Re: What are Perl 6's killer advantages over Perl 5?

Hi, On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 07:12:00AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: I have seen several lists of new Perl 6 features (versus Perl 5) but they all seem to be lists that intermix features with varying degrees of value to "ordinary" Perl 5 users. If one wants to sell long-time Perl 5 users (already u

Re: rakudo-current loop 2-3 orders of magnitude slower than perl 5?

Hi, I think featurewise Rakudo is now at a point where it could already be use for some serious work. Surely many things are missing, but (for me) the two most important things - good OOP support and types - are already in. And the syntax is just lovely :) (I think I have a syntax-fetish... :)

Re: RFD: Built-in testing

Hi, I pretty much like this idea. Very perl6ish :) - I don't think it's important whether it is called :ok, :OK or :test or :wellhowdidthatworkout. I assume people who will be testing their modules/code/etc. will be using more advanced modules for testing anyway. This is for testing the imple

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

[...] I was there at the workshop too. You cannot count me in into being biased against Perl 6. Only biased that it takes so long :-). I know, and there were some others (like Herbert aka lichtkind, who writes and maintains the German Perl 6 wiki pages) with the same opinions. But the ge

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

[...] Should it really? I mean: is the time right for that now? Let's ask the other way round: Is this the time for only one implementation? And who decides that it's the one based on parrot? What happens if parrot turns out to be a dead end? (very unlikely, but possible). Let's give

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

[...] To that end, I'm soliciting: (1) your suggestions for preparation, (2) your ideas for proposals, and (3) your reasons why the Perl 6 ecosystem (including Parrot and CPAN6) is one of the world's greatest and and most extremely leveraged causes (technically, economically, and social

Re: pluralization idea that keeps bugging me

Hi, Warnocked! Indeed :) I posted an idea about pluralisation could be handled in a way that would not be English-centric (Subject: interpolation contextualisation). There were no responses to the idea. Was it so bad? Did no one see it? Was it too un-perlish? Was the title too horrible? Th

Re: pluralization idea that keeps bugging me

Amir E. Aharoni wrote: On 26/01/2008, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: After a recent exchange on PerlMonks about join, I've been thinking about the problem of pluralization in interpolated strings, where we get things like: say "Received $m message{ 1==$m ?? '' !! 's' }." ... Any

Re: xx operator

A. Pagaltzis wrote: I have the following code: class MyStupidString { method repeatit(Str $string, Int $repeat) { say $string xx $repeat; my $add = $string xx $repeat; say $add; } }; my $obj = MyStupidString.new; $obj.repeatit("---",1

xx operator

Hi, I have the following code: class MyStupidString { method repeatit(Str $string, Int $repeat) { say $string xx $repeat; my $add = $string xx $repeat; say $add; } }; my $obj = MyStupidString.new; $obj.repeatit("---",10); Interestin

Re: CGI Session management (was Re: the CGI.pm in Perl 6)

Randal L. Schwartz wrote: ""A" == "A Pagaltzis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: "A> * Randal L. Schwartz [2006-09-20 19:30]: "Fagyal" == Fagyal Csongor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: yet I never needed those HTML genera

Re: CGI Session management (was Re: the CGI.pm in Perl 6)

Randal L. Schwartz wrote: "Fagyal" == Fagyal Csongor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Fagyal> As a side note I also have to add that I really dislike the Fagyal> "html-functions" CGI.pm currently has. Creating the representation is Fagyal> the task

Perl6 "style-guide"

Hi, I was wondering if there is (or there should be) a documentation on how to elegantly write Perl6 code. I am afraid that when I will be starting to write Perl6 code, it will be too much Perl5-ish, and I will end up rewriting my code in every 3 months because I hate when my code is not el

Re: CGI Session management (was Re: the CGI.pm in Perl 6)

Juerd wrote: [...] Fagyal Csongor skribis 2006-09-20 15:43 (+0200): Inefficient was probably a bad choice of word. I would rather say: I would not like to see Perl6's CGI.pm as a monster module, which has one part everyone uses, and one hundred other parts that some uses, because I

Re: CGI Session management (was Re: the CGI.pm in Perl 6)

Erm... Sorry for the bandwith usage again, but what about something like class CGI is CGI::Base does CGI::ParamParser does CGI::HTML { ... } ? To make CGI.pm kind of backward compatible, but separates the layers. (Please excuse my bad syntax/semantics.) - Fagzal

Re: CGI Session management (was Re: the CGI.pm in Perl 6)

Juerd wrote: Fagyal Csongor skribis 2006-09-20 11:28 (+0200): You rarely do real HTTP handling when you use CGI. You may not, but many people do a lot of these things. Actually me, too. Not with CGI.pm, though. I tend to use CGI::Simple for form/param parsing, Template.pm for

Re: CGI Session management (was Re: the CGI.pm in Perl 6)

Thomas Wittek wrote: [...] But I think that it would be a good idea to create a clean, "servlety" foundation, upon which you still can implement a 200 lines CGI.pm/Web.pm/foo.pm that covers the most common web-request tasks. That sounds nice. - Cs.

Re: CGI Session management (was Re: the CGI.pm in Perl 6)

Ian Langworth wrote: It sounds like the name of HTTP is more appropriate: HTTP::Request ...uri, pathinfo, params, method, headers, etc. HTTP::Request::Session ...adds to HTTP::Request to provide session() method HTTP::Response ...response code, content, headers, etc. H

Re: the CGI.pm in Perl 6

> Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >> The thing that CGI.pm does is put in one place everything you need for >> a simple web form. And there's an amazing number of applications for >> this... putting a "contact us" page on an otherwise static site comes >> to mind immediately. >> >> Sure, if you're bu

Re: Stubborn coworkers

Jeff, Greetings all. I've followed perl6 development since the beginning, and have tried to stay at least somewhat informed along the way. I'll confess to being puzzled at some of the design decisions, but knowing my own limitations have had faith in @Larry to do the right thing. This topi

Re: OT: wiki engine architecture

[...] Also, what is the best place to begin learning the Perl6 syntax? A tutorial would be great, as a dry technical specification of the language doesn't teach very well. IMHO examples teach the best. A table with "Perl5 version" versus "Perl6 version" examples - even one-liners - would be

Re: OT: "my wiki syntax is better than yours"

Hi, I have never understand this "my wiki syntax is better than yours" thing. It's like "my templateing engine is better than yours". I feel like which should have "wiki.conf" with : ... syntaxhandler = SuperbPerl6Wiki::Syntax::MediaKwikiMikiBiky ... That shall please everyone. :) - Fagzal

Re: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

Hi, Hi Conrad, I run the grant committee for the Perl Foundation and I sit on the steering committee, so I suppose I can discuss your proposal (there are some other TPF folk here, too, so that's why this is a public email). Also, the following stuff is just off the top of my head and is in

Re: Minimum modules for Production?

Hi, However, as has been pointed out regarding MS Word, most users only use a very tiny subset of its functionality. The problem is that the users are using different subsets. I've done huge amounts of HTML parsing and can't recall having used GDBM_File. It all comes to *different* subset

Re: Simple Print/Say Question

Chris, Strange. I have just tried this using an old version (6.2.3) of Pugs: my (@array) = 1,2,3; print @array[0] ~ "|" ~ @array[1] ~ "|" ~ @array[2] ~ "\n"; It prints 1|2|3 on my terminal. Gabor's join-ed version also works. - Fagzal > Oops. That last . is a typo on my part. Sorry about th

Re: proposal: 404 method

András, I think you have just discovered AUTOLOAD :-) OTOH I don't know how the AUTOLOAD mechanism will work in Perl6 compared to Perl5, or if it has been imlemented in Pugs (yet), but as far as I remember, in Apocalypse 12 somewhere it says it will work the same(?) as in Perl5, and what you

Re: new mailing list: perl6-general?

Hi, Hi, I think, that David's version is matches with my opinion. I don't think, that "beginners" would be a better name for it, but maybe more practical, as it's a more evident name. Hmmm, I think "beginner" is a little negative. What about professional Perl5 programmers, who wish to lear

Re: new mailing list: perl6-general?

Hi, Just wanted to say the same. All my questions starting as "How to..." and "Is this..." are just to trivial to ask here :) OTOH as there is no "global" Perl5 list (AFAIK, at least), these things should go to the "regional" mail-lists - later on. However, at this phase of develpment of Per

Re: What the heck is... wrong with Parrot development?

Larry, On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 04:31:01PM +0200, anonymous coward wrote: : It's a funny old world... : wrote Dan Sugalski on June 04, 2005 in his Squawks of the Parrot blog. : Go and see: . : : Hence the subject. : : What the heck is wrong w

Re: ./method

Abhijit Mahabal wrote: (Note that "./" and "../" are prefix operators, and unlike ".?", ".*", ".+" and ".=", cannot be used infix. In fact, it requires that "?", "*", "+" and "=" be thought of as meta-operators to ".", and from now on, to "./" and "../" as well, so you get "./+method". This isn't a

Re: ./method

I also like this notation. However, as a side note, let me voice the opinion that the "bad reputation" of Perl partially comes from the fact that it often looks like line noise. I think everybody know this. Now there has been a lot of discussion on finding different meanings for any two-characte

Re: Nested captures

Autrijus Tang wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 12:37:06AM +0200, Fagyal Csongor wrote: Damian Conway wrote: print @array[1st..($n)th]; Sounds cool, but what about $n = 0; ? Then it would be 0..-1, an empty range. Yep, but I mean in general isn't it confusing that th

Re: Nested captures

Damian Conway wrote: print @array[1st..($n)th]; Sounds cool, but what about $n = 0; ? - Fagzal

Re: Nested captures

H, On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 08:30:42AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 05:48:59PM +1000, Damian Conway wrote: : But that's only the opinion of one(@Larry), not of $Larry. Let's go 0-based and make $0 =:= $/[0] so that $/[] is all the parens. Our old $0 (P5's $&) could be $<> inst

Re: Perl6 and support for Refactoring IDE's

Matisse, Just one note before we take this off-list: Maybe this isn't the right place to keep discussing this, so I'll take pointers to other places. I'm very worried about the continued viability of Perl for major projects and am trying connect with other people and see what can be done about i

Re: Perl6 and support for Refactoring IDE's

Matisse, Will Perl 6 help us have tools that are as good or better than the ones available for Java, C#, etc? I've been using Perl since 1994 and for the past several years have used it to build a number of complex mod_perl applications. I love Perl. The following may be considered heresy, but