Re: [perf-discuss] Poor swap performance

2007-08-22 Thread Peter C. Norton
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 03:05:15PM +0800, Wee Yeh Tan wrote: > On 8/22/07, Peter C. Norton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The swap to zpool idea is very interesting. But this brings up another > > question in the puzzle for us... What is this mythical creature, a > > p

Re: [perf-discuss] Poor swap performance

2007-08-21 Thread Peter C. Norton
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 05:34:38PM +0200, Roch - PAE wrote: > > adrian cockcroft writes: > > Why can't you adapt ZFS for swap? It does the transactional clustering of > > random writes into sequential related blocks, aggressive prefetch on read, > > and would also guard against corrupt blocks i

Re: [perf-discuss] Poor swap performance

2007-08-20 Thread Peter C. Norton
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 05:01:51PM +0200, Roch - PAE wrote: > > Peter C. Norton writes: > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 04:57:05PM -0700, adrian cockcroft wrote: > > > How fast do disks turn? You get one page per revolution. Adding more swap > > > disks would only h

Re: [perf-discuss] Poor swap performance

2007-08-15 Thread Peter C. Norton
On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 04:57:05PM -0700, adrian cockcroft wrote: > How fast do disks turn? You get one page per revolution. Adding more swap > disks would only help if there was more than one thread trying to read the > data. Ultra 1 had a nice fast 7200rpm SCSI disk... > Adrian In an x4100, they

Re: [perf-discuss] Poor swap performance

2007-08-15 Thread Peter C. Norton
On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 05:13:41PM -0700, Prakash Sangappa wrote: > That is an internal link to the bug report. Here is the external link > http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6583268 > > -Prakash. > > Prakash Sangappa wrote: > > Are you running Solaris 10u3+? In that case this probl

Re: [perf-discuss] Poor swap performance

2007-08-15 Thread Peter C. Norton
be random seeks one page at a time. Its been this way > forever. Anything that swaps/pages out will be horribly slow on the way back > in. > Add enough RAM to never swap, or possibly mount a real disk or a solid state > disk for /tmp > > Adrian > > On 8/15/07, Peter C. N

Re: [perf-discuss] Poor swap performance

2007-08-15 Thread Peter C. Norton
On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 04:29:54PM -0400, Jim Mauro wrote: > > What would be interesting here is the paging statistics during your test > case. > What does "vmstat 1", and "vmstat -p 1" look like while your generating > this behavior? > > Is it really case the reading/writing from swap is slow,

[perf-discuss] Poor swap performance

2007-08-15 Thread Peter C. Norton
We use solaris 10 at my company, but I noticed this behavior is the same/worse on sxde, and I wanted to know if someone could test this on a recent nevada build. The problem: We have long used tmpfs for /tmp on systems where we want to provide our uses with a scratch space for them to put small f