[svn:parrot-pdd] r21301 - trunk/docs/pdds

2007-09-14 Thread allison
Author: allison Date: Fri Sep 14 23:35:56 2007 New Revision: 21301 Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/pdd15_objects.pod Log: [pdd] Add a reference to the object model diagram from PDD 15. Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/pdd15_objects.pod =

[svn:parrot-pdd] r21300 - trunk/docs/pdds/draft

2007-09-14 Thread allison
Author: allison Date: Fri Sep 14 23:30:20 2007 New Revision: 21300 Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/draft/pdd17_pmc.pod Log: [pdd] Expand and cleanup reference on vtable functions and core PMC types in PMC PDD. Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/draft/pdd17_pmc.pod =

Re: [PROPOSAL] [IMCC] Remove '.sym' directive for defining symbolic local vars.

2007-09-14 Thread Joshua Isom
On Sep 14, 2007, at 6:51 AM, Klaas-Jan wrote: On Sep 14, 1:47 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joshua Isom) wrote: I may be slow in understanding sometimes, but I really don't know what you mean.. :-) Could you elaborate a bit more? Do you mean you want to get unique local variables (as the macro magic

[perl #41168] graceful "no compiler" error message?

2007-09-14 Thread James Keenan via RT
On Fri Sep 14 16:22:57 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have agreed (in another thread), that these should be unified. So, > it's more a matter of TUITs than anything else. > > > But having a good design would also be useful. > > A good place to start is with a PDD-like summary of how it cu

[perl #41168] graceful "no compiler" error message?

2007-09-14 Thread James Keenan via RT
This thread and RT ticket (41168) have been under way since Jan 03 2007 and I'm afraid that the discussion is collapsing under its own weight. May I make an attempt at summarizing the issues? Let's proceed from the outermost inwards. 1. Should the Parrot configuration process come to a halt if

Re: [perl #41168] graceful "no compiler" error message?

2007-09-14 Thread Allison Randal
Andy Dougherty wrote: Trivial example: Configure.pl currently supports many incompatible ways to say "no" (excerpts from Configure.pl --help) --nomanicheckDon't check the MANIFEST --cgoto=0Don't build cgoto core - recommended when short of mem --without-gdbm

Re: Discussion of pdd22_io.pod

2007-09-14 Thread Allison Randal
Nicholas Clark wrote: On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 10:37:59PM -0700, Allison Randal wrote: The conclusion after a good bit of discussion earlier this year was that returning a status object for every synchronous operation was far too heavyweight. Exceptions don't get a high vote as an alternative,

Re: [svn:parrot] r21297 - trunk/src

2007-09-14 Thread chromatic
On Friday 14 September 2007 13:36:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Modified: >trunk/src/dynext.c > Modified: trunk/src/dynext.c > === >=== --- trunk/src/dynext.c (original) > +++ trunk/src/dynext.cFri Sep 14 13:3

[svn:parrot-pdd] r21298 - trunk/docs/pdds/draft

2007-09-14 Thread allison
Author: allison Date: Fri Sep 14 13:37:17 2007 New Revision: 21298 Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/draft/pdd17_pmc.pod Log: [pdd] Brushing away alternate timelines from PDD 17, and making cleanups. Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/draft/pdd17_pmc.pod ==

[svn:parrot-pdd] r21293 - trunk/docs/pdds/draft

2007-09-14 Thread allison
Author: allison Date: Fri Sep 14 13:14:02 2007 New Revision: 21293 Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/draft/pdd17_pmc.pod Log: [pdd] Radical simplification for inheriting from low-level PMCs in high-level classes. Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/draft/pdd17_pmc.pod

inheriting from low-level PMCs

2007-09-14 Thread Allison Randal
I just checked in (r21293) a substantial change to the PDD 17 section "PMCs and high-level objects", detailing the inheritance strategy from low-level PMCs to high-level classes. We've been poking around the edges of the problem since we started the new metamodel, but this is a radical simplif

[svn:perl6-synopsis] r14463 - doc/trunk/design/syn

2007-09-14 Thread larry
Author: larry Date: Fri Sep 14 11:14:45 2007 New Revision: 14463 Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S02.pod doc/trunk/design/syn/S04.pod doc/trunk/design/syn/S06.pod doc/trunk/design/syn/S09.pod doc/trunk/design/syn/S11.pod doc/trunk/design/syn/S12.pod Log: typos and nobreak spaces

[svn:parrot-pdd] r21278 - trunk/docs/pdds/draft

2007-09-14 Thread smash
Author: smash Date: Fri Sep 14 06:38:12 2007 New Revision: 21278 Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/draft/pdd19_pir.pod Log: [pdd]: some small reviews including: * marked off items to review and proposals from RT * some directives/ops/... revisited * some updates from DEPRECATED * updated 'type'

[svn:perl6-synopsis] r14462 - doc/trunk/design/syn

2007-09-14 Thread larry
Author: larry Date: Fri Sep 14 10:34:57 2007 New Revision: 14462 Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S02.pod doc/trunk/design/syn/S03.pod doc/trunk/design/syn/S04.pod doc/trunk/design/syn/S12.pod Log: Expunge references to largely redundant "long dot" concept Modified: doc/trunk/design/s

Re: [PROPOSAL] [IMCC] Remove '.sym' directive for defining symbolic local vars.

2007-09-14 Thread Klaas-Jan
On Sep 14, 1:47 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joshua Isom) wrote: > On Sep 13, 2007, at 9:00 PM, Allison Randal wrote: > > > Joshua Isom wrote: > >> And while we're add it, can we add the magic to do the same thing we > >> to do labels to variables as well? > > > What thing? > > > Allison > > It's the lit

Re: [perl #41168] graceful "no compiler" error message?

2007-09-14 Thread Andy Dougherty
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, James E Keenan wrote: > Andy Dougherty wrote: > > > (If cc_build and cc_run do get meaningful exit codes, inter::progs needs to > > be revisited anyway to actually use those codes.) > > If you do revisit config/inter/progs.pm, please bear in mind that I have > written some

[svn:parrot-pdd] r21279 - trunk/docs/pdds

2007-09-14 Thread paultcochrane
Author: paultcochrane Date: Fri Sep 14 08:45:45 2007 New Revision: 21279 Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/pdd07_codingstd.pod Log: [pdd] (pdd07) Added an example of splitting a long line before an operator. Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/pdd07_codingstd.pod ==

[perl #45437] [BUG]: platform-specific utility 'sed' appears in makefile

2007-09-14 Thread Paul Cochrane via RT
On Thu Sep 13 22:39:32 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sep 13, 2007, at 8:21 PM, Jerry Gay (via RT) wrote: > > > # New Ticket Created by Jerry Gay > > # Please include the string: [perl #45437] > > # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. > > # http://rt.perl.o

Discussion of pdd13_bytecode.pod

2007-09-14 Thread Paul Cochrane
Hi all, me again! I found a few things in PDD13 - Parrot Bytecode which need work. Again, this is just an email to start of discussion and to then generate any refinements necessary for a complete(d) design. =item Key Constants Within this section there is the todo item: {{ TODO: Figure out

[svn:parrot-pdd] r21275 - trunk/docs/pdds

2007-09-14 Thread paultcochrane
Author: paultcochrane Date: Fri Sep 14 05:06:20 2007 New Revision: 21275 Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/pdd21_namespaces.pod Log: [pdd] Minor formatting and English changes. Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/pdd21_namespaces.pod

Discussion of pdd20_lexical_vars.pod

2007-09-14 Thread Paul Cochrane
Hi all, Here is the next installment of the current outstanding issues I've found in the PDDs. This time in PDD20 - Lexical Variables =item Conceptual Model Under the subsection "LexPad PMC" there is the comment: TODO: Describe how lexical naming system interacts with non-ASCII character s

[svn:parrot-pdd] r21276 - trunk/docs/pdds

2007-09-14 Thread paultcochrane
Author: paultcochrane Date: Fri Sep 14 06:04:36 2007 New Revision: 21276 Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/pdd20_lexical_vars.pod Log: [pdd] Minor formatting changes. Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/pdd20_lexical_vars.pod == --- t

[svn:parrot-pdd] r21277 - trunk/docs/pdds

2007-09-14 Thread paultcochrane
Author: paultcochrane Date: Fri Sep 14 06:30:25 2007 New Revision: 21277 Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/pdd13_bytecode.pod Log: [pdd] Correction of typos and English. Minor formatting changes. Removed a podchecker warning. Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/pdd13_bytecode.pod ===

Discussion of pdd07_codingstd.pod

2007-09-14 Thread Paul Cochrane
Hi everyone! Continuing with the theme of discussing the PDDs, here is a starter email to kick off discussion of PDD07 - the coding standards of Parrot. Coding standards can often be a really touchy subject, so I hope we can amicably come to consensus decisions about the various points I'm about

Discussion of pdd21_namespaces.pod

2007-09-14 Thread Paul Cochrane
Hi all, Continuing on with my mentioning of discussion points within PDDs, here are the relevant items from PDD21 - Parrot Namespaces. =item * Under the Compiler PMC API section within the explanation of the C method there is the text: On failure, an exception is thrown. {XXX - I'd settle fo

Re: Discussion of pdd22_io.pod

2007-09-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 10:37:59PM -0700, Allison Randal wrote: > The conclusion after a good bit of discussion earlier this year was that > returning a status object for every synchronous operation was far too > heavyweight. Exceptions don't get a high vote as an alternative, but Even if the