Robin Redeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 02:27:58PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
>> API's aren't finished yet and are extended more or less on demand.
> Ah, ok :) Who will decide what is demanded?
A patch on p6l is a good indication for a demand :)
> Hm, ok, i guess i
Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have
> Perl5cargo_cult
> |
> Perl5Base
> / \
> Perl5PV Perl5IV
> \ /
> Perl5PVIV
Nice.
> perl5pviv.c:45: error: `Parrot_Perl5PV_init' undeclared (first use in this
> function)
If memory serves me right there is a
From: Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:43:32 -0400
At 5:40 PM +0200 4/27/05, Robin Redeker wrote:
>Just for the curious me: What was the design decision behind the GC
>solution? Was refcounting that bad? . . .
I'll answer this one, since I'm the one res
On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 12:56:22PM -0800, Ovid wrote:
> Well, OK. So I tried it:
>
> use Test::More qw/no_plan/;
> use Test::Builder;
> use Hook::LexWrap;
> use Data::Dumper;
>
> wrap Test::Builder::ok
^
^
comma mi
Glenn Ehrlich wrote:
The darcs repository doesn't seem to have been updated for several days now. Is
anything wrong, or has it changed location?
If that happens again just ask on IRC. I think a synchronisation daemon
just needs kicking over.
Sam.
Hi,
The darcs repository doesn't seem to have been updated for several days now. Is
anything wrong, or has it changed location?
Glenn
Just to de-Warnock this thread:
Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 3) PIR syntax
>
> It was already discussed a few times that we might change PIR syntax:
>
> current:
>
>Px = Pyset Px, Py alias Px and Py
>Px = assign Py assign Px, Py copy values
Luke Palmer wrote:
`is pure` would be great to have! For possible auto-memoization of
likely-to-be-slow subs it can be useful, but it also makes great
documentation.
It's going in there whether Larry likes it or not[1]. There are so
incredibly many optimizations that you can do on pure functions,
The Perl 6 Summary for the week ending 2005-04-26
It's my turn again. What fun.
"What," I hear you all ask, "has been going on in the crazy mixed up
world of Perl 6 design and development"? Read this summary and,
beginning with perl6-compiler, I shall tell you.
This week in perl6-
David Storrs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I image we've all written logging code that looks something like this
> (Perl5 syntax):
>
> sub foo {
> my ($x,$y) = @_;
> note("Entering frobnitz(). params: '$x', '$y'");
> ...
> }
>
> This, of course, throws an 'uninitialized val
Luke Palmer wrote:
Rod Adams writes:
Perhaps the easiest way to explain the difficulty here is to note that
executing a relational op (i.e. returning a boolean) value on a junction
argument returns a junction of boolean values.
Is that so? Does Perl6 have some fundamental law of junctio
Aaron Sherman writes:
> > Ever since I stopped caring about speed, I've started to write code
> > almost twice as fast. And the code itself isn't slower.
>
> Ok, so let's separate the premature optimization from removing massive
> bottlenecks from code. When I can get a reporting program that t
Rod Adams writes:
> >>Perhaps the easiest way to explain the difficulty here is to note that
> >>executing a relational op (i.e. returning a boolean) value on a junction
> >>argument returns a junction of boolean values.
> >
> >
> >Is that so? Does Perl6 have some fundamental law of junction
> >pr
At 5:40 PM +0200 4/27/05, Robin Redeker wrote:
Just for the curious me: What was the design decision behind the GC
solution? Was refcounting that bad? Refcounting gives a more global
speed hit indeed, but it's more deterministic and you wont run into
(probably) long halts during GC. (Java programs
> > Some outdated files:
> >
> >lib/Parrot/PackFile/*
> >lib/Parrot/PackFile.pm
> >lib/Parrot/PackFile2.*
> >
> > what is:
> >
> >lib/Parrot/String.pm old packfile code?
> >lib/Parrot/Types.pm same?
> >lib/Parrot/Key.pm same?
>
> All the above files appear to be r
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 10:30:35AM -0600, Paul Seamons wrote:
> Minor note.
>
> Would you want this:
> >sub &infix:(Str $a, Str $b) { return ($a eq $b) ? $a : ''; }
> to be [corrected]:
>sub &infix:(Str $a, Str $b)
>{ return ($a eq $b) ?? $a but bool::true :: ''; }
Perhaps, but I
Thomas Sandlaß wrote:
Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 08:46:53AM -0400, Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
The problem is that in the regex version I use capturing parens to
identify the character matched. For the purposes of the problem I
don't need to rely on the first character matched I j
On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 17:13, Juerd wrote:
> > or you could have a keyword that introduces the label:
> > rx/label + + (|)/
> > or you could use some kind of trickery:
> > rx/label : $/
>
> Or make it a macro.
>
> label; for 1... {
> ...
> }
This has debugging problems,
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 06:29:46PM +0200, Thomas Sandlaß wrote:
> Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> >>my $matches = any( @x_chars ) eq any( @y_chars );
> >>my $match = $matches.pick;
> >
> >Perhaps the easiest way to explain the difficulty here is to note that
> >executing a relational op (i.e. returning
Thomas Sandlaà writes:
> Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> >On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 08:46:53AM -0400, Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
> >
> >>The problem is that in the regex version I use capturing parens to
> >>identify the character matched. For the purposes of the problem I
> >>don't need to rely on the first
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 10:30:35AM -0600, Paul Seamons wrote:
> Minor note.
>
> Would you want this:
>
> >sub &infix:(Str $a, Str $b) { return ($a eq $b) ? $a : ''; }
>
> to be:
>
>sub &infix:(Str $a, Str $b) { return ($a eq $b) ? $a but bool::true:
> ''; }
>
> (Is that the right way
Minor note.
Would you want this:
>sub &infix:(Str $a, Str $b) { return ($a eq $b) ? $a : ''; }
to be:
sub &infix:(Str $a, Str $b) { return ($a eq $b) ? $a but bool::true:
''; }
(Is that the right way to do it ?)
Paul
Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 08:46:53AM -0400, Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
The problem is that in the regex version I use capturing parens to
identify the character matched. For the purposes of the problem I
don't need to rely on the first character matched I just need to know
1.
Wi
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 04:00:54PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> There are no Parrot_Perl5PV_init, etc functions. Is this a bug in pmc2c2.pl?
Looks like a mistake I made. Too many autogenerated files.
Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 02:27:58PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> Robin Redeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> > Any hints when looking for functions that 'maybe' go into the API?
>
> API's aren't finished yet and are extended more or less on demand.
>
Ah, ok :) Who will decide what is dema
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 08:46:53AM -0400, Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
> The problem is that in the regex version I use capturing parens to
> identify the character matched. For the purposes of the problem I
> don't need to rely on the first character matched I just need to know
> 1.
>
> Without doing a
I have
Perl5cargo_cult
|
Perl5Base
/ \
Perl5PV Perl5IV
\ /
Perl5PVIV
The bottom 4 PMC classes shown are currently empty, so they genuinely are
just:
pmclass Perl5base extends Perl5cargo_cult dynpmc group Perl5_group {
}
pmclass Perl5PV extends Perl5base dynp
Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 08:55:21AM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
>> - morph for scalars is ok: e.g. an Integer transforms itself to a Float
>> - morph for arbitrary objects must never be done automatically
> So really my morph code ought to check the ne
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 03:32:12 -0400, Autrijus Tang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
3. Labels applies to blocks, not statements
Instead of this:
LABEL:
say "Hello!"
say "Hi!"
One has to write this (essentially creating named blocks):
LABEL: {
say "Hello!"
say "Hi!
Robin Redeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 08:09:48AM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
>> albeit it isn't part of the official embedding API (yet).
> Ok, thanks, i'll have a look at that.
> Any idea when there will be a more complete official embedding API?
> Any hints when l
Ok - sorry for the cheesy subject line but I couldn't resist.
So I am working on porting some interesting pieces of code I wrote in
p5 at the Monastery to p6 for the benefit of others - primarily to
show how easy the transition can be.
Since Pugs doesn't have p6 rules yet I wanted to show off the
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 01:53:11AM -0600, Luke Palmer wrote:
> Juerd writes:
> > Autrijus Tang skribis 2005-04-27 17:04 (+0800):
> > > I can certainly see a `is pure` trait on Perl 6 function that declares
> > > them to be safe from side effects. In a sense, `is const` also does that.
> >
> > `i
On 27 Apr 2005 08:21:27 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rafael Garcia-Suarez)
wrote:
> Autrijus Tang wrote in perl.perl6.language :
> >
> > 4. Software Transaction Memory
> >
> > Like GHC Haskell, Fortress introduces the `atomic` operator that takes a
> > block, and ensures that any code running inside
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 08:55:21AM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> - morph for scalars is ok: e.g. an Integer transforms itself to a Float
> - morph for arbitrary objects must never be done automatically
So really my morph code ought to check the new type to see if it understands
it, and if not t
On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 10:48, Luke Palmer wrote:
> Aaron Sherman writes:
> > The reasons I don't "use English" in P5:
> >
> > * Variable access is slower
> Hmm, looks to me like $INPUT_RECORD_SEPARATOR is faster. (Actually
> they're the same: on each run a different one won, but just barel
Juerd writes:
> Autrijus Tang skribis 2005-04-27 17:04 (+0800):
> > I can certainly see a `is pure` trait on Perl 6 function that declares
> > them to be safe from side effects. In a sense, `is const` also does that.
>
> `is pure` would be great to have! For possible auto-memoization of
> likely-
On 27 Apr 2005, at 06:03, Michael G Schwern wrote:
[snip]
This finally allows one to create a second Test::Builder object via
Test::Builder->create. Authors of modules which test testing modules
may
now rejoice, you can use Test::Builder to test Test::Builder!
Neato!
Adrian
Autrijus Tang skribis 2005-04-27 17:04 (+0800):
> I can certainly see a `is pure` trait on Perl 6 function that declares
> them to be safe from side effects. In a sense, `is const` also does that.
`is pure` would be great to have! For possible auto-memoization of
likely-to-be-slow subs it can be
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 08:21:27AM -, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote:
> Autrijus Tang wrote in perl.perl6.language :
> >
> > 4. Software Transaction Memory
> > In Fortress, there is also an `atomic` trait for functions, that
> > declares the entire function as atomic.
>
> Interesting; and this rol
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 08:09:48AM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> Robin Redeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> > 1. i wonder how to load bytecode from the memory to parrot when
> > embedding it. i've read embed.pod and couldn't find a function that let me
> > create a packfile or something i c
Autrijus Tang wrote in perl.perl6.language :
>
> 4. Software Transaction Memory
>
> Like GHC Haskell, Fortress introduces the `atomic` operator that takes a
> block, and ensures that any code running inside the block, in a
> concurrent setting, must happen transactionally -- i.e. if some
> precondi
Fortress is Sun's project at making a next-generation computer language.
I like its technical report very, very much:
http://research.sun.com/projects/plrg/fortress0618.pdf
(via http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/view/673 )
Syntax aside (eg. their `=` and `:=` has the reverse meaning
in
Robin Redeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello!
> The last weeks i've been in joy to implement a small vm for a
> special runtime enviroment. As i'm a regular reader of the perl.perl6.*
> mailing lists and know about parrot. I wondered how easy it would be
> to throw away my own vm solution and
A long overdue change is now committed dicussed around more then a year ago.
The short story:
* interpreter->code is now a PackFile_ByteCode pointer
* the "shortcut" pointers to prederef or jit_info are gone
* switching a bytecode segment for a function call or return is now
basically just one C i
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