004-09-16 Thread Herbert Snorrason
> Okay, it ought to be there soon. I added it in the "New operators" > section, since it's pretty different from =~. That'd also be appropriate, but I didn't see an explicit mention anywhere... > Arguably the ~~ table should go in S3 instead of S4. It most likely should, since ~~ is an operator,

[S3, S4, S5]: =~ becomes ~~

2004-09-15 Thread Herbert Snorrason
I know that, you know that ... but the synopses never actually say it. It's evident from context, but it's never said explicitly. I would *think* that should be in the "Operator renaming" section of S3, and presume this is an oversight? -- Schwäche zeigen heißt verlieren; härte heißt regieren. -

Re: Current state?

2004-09-15 Thread Herbert Snorrason
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:43:08 -0700, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd suggest looking at the t/op/re_tests file from Perl 5. It's based > on the test suite that originally came with Henry Spencer's regular > expression package. It would, of course, need to be translated and > extended,

Re: S5 updated

2004-09-15 Thread Herbert Snorrason
Wh! :) Childish? Who? On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 23:22:08 -0700, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been working at updating the various synopses on dev.perl.org. > In particular, you folks might like to know that the regex synopsis at > >http://dev.perl.org/perl6/synopsis/S05.html >

Re: Current state?

2004-09-08 Thread Herbert Snorrason
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 14:18:38 -0400, JOSEPH RYAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you want to write tests, I would say the best place to start is the A5 stuff, for > two reasons: > > a.) Grammar/Regex tests would be really useful in testing the Grammar engine. > > b.) The A5 stuff is definitely th

Re: No Autoconf, dammit!

2004-09-08 Thread Herbert Snorrason
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 12:37:52 -0400, Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While "Dan is always right" has that nice ego-stroke effect, I don't > think too many people would or, really, should, stand for it. We'd be > better served with "The designer makes the final call, for better or > worse" a

Re: No Autoconf, dammit!

2004-09-08 Thread Herbert Snorrason
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 08:57:22 -0700, Gregory Keeney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rule Number One: > â No one wants the â [interrobang if your email client or font > doesn't like utf-8] > Rule Number Two:" > â Dan gets the â I was thinking more along the lines of "Dan is always right" and "Da

Re: No Autoconf, dammit!

2004-09-08 Thread Herbert Snorrason
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 17:34:50 +0200, Robert Schwebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 11:23:36AM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: > > No offense, but it *doesn't* *matter*. We're not using autoconf, as > > the subject of this thread makes clear. That's not negotiable. > > A really conv

Re: Current state?

2004-09-08 Thread Herbert Snorrason
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 07:33:45 -0600, Patrick R. Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We're in the beginning stages of building a basic perl 6 grammar engine > (i.e., probably without p6 closures) that compiles to parrot and handles > basic optimizations. Concurrent with that I'm working on a Perl 6

Current state?

2004-09-08 Thread Herbert Snorrason
Since this list has been started, I'd assume that means work on the final Perl6 compiler is about to start. (Although, with this crowd, you never do know...) In the interest of a layman's curiosity: What's the current status? (And I already wonder if this won't make the summaries even more irregu

Re: Perl 6 compilers list

2004-09-07 Thread Herbert Snorrason
So ... it's actually happening? There's really going to *be* a Perl6? It's not just an april fool's gone wrong, like Parrot? ;) On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 11:57:23 -0400, Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The list... is open. It's meant for discussion of the perl 6 compiler > specifically. Perl6-i

Re: S4: Can PRE and POST be removed from program flow?

2004-09-06 Thread Herbert Snorrason
As it stands, though, perl6-internals isn't about perl, but Parrot ... so of the two lists, language is arguably more appropriate... On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 22:37:04 -0400, Matt Diephouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I may be completely off base here, but I think this whole discussion > would be bette

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-12 Thread Herbert Snorrason
Harry Jackson wrote: If there are any shy lurkers out there please speak now or forever hold your peace. Poit. That's me.