Re: RFC 99 (v1) Maintain internal time in Modified Julian (not epoch)

2000-08-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Tim Jenness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 14 Aug 2000, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Day resolution is insufficient for most purposes in all the Perl >> scripts I've worked on. I practically never need sub-second precision; >> I almost always need precision better than one day. > MJD allows fractio

Re: RFC 99 (v1) Maintain internal time in Modified Julian (not epoch)

2000-08-14 Thread Tim Jenness
On 14 Aug 2000, Russ Allbery wrote: > Day resolution is insufficient for most purposes in all the Perl scripts > I've worked on. I practically never need sub-second precision; I almost > always need precision better than one day. > MJD allows fractional days (otherwise it would of course be us

Re: RFC 99 (v1) Maintain internal time in Modified Julian (not epoch)

2000-08-14 Thread Damian Conway
> Yes. MacOS and VMS. (Though VMS' localtime() uses the UNIX definition, > just to be portable.) MacOS' epoch zero is 1900 (or was it 1901?), 1904 (if it matters). Damian

Re: RFC 99 (v1) Maintain internal time in Modified Julian (not epoch)

2000-08-14 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> Is Perl currently using different epochs on different platforms? If so, I Yes. MacOS and VMS. (Though VMS' localtime() uses the UNIX definition, just to be portable.) MacOS' epoch zero is 1900 (or was it 1901?), VMS' epoch zero is 17-NOV-1858 00:00:00.00, for some astronomical reason IIRC.

Re: RFC 99 (v1) Maintain internal time in Modified Julian (not epoch)

2000-08-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Nathan Wiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Anyway, it doesn't matter; it's a lot more widely used than any other >> epoch, and epochs are completely arbitrary anyway. What's wrong with >> it? > I think the "What's wrong with it?" part is the wrong approach to this > discussion. That's exactly

Re: RFC 99 (v1) Maintain internal time in Modified Julian (not epoch)

2000-08-14 Thread Nathan Wiger
> Anyway, it doesn't matter; it's a lot more widely used than any other > epoch, and epochs are completely arbitrary anyway. What's wrong with it? I think the "What's wrong with it?" part is the wrong approach to this discussion. Personally, I'm a 100% UNIX head. All I work on is UNIX (thank hea

Re: RFC 102 (v1) Inline Comments for Perl.

2000-08-14 Thread Glenn Linderman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 11:27:35PM -, Perl6 RFC Librarian wrote: > > > >Inline Comments for Perl. > > What relationship does this have to RFC 5 (multiline comments), and > hasn't the discussion of inline comments occurred in detail already? Highly related. But sin

Re: RFC 102 (v1) Inline Comments for Perl.

2000-08-14 Thread skud
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 11:27:35PM -, Perl6 RFC Librarian wrote: > >Inline Comments for Perl. What relationship does this have to RFC 5 (multiline comments), and hasn't the discussion of inline comments occurred in detail already? K. -- Kirrily Robert -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://netiz

Re: RFC 99 (v1) Maintain internal time in Modified Julian (not epoch)

2000-08-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Tim Jenness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Of course, "seconds since 1970" is only obvious to unix systems > programmers. I disagree; I don't think that's been true for a while. It's certainly familiar, if not obvious, to *any* Unix programmer (not just systems programmers), as it's what time()

Re: RFC 99 (v1) Maintain internal time in Modified Julian (not epoch)

2000-08-14 Thread Tim Jenness
On 14 Aug 2000, Russ Allbery wrote: > Nathan Wiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The idea would be twofold: > > >1. time() would still return UNIX epoch time. However, it > > would not be in core, and would not be the primary > > timekeeping method. It would be in Time::Loca

Re: RFC 99 (v1) Maintain internal time in Modified Julian (not epoch)

2000-08-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Nathan Wiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The idea would be twofold: >1. time() would still return UNIX epoch time. However, it > would not be in core, and would not be the primary > timekeeping method. It would be in Time::Local for > compatibility (along with localtime

Re: RFC 99 (v1) Maintain internal time in Modified Julian (not epoch)

2000-08-14 Thread Bryan C . Warnock
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Nathan Wiger wrote: >1. time() would still return UNIX epoch time. However, it > would not be in core, and would not be the primary > timekeeping method. It would be in Time::Local for > compatibility (along with localtime and gmtime). > >2. mjdate(

RE: Proposed enhancement to the warnings pragma for Module writers

2000-08-14 Thread Paul Marquess
From: Simon Cozens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 09:36:48PM -0400, Ronald J Kimball wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 09:04:41PM +0100, Paul Marquess wrote: > > > I'm cc-ing this to p6 because there doesn't seem to be anyone left on p5p. > > Then who is generating all this