Re: Just in case you were wondering if alignment matters...

2001-04-17 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 09:05 PM 4/17/2001 +0100, Alan Burlison wrote: >Uri Guttman wrote: > > > malloc normally doesn't care about alignment. > >I'll think you will find it does care. I'm pretty sure that everyone's malloc returns data aligned to the CPU's favorite boundary. It's what we do with the malloc'd area t

Re: Just in case you were wondering if alignment matters...

2001-04-17 Thread Alan Burlison
Uri Guttman wrote: > malloc normally doesn't care about alignment. I'll think you will find it does care. Alan Burlison

RE: A volunteer needed for some PDD writing

2001-04-17 Thread Soyoung Park
I'd like to follow up closely (as well as I can) on all three, but my biggest interest lies on 'Unicode string handling' because I'm interested in i18n/l10n stuff! :) Do let me know how I can help out. Soyoung *) Debugging support perl 6 will or should provide *) Unicode string handling *) Sa

Re: Parsing perl 5 with perl 6 (was Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1)

2001-04-17 Thread Edward Peschko
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 09:23:56AM -0400, John Porter wrote: > Tim Bunce wrote: > > If the file doesn't start with Perl 6 thingy then > > it's Perl 5. Period. > > To mandate the impossible is to mandate failure. > > "Nothing can parse perl like Perl." > > Why is that? Because perl has a bunch

RE: A volunteer needed for some PDD writing

2001-04-17 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 10:44 AM 4/17/2001 -0700, Soyoung Park wrote: >I'd be interested in taking a part! > >My documentation is fairly good, and I think my perl, general development >vocabulary should be good enough to put them together. >I'm sure I'll get some help if needed, right? Keen. Which one do you want res

RE: A volunteer needed for some PDD writing

2001-04-17 Thread Soyoung Park
I'd be interested in taking a part! My documentation is fairly good, and I think my perl, general development vocabulary should be good enough to put them together. I'm sure I'll get some help if needed, right? :) Soyoung -Original Message- From: Dan Sugalski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Re: Parsing perl 5 with perl 6 (was Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1)

2001-04-17 Thread Larry Wall
Dan Sugalski writes: : At 10:16 AM 4/17/2001 +0100, Tim Bunce wrote: : >On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 02:49:07PM -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: : > > People seem to think that telling Perl 5 apart from Perl 6 is trivial. : > : >My reading of Larry's comments is that it will be _made_ trivial at the : >

Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1

2001-04-17 Thread Jeff Okamoto
> > > The > > > timescales of corporations like Sun are not the same as those commonly > > > encountered in the open software arena. > > > > Ditto for HP. > > Which is more extreme (HP9000/L1000, HP-UX 11.00 + March 2001 patches): > > % /usr/contrib/bin/perl -v > > This is perl, version 4.0 >

A volunteer needed for some PDD writing

2001-04-17 Thread Dan Sugalski
Okay, I need some volunteers to write some PDDs. Specifically on these topics: *) Debugging support perl 6 will or should provide *) Unicode string handling *) Safe mode (or some other sandbox scheme) and taint handling Takers? You don't necessarily have to generate the ideas--a call for sugges

Re: Parsing perl 5 with perl 6 (was Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1)

2001-04-17 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 10:16 AM 4/17/2001 +0100, Tim Bunce wrote: >On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 02:49:07PM -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > > People seem to think that telling Perl 5 apart from Perl 6 is trivial. > >My reading of Larry's comments is that it will be _made_ trivial at the >file scope level. If the file doe

Re: Parsing perl 5 with perl 6 (was Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1)

2001-04-17 Thread Simon Cozens
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 09:23:56AM -0400, John Porter wrote: > "Nothing can parse perl like Perl." Just saying it doesn't make it true, you know. -- Keep the number of passes in a compiler to a minimum. -- D. Gries

Re: Parsing perl 5 with perl 6 (was Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1)

2001-04-17 Thread John Porter
Tim Bunce wrote: > If the file doesn't start with Perl 6 thingy then > it's Perl 5. Period. To mandate the impossible is to mandate failure. "Nothing can parse perl like Perl." Why is that? > My reading of Larry's comments is that it won't be "in" our "new > beautiful code". [Umm, pride bef

Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1

2001-04-17 Thread H . Merijn Brand
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:29:41 PDT, Jeff Okamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The > > timescales of corporations like Sun are not the same as those commonly > > encountered in the open software arena. > > Ditto for HP. Which is more extreme (HP9000/L1000, HP-UX 11.00 + March 2001 patches): % /u

Re: Parsing perl 5 with perl 6 (was Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1)

2001-04-17 Thread Tim Bunce
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 02:49:07PM -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > I don't get it. > > The first and foremost duty of Perl 6 is to parse and execute Perl 6. > If it doesn't, it's not Perl 6. I will call this the Prime Directive. Great, but don't loose sight of the fact that a key feature of "