Re: AT&T / UWIN in violation of GNU/FSF wrt to GCC

2001-01-10 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 03:55:01PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > I'm not really sure why you're bringing the UWIN GCC thing up on this > mailing list Amen. Could we just kill it here, please? -- "I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated Development That' to get to gcc, Emacs, an

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-10 Thread Russ Allbery
John van V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [someone else] >> Also, note that if we use a modified version of the GPL, it will likely >> be incompatible with the real GPL, which will cause big licensing >> problems. > In a compomise, everybody gives a little, otherwise everybody suffers; The dual

Re: AT&T / UWIN in violation of GNU/FSF wrt to GCC

2001-01-10 Thread Russ Allbery
John van V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am going to play the peace-maker here for a moment, is there any > possibility of negoiating a way out of this because I dont feel that it: > a) benefits the world of users > and > b) makes a whole lotta sense considering that ATT has attempted to go >

Re: perl IS an event loop (was Re: Speaking of signals...)

2001-01-10 Thread nick
Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >At 04:01 PM 1/6/01 +, Simon Cozens wrote: >>On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 10:59:04AM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: >> > >Which is exactly what Chip did in his safe-signals patch. 33% slowdown. >> > I think you misremember that number. IIRC it was somewhere betw

Re: Exposing regexp engine & compiled regexp's

2001-01-10 Thread Branden
Quoted from http://www.perl.com/pub/2000/09/ilya.html, an interview with Dr. Ilya Zakharevich: > > Q: Could you describe in more detail what additional text- > handling primitives you would like to see included with Perl? > What string munging operations are absent that really ought to > be inclu

Re: perl IS an event loop (was Re: Speaking of signals...)

2001-01-10 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 07:19 PM 1/10/01 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> "NI" == Nick Ing-Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > NI> Bart Lateur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> > > >> Apropos safe signals, isn't it possible to let perl6 handle avoiding > >

Re: perl IS an event loop (was Re: Speaking of signals...)

2001-01-10 Thread nick
Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "NI" == Nick Ing-Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > NI> Bart Lateur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> Apropos safe signals, isn't it possible to let perl6 handle avoiding > >> zombie processes internally? What use does having to do wait(

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-10 Thread John van V
This whole issue is reminding of Randal's defense. The jury was far too mystified to decide in his favor, only the judge understood the arguement, hence no jail time ( for a 3 time felon ?? ) I think this thread started as a result of a desire to use GNU code in Perl6 where the license would

Re: AT&T / UWIN in violation of GNU/FSF wrt to GCC

2001-01-10 Thread Ben Tilly
"John van V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From the MinGW.Sourceforge.net list-- > >I am going to play the peace-maker here for a moment, is >there any possibility of negoiating a way out of this >because I dont feel that it: Doubtful. The first thing you must understand is that the FSF

AT&T / UWIN in violation of GNU/FSF wrt to GCC

2001-01-10 Thread John van V
>From the MinGW.Sourceforge.net list-- I am going to play the peace-maker here for a moment, is there any possibility of negoiating a way out of this because I dont feel that it: a) benefits the world of users and b) makes a whole lotta sense considering that ATT has attempted to go the

Re: AIO and threads - my prejudices

2001-01-10 Thread Branden
Alan Burlison wrote: > Hmm. I've been half-following the async IO and signals thread in > perl6-internals. The first thing I would say is that if you think there > are portability problems with threads and signals, wait until you get to > play with cross-platform AIO. General received wisdom s