Re: Guidelines for internals proposals and documentation

2000-11-17 Thread John van V
"David Grove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > But.. but... but... we don't even have a design spec. I mean, we don't > even know for sure what Perl 6 is going to look like for certain, inside > or outside. This is precisely why I proposed the BS level just below Development. In fact I'm going

Re: Guidelines for internals proposals and documentation

2000-11-17 Thread David Grove
Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:19 AM 11/17/00 -0800, Ken Fox wrote: > >However, I don't want to see early (premature) adoption of fundamental > >pieces like the VM or parser. It makes sense to me to explore many > possible > >designs and pick and choose between them. Also,

Re: Guidelines for internals proposals and documentation

2000-11-17 Thread Ken Fox
I agree with Dan's proposals for PDDs. In particular I like the idea of the WG chairs having decision power -- it should protect us somewhat from design-by-committee syndrome. However, I don't want to see early (premature) adoption of fundamental pieces like the VM or parser. It makes sense to me

Re: Guidelines for internals proposals and documentation

2000-11-17 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 10:19 AM 11/17/00 -0800, Ken Fox wrote: >However, I don't want to see early (premature) adoption of fundamental >pieces like the VM or parser. It makes sense to me to explore many possible >designs and pick and choose between them. Also, if we can keep external API >design separate from interna

Re: Elk - another paragon for us

2000-11-17 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 09:27 AM 11/17/00 -0800, Ken Fox wrote: >When we put scanning garbage collectors into perl, we should >provide an alternative for foreign code. We're likely going to have a scanning GC of some sort in perl 6. It'll probably only touch memory perl manages, and there'll be some way to register

Re: Elk - another paragon for us

2000-11-17 Thread Ken Fox
I used the Elk 2.x series extensively in several engineering applications I wrote for Ford Motor. It was a nice system in general, but perl's XS (and guts documentation) was much better than Elk's. One of the biggest problems with Elk is that it has a scanning garbage collector, not a ref count co