FA*24/2.0

Any comments on this lens? Shel

RE: FA*24/2.0

Would like to add, especially in comparison to the K24/2.8 Shel > Any comments on this lens?

RE: tripod quick release and Tiltall

I've an original Tiltall as well. The QR plate, if it's the one i think it is, should work on the original Tiltall. However, it's been a while since i asked about it. Might be best just to send an email to the company and ask straightaway. BTW, since obtaining my Tilt, I discovered that there a

RE: PESO - Toxics

I love it! A classic MarcoPic (tm) Shel > [Original Message] > From: Marco Alpert > http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso22.html

RE: PESO - Mirror Image

Good eye, Bruce! Y'know, while it may not be obvious - and some may not see it as I do - there's a remarkable similarity between your pic and Marco's shot. Glad I logged in this afternoon ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bruce Dayton > Taken on my morning walk. The pattern caught my

RE: The Photographer's Rights

Yes - it was in this country's infancy. Speaking of which, who was the first president of the US? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bob W > you had a month-old president!?

Re: The Photographer's Rights

se you were referring to the Continental Congress -- > Peyton Randolph > (I had to look that one up). > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > >Yes - it was in this country's infancy. > > > >Speaking of which, who was the first president of the US? > >

RE: The Photographer's Rights

Hi Bob ... Nope, it's not a trick question. Think about this for a moment: The country was officially formed on March 1, 1781 with the adoption of The Articles of Confederation. Washington was inaugurated in April of 1789. We were not leaderless during those years before Washington became preside

PAW PESO - Waiting for Ketchup

I was doing some file maintenance this evening when I rediscovered these pics. I don't believe they've been posted here before. Comments welcome ... http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/waiting.html Shel

Re: PAW PESO - Waiting for Ketchup

Yes, it's an M3 - pic taken with an M2 and 35mm Type IV Summicron. Subject sometimes drops in to the PDML. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Paul Stenquist > Hi Shel, > Nice. Fun pics, well captured. Love that Leica. Is it an M3? Do we know > the subject? > > http://home.earthlink.net/~sb

Re: PAW PESO - Waiting for Ketchup

Yes, it is ... surprised you'd remember or make the connection. Shel > [Original Message] > From: David Savage > Is this the same guy who you posted a shot of taken from a high > viewpoint at a museum or art gallery quite some time ago? That shot > has stuck in my memory for some reason :-)

RE: PESO: Sky Fire

I don't care much for fireworks or fireworks pics, but I like this one - the long trail makes it work for me. However, it appears a bit over exposed. Shel > [Original Message] > From: David Savage > This is my first ever fireworks shot, taken about halfway through the > show (I only managed

Re: A couple of PESOs

Your comment leads me to think about adding an extension tube or two to the lens and using it for close-up or macro work. Shel > [Original Message] > From: William Robb > ...after having the lens for almost 2 weeks and not making a > singel exposure with it, I was getting kinda antsy to try i

Another Ques re: istDs

If the camera is set a certain way - such as to shoot in manual mode or aperture priority, or has the meter set to a certain mode, or white balance, sharpening, contrast, etc., does turning the camera off cause the camera to reset to defaults when turned on again, or does the camera retain the sele

Re: Another Ques re: istDs

Main battery? Are there auxiliary bats as well? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Cotty > It should retain selected settings, even if you switch it off and change > the main battery.

Re: Another Ques re: istDs

Is there a list of accessories that are available for the camera posted anywhere? Shel

Re: Another Ques re: istDs

Thanks, Bill ... my old Sony Mavica had that, although the newer Sony doesn't seem to. This battery concept, and turning a camera on/off will certainly take some getting used to. There have been so many times when I've forgotten to turn the 5n off, or forgot to turn it on before trying to use it

Mo' Bits, Mo' Better? (was Re: Another Ques re: istDs)

The D and the Ds have 12-bit sensors and, through the magic of some algorithms or whatnot, by the time the images are converted to a RAW file, they are considered 16-bit files. Some cameras have 14-bit sensors. What kind of improvement might one see when using a camera with a 14-bit sensor compar

Re: PAW thumbnail page

The thumbnail page appears as you've described it on my system. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > The thumbnails page images point to exactly the same pages for each > image as the block display does. The only difference is that the > thumbnails are constrained to be a

RE: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

Ummm ... doesn't the current DS have a 95/95 viewfinder? Doesn't it also offer an 8 frame burst? I suppose other differences between the DS and the DS2 will show up considering these are early, and probably PR generated, comments. The B&W filter may be nice, but I suspect it's only a desaturated

RE: San Francisco

Had you said something about getting into Berkeley, I'd have been glad to meet you and show you around. Berkeley's my "neighborhood." Shel > [Original Message] > From: Gautam Sarup > We didn't make it out to SFO finally (next week now) > and Berkeley on Saturday was wonderful.

RE: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

Paul wrote: > *istDS2 sounds like nothing but a minor upgrade, if that. > It might even be a downgrade based on the price. > Is there anything new about it other than the filters? That's exactly what it is - the DS2, a second version of the same camera. It's got the filters and a larger LCD s

Re: A couple of PESOs

They look it Shel > [Original Message] > From: William Robb > I want to make some prints and see how it looks. I did > a lot of sharpening on the web images.

Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

However, a lot of people have purchased the DS - including people on this list who had the choice between the DS and the D - and for them, and those who are yet to buy a DSLR, it is something better. I was about to buy a DS - planning to do so this coming week or so - but now I'm thinking about th

Re: PESO: Sky Fire

A simple curves adjustment improves things considerably. Shel > [Original Message] > From: David Savage > Makes me think of a palm tree. > > Your right, it is over exposed. I was so rushed I left the camera in > aperture priority with +0.5 stops of exposure compensation dialed in > from earli

Re: Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

bject: Re: Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax > > > > > > From: "Shel Belinkoff" > > However, a lot of people have purchased the DS - including people on this > > list who had the choice between the DS and the D - and for them, and those > > wh

RE: catch-light panel

I never heard of such a thing. What is it for? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Igor Roshchin > Can someone, please, explain briefly how the catch-light panel > is designed? > I know what it is for, but couldn't find the explanation how > it works.

Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

Maybe just shaking hands ... Shel > [Original Message] > From: Cotty > A happy Pentax customer! Can this be true? We should have him stuffed and > mounted :-)

Re: catch-light panel

Christian wrote: > It is a flash accessory, Shel. > > These are things you don't care about > Thank you. You're right, although I find the concept interesting based on other comments in this thread. Is there some significance to the "jedi_mind_trick" reference? I don't make a connection to

Re: catch-light panel

t; > > - Original Message - > From: "Shel Belinkoff" > Subject: Re: catch-light panel > > > > Christian wrote: > > > >> It is a flash accessory, Shel. > >> > >> These are things you don't care about > >> >

Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$

Hmmm ... just a thought, although it would probably never happen - perhaps Nikon, Pentax, Konica-Minolta can put together a consortium and start making their own chips. Auto companies often share technology and sometimes work together to produce product, so why not these camera companies? It woul

What Would Make a DSLR "Obsolete"?

As the time approaches for my purchasing a DSLR, the comments about these cameras becoming obsolete keep running through my mind. As a user of older film bodies, which don't become obsolete and which continue to make good pictures and use a wide variety of lenses, it's hard to consider that in six

RE: Why full frame?

Hello Kevin ... We must have very different standards or you must be performing some digital magic. I've seen a few 16" x 20" prints made from an istD, and they looked very soft. I'd also seen the same print in a smaller size (10x13 or so?) which looked quite good - sharp and detailed - so I kno

Re: What Would Make a DSLR "Obsolete"?

How might that be, except by film being discontinued or there being no one who could repair them? Shel ERN wrote: > (of course there are ways your older film cameras could become > obsolete, too; it's not that they "don't" become obsolete, it's that > yours -- and mine -- haven't done so yet)

Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$

To be fair, a lot of standard lenses have similar problems on film-based cameras - light fall off, softness at certain apertures, softness in corners, and just being plain crap. That begs the question: is it the lens or the lens when used in combination with a FF sensor? Even Pentax (GASP!) has pr

RE: PESO s

Hi Bob ... you're gonna get the hang of using the new camera pretty soon, it seems. Practice, practice, practice. Seems that you like the DS - do you see it as replacing film for you? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bob Sullivan > To complement comments made about taking 900+ pix with the

Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$

Huh? Why is it easier to inspect technical quality with digital than with film? Why would a digi photog inspect the results "more severely"?I'd think any serious photog would be concerned about the technical quality of his/her lenses to the same degree regardless of using film or digital. Shel

Large Print Quality From 6mp Cameras (was: )

When I see such a print that meets my standards using the technique you've described, I'll believe it. I've not seen anything approaching a 16x20 or larger made from a 6mp Pentax camera that qualifies as "stunning" by my standards. I know that there are plug-ins and software that supposedly provid

RE: PESO - Big Ben

Bear in mind that this pic seems to have been taken in the evening - note the lighted lamp post. I like the idea that the clock tower is in deep shadow, although, on my monitor, it and the surrounding buildings look a little dark. If there were any adjustment to the shadows it would be very minim

Re: "Stunning" at 24x36 inches?

Indeed ... being hit over the head with a 2x4 could be considered stunning. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > "Stunning" is not a particularly precise measure of quality. > Perhaps all of you can become a little more specific? > > Godfrey

RE: "Sunning" at 24x36 inches?

While I am skeptical about the quality of large prints made with a 6mp camera, I have seen the quality of the results made from 35mm negatives that others thought were "impossible." There is a lab here that does incredible work, and which uses only the highest quality equipment and the most talent

Re: What Would Make a DSLR "Obsolete"?

Hey, Cotty ... I've seen your prints. I must admit that I was stunned ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > >I only do limited-edition fine art prints myself. > > Hey, same here. > > Except mine are stunning.

Re: What Would Make a DSLR "Obsolete"?

You've still got some of that left pffft! I'm jealous! Shel > John Francis wrote: > I doubt if I'll be using it for those shots where I consider > I might want more than an 8x10, but there again I don't really > use it for that today - I pull out the MZ-S and grab a roll of > Royal Gold

Re: What Would Make a DSLR "Obsolete"?

Excuses, excuses Hey, I was just yanking your chain. I liked all three pics Shel > [Original Message] > From: Cotty Shel Belinkoff, not at all discombobulated, carefully considered and commented: > >Hey, Cotty ... I've seen your prints. I must admit t

Re: 36mm x 36mm sensor?

Hmmm ... the site says that the image size is 132 MByte 16 bit RGB That's about the same size I get when scanning a 35mm color neg with the Nikon Coolscan. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Vic Mortelmans > I don't know much about sensor technology, but Hasselblad seems to have > very l

Re: "Stunning" at 24x36 inches?

I'll let you know when the print arrives. Perhaps we can meet in SF and you can see it, and we'll take it from there. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > I'd be most interested to see Cameron's image *and* hear Shel's > opinion. Like others, I want first hand experience of

istDS Flash Question

Yikes! Belinkoff is asking a question about flash?!? What's the world coming to? Well, actually I'm asking a question about not using flash. Can flash use be turned off absolutely with the istDS? My concern is that there may be some circumstances where the camera will decide flash is appropria

RE: Survey: Your Most Unusual Shot

> [Original Message] LET'S DO A SURVEY!!! > Q. What is the most unusual subject matter you have ever shot? > The most unique? Or the weirdest? Or simply the subject matter > that you have had the hardest time "capturing" (either because it > was hard to get to, or timing, or movement, or wha

Re: Film scanner question

That's one of the reasons I bought the Nikon. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > Reports on the MInolta 5400 have been good, but reports on the 5400 > II have not been. I know at least two people who were disappointed > enough in the 5400 II model that they returned it an

B&W Filter in DS2

Does anyone have an idea how the B&W filter in the istDS2 might work? The various Sony cameras I've used allows for B&W, but the results seem to be little more than desaturated RGB - in fact, the files show up as RGB type files when edited in PS, and the B&W results aren't particularly good, showi

RE: PESO - (OT) Captive

Nicely observed ... a good CottySnap ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > From: Cotty > I found this quite poignant. > >

BUYDIG.COM

If you've recently purchased gear from BUYDIG.COM, how did the transaction go? Anyone have any complaints or problems? Thanks! Shel

Re: BUYDIG.COM

Thanks to everyone who commented about buydig's service and for assuaging my concerns. Shel

istDS RAW File Size

About ten or eleven MB, give or take a little? Shel

Re: istDS RAW File Size

Tks, Brian ... Shel > [Original Message] > From: Brian Walters > > About ten or eleven MB, give or take a little? > > > > > > > Yeahabout that.

Re: CR-V3 rechargeables

>From Steve's digital camera site: "Pentax recommends against the use of rechargeable CR-V3 (aka RCR-V3) type batteries because some manufacturer's batteries put out too much voltage, i.e. 3.7v versus the 3v delivered by one-use CR-V3 lithium cells." Shel > [Original Message] > From: Leon Alt

Pancakes for Breakfast

Is anyone using the new 40mm lens? Comments, pics would be appreciated. Tks! Shel

Re: CR-V3 rechargeables

Sheesh! 250 exposures a day is a lot. Over the course of an 8 hour day, that's more than one exposure every two minutes, assuming you don't break for lunch, afternoon tea, or go to the bathroom. And on a busy day that works out to be closer to one per minute, not considering breaks. Shel > [

Re: CR-V3 rechargeables

An exposure every 12 seconds or so doesn't seem like much thought went into composition or framing ... but then, I can see the desire to shoot a lot and shoot fast in some circumstances. Speaking only for myself, a slower approach often seems to work better. Anyway, there's a difference between a

RE: Advice needed - Developing TRIX 400 35mm

No one can tell you that with any certainty, and certainly without an understanding of the lighting conditions. A good source for some approximate times to get you started can be found here: http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.html Read the very first paragraph and take that as an absolute trut

Re: CR-V3 rechargeables

If you reread my message you'll see that I wasn't quoting you ... my comments referenced a message by Godfrey. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Boris Liberman > > Sheesh! 250 exposures a day is a lot. Over the course of an 8 hour day, > > that's more than one exposure every two minutes, as

Re: CR-V3 rechargeables

You're quoting me out of context John. I've done the same thing plenty of times. Shel > [Original Message] > From: John Francis > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 11:15:00AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > An exposure every 12 seconds or so doesn't seem like much

RE: B&W On A DSLR

Hi Joe ... No. Not when shooting in a color mode. Godfrey is correct in suggesting that the best way to "shoot" B&W on a digital camera that doesn't offer a B&W mode is to make the corrections in post processing. The problem with using post processing techniques is that the results don't follow

Re: B&W On A DSLR

I don't think we're really disagreeing, just describing the same thing a little differently. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > I wouldn't say that "colors and tonality are converted > arbitrarily" ... rather, I spent a great deal of time learning how to > use Curves, HS

RE: PESO:Another Thinker

Rather soft and muted looking ... maybe that's what you want, but the lack of contrast and sharpness seems to work against the photo, which is rather interesting otherwise. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Tim Øsleby > Enough background, here is the link to the picture: > http://foto.no/cgi-

Re: PESO -- Cruising is Serious Business

Agreed ... Shel > [Original Message] > From: Boris Liberman > > http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_cisb.html > ... on my monitor it appears rather > non-sharp... I don't see a single sharp object here :-(.

Re: Pancakes for Breakfast

says the focal length is odd. 28 and 50 > work for her, with 40 she seemingly cannot take any good pictures. > > No pics online to show you, sorry. But if we get together on or after > October maybe I can bring it with me. If she is still not using it by > then maybe she'll sell i

Re: Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

I'm really not one to tread the upgrade path frequently, or take that path without careful thought. FWIW, I still use Win 95 and Lotus 123 v2.01 (a program I purchased in 1988 or 1989) on my old computer - works just fine for my needs ;-)) Thanks, John Shel > [Original Message] > From: J

Re: Pancakes for Breakfast

Hmmm that may make it unsatisfactory on the DS as well. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > ... however, it does not have an aperture > ring so it would be unsatisfactory on, say, the MX body since it > would only operate at f/22 or some such without body control of

Re: Pancakes for Breakfast

e able to use all the DS' capabilities. Why would that be > unsatisfactory?? > > Godfrey > > > On Aug 25, 2005, at 11:14 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > Hmmm that may make it unsatisfactory on the DS as well. > > > >> ... however, it does not have

Re: Pancakes for Breakfast

Oh, I didn't know that. Don't recall ever hearing of such a thing. That might be kinda neat ... or not. Worth trying, anyway. Shel > [Original Message] > From: William Robb > - Original Message ----- > From: "Shel Belinkoff" > Subject: Re: Pancakes f

RE: OT: Cheesy song remakes

And you've the nerve to attach your name, address, and phone to this You've ruined my morning coffee! Shel > [Original Message] > From: Daniel J. Matyola > Some cheesy song remakes: > > "Inna-Gouda-Vel-Veeta" > > "Let it Brie" > > "Ricotta Get Out of This Place" > > "Cheeses Christ Super

RE: Canon/Nikon/Tamron

A more correct word would be apparent, not obvious ... sheesh! Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bob Shell > > On Friday, August 26, 2005, at 08:49 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > > Informed sources whose jobs would be in > > danger if they were named. But > > also anyone who's worked in a came

Re: Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes

No need to disparage the Neanderthal Shel > [Original Message] > From: William Robb > Fortunately, Joe and his wife are, for the most part, beer swilling > semi-neanderthals who are not literate enough to figure out how to run a > computer.

Re: Pancakes for Breakfast

seemed to provide. It'll fun to experiment with this feature. Shel > [Original Message] > From: William Robb > - Original Message - > From: "Shel Belinkoff" > Subject: Re: Pancakes for Breakfast > > > > Oh, I didn't know that. Don'

Re: Pancakes for Breakfast

Hi Bruce - I never noticed the barrel distortion on my 43mm. Maybe it's the different types of photos we make, maybe I just wasn't looking for it. I now regret having sold it ... IAC, the 40mm won't work on the manual cameras I have, and it would be nice to have optics that will work across both

Re: Pancakes for Breakfast

Is that the wheel on the back of the camera, below and to the left of the AE-L button? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > > DS: > > In Manual exposure mode on the, the thumbwheel wheel controls both > aperture and shutter speed. Turned by itself, set shutter speeds from >

Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes

My experience in this regard is small - dealing only with my family and friends. My sister used to shoot a roll of film every now and then, and get prints made and send them to me and other family members. Now she has an inexpensive canon digi, and she uses email to send her photos. No film, no

RE: The Nature of Film's Final Throes

A local supermarket manager once told me that even though the cheap little lab doesn't make much money - some months none - it keeps the customers in the store shopping while waiting for their prints. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 8/26/2005 12:46:26

Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes

Maybe our market here is different, but many of our more than 100 screens in the area are showing movies digitally. One small example: http://www.indiewire.com/biz/biz_050316land.html Shel > From: "P. J. Alling" > > There are hundreds of thousands of movie theaters which still have 35mm >

Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes

Nope - many - quite a number - more than a couple - of the screens around here are using digital projection. Shel > [Original Message] > From: John Francis > I wouldn't say it's got to "many" yet - I'd expect only a handful of > digital projectors (there's currently just one in San Jose).

RE: PESO - Videography

Hi Marco ... This is not one of my favorites of yours, but it sure shows off your style and technique, which, regardless of the photo, I always enjoy. I've given some thought to what it is I like about your pics, and have concluded that it's their uncluttered, spare look. Perhaps in part it's yo

Re: Pancakes for Breakfast

Just curious ... can the aperture be set between stops, like between 2.8 and 3.5, or can the camera do that automagically? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > In Manual exposure mode on the, the thumbwheel wheel controls both > aperture and shutter speed. Turned by itself,

I should know this ...

.. but I'm drawing a blank. How many megabytes are there in a gigabyte? (The world before morning coffee is very dark, indeed) Shel

Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes

That's pretty neat. What size do you mostly print - 4x6 or so? JPEG or TIFF? How do you get paid? Shel > [Original Message] > From: William Robb > We are now seeing a lot of pictures that are being uploaded to our server > from other parts of the country to be printed and picked up by loc

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #2034

Actually, it can be even purchased at a couple of places for about $100.00 less than that. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bertil Holmberg > > What about the US then? I noticed that the DS can be had for $650

RE: PESO - Yet another of my London sketches

Hello Boris ... This is very similar to one of my recent photos, so naturally I like the idea ;-)) Unfortunately, the framing or cropping leaves something to be desired. The angle of the bench lessens the impact of the photo and creates an unneeded and unwelcome tension in what would have been a

RE: PAW: Navigating Chinatown

Sorry, Frank ... it does nothing for me. This type of work seems to have become your forte, like the signature main course at a frequently visited restaurant. It's nice every now and then, but after a while it's time to try something else on the menu. Personally, I'd like to see some more photos

RE: PESO: Yong Fortune Teller

This may be a case where the wrong medium was used. Considering the relatively limited range of contemporary digital capture (at least in the APS format), using a digi to catch the tonality of the scene may have just flat out been a mistake. With B&W, for example, the burnt out highlights could

Re: Peso: Two from the football game

That fake turf seems so appropriate with "digital capture" #2 is an OK pic, Bill ... although the burn out whites in the player's uniform and shoes are somewhat annoying. Shel > [Original Message] > From: William Robb > http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/football/_IGP9054.html > http

Ordered the DS this Morning

This morning I ordered an istDS. I'd like to thank EVERYONE who, over the past couple of weeks or so, has replied to my many questions about the camera and how various features and lenses work. I've thanked a few people off list, and this is to cover any I may have missed. I'm excitedly looking

Re: Back home, bad news...

Sorry to hear of your trials and tribulations. Hang in there and good luck in keeping the repair/replacemrnt costs reasonable. Shel > As I mentioned in my last message, I left home to the Aeolian > Islands on the 13th. I'm not the kind of guy who believes much > in luck, but that number's fame

RE: Tutorials on B&W conversion

Channel Mixer is NOT the right tool. It is just one of many tools and techniques used to make B&W conversions. One technique that's highly recommended is the Double Hue Saturation technique, and Juan has posted a nice tutorial here as well. But again, these are just a few of the many possibiliti

Re: Ordered the DS this Morning

Nothing "wrong" with the 12~24 that I know of. I just didn't need the info since the lens is familiar to me. No need for a half dozen people mentioning it when there may be other lenses, unknown to me, that are worth considering. Shel > [Original Message] > From:

Re: Ordered the DS this Morning

Thanks, J. I know some good work can be done with the camera, and people like you, Bruce, Godfrey, and others, have helped me make the move by showing me that digi is just another type of film ;-)) Actually, the decline in the quality of the work done by many color labs has also contributed to th

Re: Ordered the DS this Morning

Am I going to need good luck with this camera? Shel > [Original Message] > From: P. J. Alling > Good luck Shel, you'll probably enjoy it. > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > >This morning I ordered an istDS.

Re: Ordered the DS this Morning

My understanding is that it's not available in a Pentax mount. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Adam Maas > Widest is probably the recently introduced Sigma 10-20mm Zoom. > > -Adam > > BTW, what's the widest lens currently available for this camera, Pentax or > > otherwise? No need to men

Re: Ordered the DS this Morning

I'd like to believe that ;-)). This is a grand experiment. Thanks! On a somewhat vaguely related topic, may I suggest Ricky Jay's book, "Learned Pigs and Fireproof Women." Shel > [Original Message] > From: Doug Brewer > > In a related story, hell has completely frozen over and pigs were se

Re: Ordered the DS this Morning

I don't want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member Shel > [Original Message] > From: Igor Roshchin > Welcome to the club! :-) > > Igor

Re: Ordered the DS this Morning

mera may be hard to come by soon, what with the intro of the DS2 and the DL. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Shel Belinkoff > Date: 8/29/2005 1:14:38 PM > Subject: Re: Ordered the DS this Morning > > > This morning I ordered an is

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