Re: licensing issues

2001-01-09 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
John van V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was really amused to see RMS and Eric Raymond agree for the first time > in history where Chinese Linux companies were pirating the OS. I actually doubt RMS agreed that they were "pirating". I am sure he would have used the word "copyright infringement"

Re: Exposing regexp engine & compiled regexp's

2001-01-09 Thread Damian Conway
> As Rick pointed out, there's no problem with overloading =~ for an > object, in the same way it's done with `eq', and one object's > function could return either an object or a closure (a sub > reference), so that a module could even hide the details of whether > it's using the ob

AIO and threads - my prejudices

2001-01-09 Thread Alan Burlison
Copied from p5p as it seemed kinda relevant. Dan Sugalski wrote: > >Roll on perl6... > > Well, besides "Just don't *do* that," any thoughts on how to handle this > properly in p6? Hmm. I've been half-following the async IO and signals thread in perl6-internals. The first thing I would say is

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-09 Thread John van V
Last year at the Open Source Expo in NY, I was really amused to see RMS and Eric Raymond agree for the first time in history where Chinese Linux companies were pirating the OS. But how can you pirate free s/w ??? Makes no sense to the lay reader; in the end it will be average people who supp

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-09 Thread John van V
> Respectfully, as with the other > issues, let's please give Larry his time at bat with the RFC as it stands > rather than second guessing ourselves again redundantly after the fact. very good, here's your lollipop ;)

Re: AIO vs. RISC OS; perl5 compatibility; subsystems (was: Re: Speaking of signals...)

2001-01-09 Thread Uri Guttman
> "RC" == Rocco Caputo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: RC> Re: Writing the subsystems together. RC> I think you misunderstand the other message's intent. The main loop, RC> the interpreter, and I/O, are three separate subsystems. I think RC> everyone agrees with you that they should b

Re: AIO vs. RISC OS; perl5 compatibility; subsystems (was: Re: Speaking of signals...)

2001-01-09 Thread Branden
Rocco Caputo wrote: > Re: Writing the subsystems together. > > I think you misunderstand the other message's intent. The main loop, > the interpreter, and I/O, are three separate subsystems. I think > everyone agrees with you that they should be interchangeable, but > their public interfaces are

AIO vs. RISC OS; perl5 compatibility; subsystems (was: Re: Speaking of signals...)

2001-01-09 Thread Rocco Caputo
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:12:15 -0200, Filipe Brandenburger wrote: >Rocco Caputo wrote: > >> ... >> [ *** code *** ] >> >>This could very well be an event driven program, with all the tedious >>mucking about with callbacks done under the hood. Regardless, it could >>run the same as long as either th

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-09 Thread Chris Nandor
At 0:59 -0500 2001.01.09, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: >Chris Nandor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> True, unless we stick to the same licensing scheme we have today for perl, >> which, like it or not, has served Perl very, very well. > >As it turns out, this isn't an RFC under consideration by Larry, A

Re: Exposing regexp engine & compiled regexp's

2001-01-09 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 12:41:30AM -0500, James Mastros wrote: > On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 05:02:17PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > > Wouldn't an incremental on-demand engine be much > > more flexible and optimizable (e.g. finding 'the fast path' smells > > like input-driven LRU to me)? > > Umm,

Re: Exposing regexp engine & compiled regexp's

2001-01-09 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Damian Conway wrote: >I'm well-known as a non-delving-into-the-guts type of guy. I don't have I totally aggree with you that delving into the guts is the last thing we, the people that use perl as a tool, want to do! The fact is that, the least we know about the internals, the better

Modular subsystem design (was Re: Speaking of signals...)

2001-01-09 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Nicholas Clark wrote: >Branden wrote: >> That's actually something I'd like to say about this ``subsystem''-based >> design of perl6. For it to be successful, it's imperative that all the >> modules >> don't know about each other, so that it's possible to replace a subsystem >> c

Re: Speaking of signals...

2001-01-09 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:12:15PM -0200, Filipe Brandenburger wrote: > Rocco Caputo wrote: > > > ... > > [ *** code *** ] > > > >This could very well be an event driven program, with all the tedious > >mucking about with callbacks done under the hood. Regardless, it could > >run the same as lon

Re: Speaking of signals...

2001-01-09 Thread Damien Neil
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:12:15PM -0200, Filipe Brandenburger wrote: > In the other way around, what matters to the design of the file i/o > subsystem is exactly the same thing: whether it will or won't be using > blocking syscalls. I believe after the decision of whether we will or not > allow b