Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-30 Thread Adam Maas
John Sessoms wrote: > From: > Adam Maas >> Not just that, but he's the worst sort of Authoritarian Nanny-Stater. >> A complete 'if it isn't specifically permitted it must be denied type'. > I believe the standard is ... "Anything not compulsory is forbidden!" > >> I hope to hell he doesn't run fo

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-30 Thread John Sessoms
From: Adam Maas > Not just that, but he's the worst sort of Authoritarian Nanny-Stater. > A complete 'if it isn't specifically permitted it must be denied type'. I believe the standard is ... "Anything not compulsory is forbidden!" > I hope to hell he doesn't run for President. I'd rather have Na

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-30 Thread John Sessoms
From: Wilko Bulte > Well, if you watch the tele and see the British paparazzi haunt the > rich and famous there is a certain point to protecting people's right to > privacy. Think I'm gonna' have to take sides with Mercutio on that one - "A plague o' both your houses!" -- PDML Pentax-Discuss M

RE: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-30 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Digital Image Studio" > City May Seek Permit and Insurance for Many Kinds of Public Photography > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/nyregion/29camera.html?ei=5090&en=71135caff6fefe6a&ex=1340769600&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print > > > > "New rules being considered by the May

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-30 Thread Amita Guha
I have my own bone to pick with the guy, since parts of my corner of Queens had a blackout for a week last year, and not only did he do nothing about it, he never held the electric company accountable. If that's the way he acts in a crisis, imagine what he'd do with something like another Hurricane

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 29, 2007, at 11:18 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > On 30/06/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> When they arrest me for doing my flavor of street photography, I'll >> let you know how the case goes in court. > > How many of you are there? Well, the other day there were si

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 30/06/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When they arrest me for doing my flavor of street photography, I'll > let you know how the case goes in court. How many of you are there? -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread David Mann
On Jun 30, 2007, at 3:20 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: > Actually, that isn't as scary as it sounds... > It's aimed at film and TV crews mainly - not a single person with a > camera hand held, > and, I"m sure not news folk... I never trust the intent of a law. That's just the sales pitch. What mat

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
When they arrest me for doing my flavor of street photography, I'll let you know how the case goes in court. G On Jun 29, 2007, at 6:21 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > City May Seek Permit and Insurance for Many Kinds of Public > Photography > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/nyregion/

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Kenneth Waller
> What part of the city do you live in??? Graywolf lives in a very southern part of the city. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Norm Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC > What part of the city do

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Norm Baugher
What part of the city do you live in??? Norm graywolf wrote: > Hey man, that is NYC, folks strip cars on the street and the cops walk right > by them. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC > On 6/29/07, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Likely that will be the case most often. But I expect rentacops to use >> this propo

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread graywolf
Hey man, that is NYC, folks strip cars on the street and the cops walk right by them. NYC has lots of laws, only a few of them seem to get enforced. If fact, I am pretty sure that NYC already has a law requiring a permit for any photo/film/video operation that obstructs traffic, vehicle or pedes

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Adam Maas
frank theriault wrote: > On 6/29/07, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Likely that will be the case most often. But I expect rentacops to use this >> proposed law on a regular basis to try and prevent people from shooting >> buildings legally. > > That law won't give renta cops any m

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread mike wilson
William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Adam Maas" > Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC > > > > >>>I blame the French. > > >>On this point you may be correct. France is at the forefront of

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Norm Baugher
Well, if that were the case, they'd be arresting hundreds of people every day outside my office. We did have a jumper a couple months ago, the press were there and all I heard the cops tell them was to check with the commanding officer before they could cross the tape... Norm frank theriault wr

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb
On 6/29/07, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Likely that will be the case most often. But I expect rentacops to use this > proposed law on a regular basis to try and prevent people from shooting > buildings legally. > They already try to do it illegally. Give them a law allowing it and yo

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread frank theriault
On 6/29/07, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Likely that will be the case most often. But I expect rentacops to use this > proposed law on a regular basis to try and prevent people from shooting > buildings legally. That law won't give renta cops any more power than they have now - which

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb
On 6/29/07, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 10:57:14AM -0400, Adam Maas wrote.. I was watching something about that on, I believe, Slice the other day. Elliot Erwitt was one of the interviewees. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail Lis

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Adam Maas
frank theriault wrote: > On 6/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This suggested legislation is in response to pros shooting ads and editorial >> without permits. It happens a lot in New York and sometimes causes problems >> with traffic and/or crowds. I doubt that a wandering

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread frank theriault
On 6/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This suggested legislation is in response to pros shooting ads and editorial > without permits. It happens a lot in New York and sometimes causes problems > with traffic and/or crowds. I doubt that a wandering group of PDMLers would > ex

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 12:49:24PM -0400, John Francis wrote.. > On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 05:51:49PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > Well, if you watch the tele and see the British paparazzi haunt the > > rich and famous there is a certain point to protecting people's right to > > privacy. > >

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread frank theriault
On 6/29/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 29/6/07, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >On this point you may be correct. France is at the forefront of > >ridiculous restrictions on photographers, having essentially made Street > >Photography illegal. As far as I'm aware (and please

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/6/07, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: >On this point you may be correct. France is at the forefront of >ridiculous restrictions on photographers, having essentially made Street >Photography illegal. Loada bollocks. I go to France. I shoot pics in the street. I don't get arrested. Th

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 08:43:58AM -0600, William Robb wrote: > > The problem with legislators is that they have to legislate things in order > to justify themselves. The big stuff has been taken care of for decades, so > now all that is left is parsing minutae. Indeed. An example, here in Cal

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 05:51:49PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > Well, if you watch the tele and see the British paparazzi haunt the > rich and famous there is a certain point to protecting people's right to > privacy. Why just pick on the British paparazzi? Have you seen the scrum around, say,

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread P. J. Alling
;>> - Original Message - >>> From: "David Savage" >>> Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> The sky isn't falling, the earth is rising. >>>> >>>

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Adam Maas
Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 10:57:14AM -0400, Adam Maas wrote.. >> William Robb wrote: >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "David Savage" >>> Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC >>> >>>

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread David J Brooks
On 6/29/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "P. J. Alling" > Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC > > > > Just don't take photographs of any person without their permission in &g

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Wilko Bulte
. Even if there is no legal requirement to do so I would call it impolite to take their picture without asking first. Wilko > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 07:50:43AM -0600, William Robb wrote.. > > > >> - Original Message ----- > >> Fro

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 09:24:54AM -0600, William Robb wrote.. > > - Original Message - > From: "Adam Maas" > Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC > > > > >> > >> I blame the French. > > > > >

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 10:57:14AM -0400, Adam Maas wrote.. > William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "David Savage" > > Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC > > > > > > > >> The sky is

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC >> >> I blame the French. > > On this point you may be correct. France is at the forefront of ridiculous > restrictions on photographers, having esse

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread David J Brooks
On 6/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This suggested legislation is in response to pros shooting ads and editorial > without permits. It happens a lot in New York and sometimes causes problems > with traffic and/or crowds. I doubt that a wandering group of PDMLers would > ex

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC > Just don't take photographs of any person without their permission in > France... Or buildings that are lit by artificial light, or have been built within the la

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread ann sanfedele
Digital Image Studio wrote: >City May Seek Permit and Insurance for Many Kinds of Public Photography > >http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/nyregion/29camera.html?ei=5090&en=71135caff6fefe6a&ex=1340769600&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print > >"New rules being considered by the Mayor's Offi

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread P. J. Alling
Just don't take photographs of any person without their permission in France... Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 07:50:43AM -0600, William Robb wrote.. > >> - Original Message - >> From: >> Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Adam Maas
Not just that, but he's the worst sort of Authoritarian Nanny-Stater. A complete 'if it isn't specifically permitted it must be denied type'. I hope to hell he doesn't run for President. I'd rather have Nader or Trent Lott in power down there (and I despise both of those individuals). -Adam P.

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "David Savage" > Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC > > > >> The sky isn't falling, the earth is rising. >> >> I blame global warming. >> > >

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Wilko Bulte" Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC > You can still seek asylum in Europe. I've been shooting, tripod and all, > lots of public buildings in Berlin, even inside the main trainstation, > federal bui

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread P. J. Alling
Did anyone mention that Mayor Bloomberg is, (if you'll pardon the expression), an a**h***. Digital Image Studio wrote: > City May Seek Permit and Insurance for Many Kinds of Public Photography > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/nyregion/29camera.html?ei=5090&en=71135caff6fefe6a&ex=1340769600&p

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC > > The sky isn't falling, the earth is rising. > > I blame global warming. > I blame the French. WW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pd

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 07:50:43AM -0600, William Robb wrote.. > > - Original Message - > From: > Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC > > > > This suggested legislation is in response to pros shooting ads and > > editorial without pe

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread David Savage
On 6/29/07, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 29/06/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is another example of the creeping horseshit that is permeating > > society, and another small freedom falling unnoticed by the wayside. > > Soon, we won't have any small fr

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Digital Image Studio" Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC > So the sky is or isn't falling? ;-) In some parts of North America, it is definitely getting closer to the ground... William Robb -- PDML Pentax

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >This suggested legislation is in response to pros shooting ads and >editorial without permits. It happens a lot in New York and sometimes >causes problems with traffic and/or crowds. I doubt that a wandering >group of PDMLers would experience any problems. Perhaps not.

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 29/06/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is another example of the creeping horseshit that is permeating > society, and another small freedom falling unnoticed by the wayside. > Soon, we won't have any small freedoms left. So the sky is or isn't falling? ;-) -- Rob Studdert H

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC > This suggested legislation is in response to pros shooting ads and > editorial without permits. It happens a lot in New York and sometimes > causes problems with traffic and/or crowds. I d

Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread pnstenquist
This suggested legislation is in response to pros shooting ads and editorial without permits. It happens a lot in New York and sometimes causes problems with traffic and/or crowds. I doubt that a wandering group of PDMLers would experience any problems. Paul -- Original message