Re: RFC 357 (v1) Perl should use XML for documentation instead of POD

2000-10-05 Thread Nathan Torkington
It's time for the XML vs POD discussion to end. The RFCs are in limbo now, and this conversation is serving no visible purpose. Thanks, Nat

Re: RFC 361 (v1) Simplifying split()

2000-10-05 Thread Chaim Frenkel
> "PRL" == Perl6 RFC Librarian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: PRL> =item 2. Empty trailing fields are currently suppressed (although a PRL> -1 as the third argument disables this). I suggest that empty trailing PRL> fields be retained by default. Extremely useful, I rely on this. It makes non-

Re: RFC 326 (v1) Symbols, symbols everywhere

2000-10-05 Thread Chaim Frenkel
> "DS" == Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DS> For the internals, though... DS> This would be very useful, and it's a feature I'd really like to implement. DS> Basically you're asking for pre-computed, indirect, shared hash keys. This DS> sounds like a Good Plan to me. Why precomp

Re: RFC 125 (v2) Components in the Perl Core Should Have Well-Defined APIs and Behavior

2000-10-05 Thread Philip Newton
On 5 Oct 2000, at 13:44, Dan Sugalski wrote: > At 06:19 PM 10/5/00 +0200, Philip Newton wrote: > >On 2 Oct 2000, at 16:14, Dan Sugalski wrote: > > > > > I'll have to go pick that up on Thursday and add it to the Darned Big Pile > > > of books I need to read. > > > >Funny how everyone seems to hav

Re: RFC 125 (v2) Components in the Perl Core Should Have Well-Defined APIs and Behavior

2000-10-05 Thread Philip Newton
On 2 Oct 2000, at 16:14, Dan Sugalski wrote: > At 04:34 PM 9/29/00 -0400, John Porter wrote: > >Dan Sugalski wrote: > > > > > > I've no experience with UML, though. Got a pointer to a quick overview? > > > >Without a doubt, "UML Distilled" is the bible of the genre. > > I'll have to go pick that

Re: RFC 357 (v2) Perl should use XML for documentation instead of POD

2000-10-05 Thread Uri Guttman
> "DS" == Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DS> bits of both systems so it all can be wedged into perl. I'd really DS> like to incorporate the good bits of VMS' async I/O and event DS> handling into perl, for example. hear! hear! as the author/maintainer of the event loop and as

Re: RFC 357 (v1) Perl should use XML for documentation instead of POD

2000-10-05 Thread Andrew Wilson
On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 11:47:46AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: > On 4 Oct 2000, at 14:06, John Porter wrote: > > > I am of the opinion that any documentation which requires, or at least > > would significantly benefit from, the use of something heavy like SGML > > is best done OUTSIDE THE CODE.

Re: RFC 357 (v2) Perl should use XML for documentation instead of POD

2000-10-05 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 06:40 PM 10/5/00 +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: >On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 01:38:18PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: > > Perl 6 is going to be the community's rewrite. His design to start, but > > the community's rewrite. (The alternative is to have the thing be *my* > > rewrite, and I don't think we w

Re: RFC 357 (v2) Perl should use XML for documentation instead of POD

2000-10-05 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 11:08 AM 10/5/00 -0700, Peter Scott wrote: >At 01:38 PM 10/5/00 -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: >>On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, John Porter wrote: >> >> > Peter Scott wrote: >> > > the idea is to be an extension of Larry's creative thinking >> > > process. Neither of us is deciding what goes into Perl 6, and

Re: RFC 125 (v2) Components in the Perl Core Should Have Well-Defined APIs and Behavior

2000-10-05 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 07:51 PM 10/5/00 +0200, Philip Newton wrote: >On 5 Oct 2000, at 13:44, Dan Sugalski wrote: > > > At 06:19 PM 10/5/00 +0200, Philip Newton wrote: > > >On 2 Oct 2000, at 16:14, Dan Sugalski wrote: > > > > > > > I'll have to go pick that up on Thursday and add it to the Darned > Big Pile > > > >

Re: RFC 357 (v2) Perl should use XML for documentation instead of POD

2000-10-05 Thread Peter Scott
At 01:38 PM 10/5/00 -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: >On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, John Porter wrote: > > > Peter Scott wrote: > > > the idea is to be an extension of Larry's creative thinking > > > process. Neither of us is deciding what goes into Perl 6, and > neither is > > > the community - I hope. Larry

Re: RFC 357 (v1) Perl should use XML for documentation instead of POD

2000-10-05 Thread John Porter
Philip Newton wrote: > If the pod (or whatever) is in a > separate file, this advantage is lost. Of course; I'd *never* say that there should be NO documentation in the perl code file. That would be absurd. -- John Porter By pressing down a special key It plays a little melody

Re: RFC 357 (v2) Perl should use XML for documentation instead of POD

2000-10-05 Thread Nathan Wiger
John Porter wrote: > > RFCs like "330: Global dynamic variables should remain the > default" should not need to be written! (No disrespect to you, > Nate.) None taken; I actually agree. Unfortunately, I thought that -strict did nowhere near enough analysis of scoping issues besides the initial s

Re: RFC 125 (v2) Components in the Perl Core Should Have Well-Defined APIs and Behavior

2000-10-05 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 06:19 PM 10/5/00 +0200, Philip Newton wrote: >On 2 Oct 2000, at 16:14, Dan Sugalski wrote: > > > At 04:34 PM 9/29/00 -0400, John Porter wrote: > > >Dan Sugalski wrote: > > > > > > > > I've no experience with UML, though. Got a pointer to a quick overview? > > > > > >Without a doubt, "UML Distil

Re: RFC 357 (v1) Perl should use XML for documentation instead of POD

2000-10-05 Thread Peter Buckingham
Philip Newton wrote: > On 4 Oct 2000, at 14:06, John Porter wrote: > > > I am of the opinion that any documentation which requires, or at least > > would significantly benefit from, the use of something heavy like SGML > > is best done OUTSIDE THE CODE. There's no reason you can't have > > docum

Re: RFC 357 (v1) Perl should use XML for documentation instead of POD

2000-10-05 Thread Philip Newton
On 4 Oct 2000, at 14:06, John Porter wrote: > I am of the opinion that any documentation which requires, or at least > would significantly benefit from, the use of something heavy like SGML > is best done OUTSIDE THE CODE. There's no reason you can't have > document files accompanying the perl