Re: [perl] Re: Object Order of Precedence (Was: Vocabulary)

2003-12-20 Thread Rod Adams
Luke Palmer wrote: Joe Gottman writes: - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Lang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 3:41 PM Subject: [perl] Re: Object Order of Precedence (Was: Vocabulary) Larry Wall wrote: If DangerousPet doesn't define a

Re: [perl] Re: Object Order of Precedence (Was: Vocabulary)

2003-12-20 Thread Luke Palmer
Joe Gottman writes: > > - Original Message - > From: "Jonathan Lang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 3:41 PM > Subject: [perl] Re: Object Order of Precedence (Was: Vocabulary) > > > > Larry Wall wrote: > > > If DangerousPet doesn't defin

Re: [perl] Re: Object Order of Precedence (Was: Vocabulary)

2003-12-20 Thread Joe Gottman
- Original Message - From: "Jonathan Lang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 3:41 PM Subject: [perl] Re: Object Order of Precedence (Was: Vocabulary) > Larry Wall wrote: > > If DangerousPet doesn't define a feed method at all, then we might >

Re: spam leakage

2003-12-20 Thread Robert Spier
I've trained the filter with all of Novembers spam, and done a few tweaks, and removed the recent offending messages from the parrot queue. Sorry for the annoyance. -R # Ticket 24616 updated. # Ticket 24655 updated. # Ticket 24677 updated. # Ticket 24692 updated. # Ticket 24696 updated. # Ticke

[perl #24722] Re: TVS, good and flattering

2003-12-20 Thread Madge Anaya
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Re: dispatching (was: Object Order of Precedence)

2003-12-20 Thread Larry Wall
On Sat, Dec 20, 2003 at 03:21:10PM -0800, Larry Wall wrote: : On Sat, Dec 20, 2003 at 03:12:53PM -0800, Jonathan Lang wrote: : : Why not do it the same way that namespace scoping collisions are resolved: : : the local scope trumps the caller's scope. Rinse, lather, repeat. Actually, I didn't se

junctive classes (was: Object Order of Precedence)

2003-12-20 Thread Jonathan Lang
Larry Wall wrote: > Jonathan Lang wrote: > : In a similar vein, what about making a disjunction of classes in an > : C or C clause synonymous with a sequence of appropriate > : clauses? Ditto with traits and C, roles and C, attributes > : and C, etc.; thus: > : > : class DangerousPet does Pe

trait declarations (was: Object Order of Precedence)

2003-12-20 Thread Jonathan Lang
Larry Wall wrote: > Jonathan Lang wrote: > : It also occurs to me that traits can be thought of > : as adjectives (thus the "is " vs. "is a " distinction) - > : another way to attach an adjective to a noun in English is to prepend > : it to the noun: > : > : my Dog $Spot is red; > : my black

Re: dispatching (was: Object Order of Precedence)

2003-12-20 Thread Larry Wall
On Sat, Dec 20, 2003 at 03:12:53PM -0800, Jonathan Lang wrote: : Naming in what way? As a descriptive term for discussing them in general, : or naming individual collections for reference purposes in the code? I meant naming primarily as in how you select a particular group of them. They don't

dispatching (was: Object Order of Precedence)

2003-12-20 Thread Jonathan Lang
Larry Wall wrote: > Jonathan Lang wrote: > : > Arguably, the role's might be required to declare their methods > : > "multi" if they want to participate in this, but that's one of those > : > things that feel like they ought to be declared by the user rather > : > than the definer. On the other h

Unreading characters from input streams

2003-12-20 Thread Cory Spencer
Is it possible to unread characters from an input stream in Parrot? (ie. if I do a "read char, 1", decide later than I don't want the character so I push it back on the stream) Failing that, is it possible to peek ahead at a character without necessarily taking it off the stream?

Re: but true

2003-12-20 Thread Simon Cozens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Wall) writes: > is classof($x) Ouch. $x's class isn't a property or trait of it? > class AnonClass is classof($x) does FooBar { }.bless($x, foobar => bar) I don't understand what the bit at the end is doing. This is calling .bless on the overriden method? And I'm not

Re: Object Order of Precedence (Was: Vocabulary)

2003-12-20 Thread Larry Wall
On Sat, Dec 20, 2003 at 12:41:10PM -0800, Jonathan Lang wrote: : So what happens if more than one of the candidates is tagged as the : default? The same thing as if none of them was? This could happen if : both Predator and Pet have declared their 'feed' methods as the default. Could blow up,

[ANNOUNCE] Test::Benchmark 0.002

2003-12-20 Thread Fergal Daly
Main changes added is_fastest() comparison was broken (but not completely broken so it still passed the tests) available soon on CPAN and now on http://www.fergaldaly.com/computer/Test-Benchmark/ F

Re: but true

2003-12-20 Thread Jonathan Lang
Larry Wall wrote: > Maybe there's an intermediate syntactic form like: > > $x but subclass MyClass does FooBar[bar] { } IMHO, C should be defined as generating a singleton class that derives from the variable's class and composes a specified role - but not neccessarily a I role. How about de

Re: This week's summary

2003-12-20 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* The Perl 6 Summarizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-12-16 11:57]: > bear in mind that the authors of the paper use the term > 'trait' for what we're calling a 'role' (We already have > traits you see). > > http://www.cse.ogi.edu/~black/publications/TR_CSE_02-012.pdf > -- Traits p

[PATCH] Embedding interface change

2003-12-20 Thread Vladimir Lipsky
Beware :) This patch changes Parrot_loadbc to Parrot_set_packfile. 0x4C56 diff Description: Binary data

Re: Object Order of Precedence (Was: Vocabulary)

2003-12-20 Thread Jonathan Lang
Larry Wall wrote: > Jonathan Lang wrote: > : Larry Wall wrote: > : > Jonathan Lang wrote: > Also, there will be access to the list of call candidates for SUPER:: > (and presumably ROLE::) such that the class's method can get explicit > control of which super/role method or methods get called. So

Re: [perl #24683] [PATCH] P6C update concat and bitwise operators

2003-12-20 Thread Allison Randal
Leo wrote: > > I had a short look at the subdir hierarchy, looks good. Excellent. > (perl6:run_tests, Makefile, and t/harness have to learn how to deal with > differently deep nested test files though). Yeah, that's on my Todo list. Hmmm... I should probably add the list to the repository. > I

Re: [perl #24683] [PATCH] P6C update concat and bitwise operators

2003-12-20 Thread Allison Randal
Piers wrote: > > p6d? The perl6-documentation list. Started around Nov. 2002, it had about 3 months of heavy traffic and not much since. But, we did get a good plan for the direction of p6 testing out of it. Allison

Re: [perl #24682] [BUG] parrot compile fails on MacOS 10.3.1 - possibly dynaloading patch?

2003-12-20 Thread Jeff Clites
On Dec 20, 2003, at 1:54 AM, Leopold Toetsch wrote: Jeff Clites <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The issue turns out to be that SIGFPE isn't raised on Mac OS X on divide by zero. If I hack src/core_ops.c to explicitly raise(SIGFPE) in the case of zero divisor then the tests pass, so the exception han

[perl #24715] Mortgage rates as low as 1.94% w byaoq sbe nr

2003-12-20 Thread Seymour Medeiros
# New Ticket Created by "Seymour Medeiros" # Please include the string: [perl #24715] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=24715 > Refinance today to as low as 1.5%! or buy the home of your dreams! It's not too l

Re: [perl #24701] [PATCH] Build core_ops.c etc in ops dir instead of src

2003-12-20 Thread Leopold Toetsch
JüRgen" "BöMmels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the *.ops files are lying in the ops/ directory, but the generated > c-files go to the src/ directory. This is completly different from > classes/, imcc/ etc. where the generated c-files go to the same > directory. Is this difference intentional? Soun

Re: [perl #24682] [BUG] parrot compile fails on MacOS 10.3.1 - possibly dynaloading patch?

2003-12-20 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Jeff Clites <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The issue turns out to be that SIGFPE isn't raised on Mac OS X on > divide by zero. If I hack src/core_ops.c to explicitly raise(SIGFPE) in > the case of zero divisor then the tests pass, so the exception handling > code seems to be working correctly. Ah,

Re: [perl #24683] [PATCH] P6C update concat and bitwise operators

2003-12-20 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Allison Randal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Leo wrote: >> >> > I've added two test files, bitwise.t and concat.t, which go in t/op/ >> > (the op/ directory doesn't exist yet) >> >> Missing? > The directory needs to be added. We're gradually moving our way toward > the test hierarchy planned on p6d

spam leakage

2003-12-20 Thread Robert Spier
apologies for the recent spam leakage.. it looks like I need to do my bi-monthly tuning. I'll try and get to it as soon as I can. -R

Re: [perl #24683] [PATCH] P6C update concat and bitwise operators

2003-12-20 Thread Piers Cawley
Allison Randal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Leo wrote: >> >> > I've added two test files, bitwise.t and concat.t, which go in t/op/ >> > (the op/ directory doesn't exist yet) >> >> Missing? > > The directory needs to be added. We're gradually moving our way toward > the test hierarchy planned o