Re: PMA announcements

2009-03-03 Thread AlunFoto
I'd go for the implants now. Then you'll have something to tear out over future announcements. :-) Jostein 2009/3/2 Miserere : > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:21 PM, .timber>>code wrote: >> Cheers list, >> >> Two announcements from Pentax: >> The already known bridge: >> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0

Re: PMA announcements

2009-03-02 Thread Miserere
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:21 PM, .timber>>code wrote: > Cheers list, > > Two announcements from Pentax: > The already known bridge: > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0903/09030204pentax70superzoom.asp > > And the 15mm/f4 > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0903/09030203pentaxx15mm.asp > > Regards, > t > T

RE: PMA announcements

2009-03-02 Thread Bob W
> I've been holding off on a new body until I found out what the next > generation [...] would be like. when you're a balding middle-aged straight guy you don't care what your body's like, cause all the youngsters look damned good. > On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 11:21:14PM +0100, .timber>>code wrote

Re: PMA announcements

2009-03-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 11:21:14PM +0100, .timber>>code wrote: # Cheers list, # # Two announcements from Pentax: # The already known bridge: # http://www.dpreview.com/news/0903/09030204pentax70superzoom.asp # # And the 15mm/f4 # http://www.dpreview.com/news/0903/09030203pentaxx15mm.asp I've been

Re: PMA Brisbane. my personal thoughts

2008-05-31 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 09:15:57 +1000, "james Bradford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Crkennedy stand had pentax camera's in one desk and had to ask to look > and play. AT least Samsung made a good effort. Cr didn't do a > very good job. Seems like nothing's changed, then. Cheers Brian ++

Re: PMA: Is this a joke ?

2007-03-08 Thread Thibouille
They'd better. I still wouldn't trust Sigma, even as an OEM contractor. 2007/3/8, Ralf R. Radermacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sigma? OK I see what I have to think about quality control then. > > Not quite. The lenses are checked in Solms. > > Ralf > > --

Re: PMA: Is this a joke ?

2007-03-08 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sigma? OK I see what I have to think about quality control then. Not quite. The lenses are checked in Solms. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - up

Re: PMA: Is this a joke ?

2007-03-08 Thread Thibouille
Sigma? OK I see what I have to think about quality control then. 2007/3/8, Ralf R. Radermacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Leica probably know how to make those lens with quality ... > > They *make* none of this. The making is done by Sigma. > > Ralf > > --

Re: PMA: Is this a joke ?

2007-03-08 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Leica probably know how to make those lens with quality ... They *make* none of this. The making is done by Sigma. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo gallerie

Re: PMA: Is this a joke ?

2007-03-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't think it's a joke. Leica's joining the 21st century. The Leica brand as already been on P&S cameras, this is a step up IMHO. Thibouille wrote: > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0703/07030704leica14-150mm.asp > > Leica producing that kind of lens? Huh Smells brand image depreciation to me.

Re: PMA: Is this a joke ?

2007-03-07 Thread Thibouille
Mmm weird but I agree the lens seems pretty OK. Leica probably know how to make those lens with quality (as far as quality can be met with such lenses) but I dunno why I have a strange feeling when looking at lenses like that from Leica. Compact zooms are one thing. Reflex lenses is something els

Re: PMA: Is this a joke ?

2007-03-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 7, 2007, at 10:49 PM, Thibouille wrote: > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0703/07030704leica14-150mm.asp > Leica producing that kind of lens? Huh Smells brand image > depreciation to me. Leica has been designing 12:1 zoom lenses for cameras bearing Panasonic and Leica names for several y

Re: PMA

2006-02-26 Thread Bob Shell
Not to leave out the competition, here is the other company that produces a PMA Daily. I note that one of their reporters predicts Sony will show a DSLR with Carl Zeiss lenses. http://www.photoreporter.com/ Bob

Re: PMA- no new body?!?

2005-03-15 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:26:45 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, we can't sell the little guys anymore, we have to do something > with them. I wonder how many on this list ~really~ got that one, Bill? Let's see, how many Canadians are there? BTW, I find it heartwarming

Re: PMA- no new body?!?

2005-03-15 Thread Peter J. Alling
Now I wish I'd said that... Cotty wrote: Only yours :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sid

Re: PMA- no new body?!?

2005-03-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tan and Steve" Subject: RE: PMA- no new body?!? Calf implants?! I know how cyclists like to display their muscles... hehe. Well, we can't sell the little guys anymore, we have to do something with them. William Robb

Re: PMA- no new body?!?

2005-03-15 Thread Cotty
Only yours :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

RE: PMA- no new body?!?

2005-03-14 Thread Tan and Steve
3:44 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PMA- no new body?!? - Original Message - From: "Tan and Steve" Subject: PMA- no new body?!? > > Did I miss something...? > I think Frank mentioned he was getting implants. WW

Re: PMA- no new body?!?

2005-03-14 Thread David Savage
Given the results of the recent brain test he's having one implanted :-) Dave S On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:43:52 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Tan and Steve" > Subject: PMA- no new body?!? > > > > > Did I miss something...? > > > > I thi

Re: PMA- no new body?!?

2005-03-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Peter J. Alling" Subject: Re: PMA- no new body?!? I thought he was having them removed... Perhaps just relocated. William Robb

Re: PMA- no new body?!?

2005-03-14 Thread Peter J. Alling
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Tan and Steve" Subject: PMA- no new body?!? Did I miss something...? I think Frank mentioned he was getting implants. WW I thought he was having them removed... -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to

Re: PMA- no new body?!?

2005-03-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tan and Steve" Subject: PMA- no new body?!? Did I miss something...? I think Frank mentioned he was getting implants. WW

RE: PMA- no new body?!?

2005-03-14 Thread Tan and Steve
ralia www.tanyamayer.com Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549 Mobile +61 0437831247 -Original Message- From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 15 March 2005 3:40 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PMA- no new body?!? Yep, Big Big news read about it here *http://tinyur

Re: PMA- no new body?!?

2005-03-14 Thread Peter J. Alling
Yep, Big Big news read about it here *http://tinyurl.com/5q6mw* Tan and Steve wrote: Did I miss something or was there no exciting announcements at PMA as the list anticipated? tan. :) Tanya Mayer Photography Brisbane, Qld, Australia www.tanyamayer.com Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549 Mobile +61 0437831247

Re: PMA processing survey

2004-08-12 Thread jtainter
Interesting that 35 mm. SLRs are 25% of unit volume, but 54% of dollar value. Perhaps we have been too pessimistic about the future of film SLRs, and film to put in them. It's possible that 35 mm. SLRs and 35 mm. film may be among the last to go. Joe

Re: PMA processing survey

2004-08-12 Thread Mark Roberts
"Butch Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark wrote: > >This is being watched with interest by everyone. Eckerd pharmacies last >year pledged to eventually put a Fuji Frontier lab in each one of their >stores. Eckerd has since been bought (by J.C. Penney, IIRC) and it'll be >interesting to see if

Re: PMA processing survey

2004-08-12 Thread Butch Black
Mark wrote: This is being watched with interest by everyone. Eckerd pharmacies last year pledged to eventually put a Fuji Frontier lab in each one of their stores. Eckerd has since been bought (by J.C. Penney, IIRC) and it'll be interesting to see if they hold to this plan. I'm betting they cut it

Re: PMA processing survey

2004-08-12 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Interesting read, thanks for sharing Butch. Digital is a disrupting technology. Interesting to see is the decrease of digital camera sales between 1 and 3 MP. I wonder how long film will be available everywhere, together with processing. On Thursday 12 August 2004 03:46, Butch Black wrote: FJW>

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-03-05 Thread ernreed2
> This is just asking for a wise ass answer. But I'll leave that to someone > else, > (for a change). > > At 07:33 AM 3/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >"How is this to be pronounced? "Star-ist"?" > > > >Since it takes K-mount lenses, I say, "Star-Kist." Sorry, Charlie.

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-03-05 Thread Butch Black
This is just asking for a wise ass answer. But I'll leave that to someone else, (for a change). At 07:33 AM 3/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: >"How is this to be pronounced? "Star-ist"?" > >Since it takes K-mount lenses, I say, "Star-Kist." SORRY CHARLIE ! BUTCH Each man had only one genuine voca

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-03-05 Thread Peter Alling
This is just asking for a wise ass answer. But I'll leave that to someone else, (for a change). At 07:33 AM 3/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: "How is this to be pronounced? "Star-ist"?" Since it takes K-mount lenses, I say, "Star-Kist." Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a d

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-03-05 Thread Peter Alling
The * is silent. At 02:05 PM 2/18/2003 -0500, you wrote: > They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" SLR > *ist. Nothing for us... How is this to be pronounced? "Star-ist"? Then, can I use my A* lenses on it?"A-star-ist"? Fred Outside of a dog, a book is man's best fr

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-03-05 Thread Fred
>> They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" >> SLR *ist. Nothing for us... > How is this to be pronounced? "Star-ist"? > Then, can I use my A* lenses on it?"A-star-ist"? Wow - talk about a slow message. When I was reading this, I didn't even recognize at first that

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-03-05 Thread Fred
> They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" SLR > *ist. Nothing for us... How is this to be pronounced? "Star-ist"? Then, can I use my A* lenses on it?"A-star-ist"? Fred

Re: PMA 2003 PENTAX

2003-03-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
t;Pål Jensen" WR> Subject: Re: PMA 2003 PENTAX >> Frits wrote: >> >> > Hum... first they buy the *ist, and then later the *ist D? >> >> Unfortunately, the usual Pentax route is to buy a Pentax entry level WR> camera and then buy a Nikon or a Canon... :o(

Re: PMA 2003 PENTAX

2003-03-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" Subject: Re: PMA 2003 PENTAX > Frits wrote: > > > Hum... first they buy the *ist, and then later the *ist D? > > Unfortunately, the usual Pentax route is to buy a Pentax entry level camera and then buy a Nikon or a C

Re: PMA 2003 PENTAX

2003-03-03 Thread Chris Brogden
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Pål Jensen wrote: > Frits wrote: > > > Hum... first they buy the *ist, and then later the *ist D? > > Unfortunately, the usual Pentax route is to buy a Pentax entry level > camera and then buy a Nikon or a Canon... :o( Yup... but can you blame the consumers? chris

Re: PMA 2003 PENTAX

2003-03-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Frits wrote: > Hum... first they buy the *ist, and then later the *ist D? Unfortunately, the usual Pentax route is to buy a Pentax entry level camera and then buy a Nikon or a Canon... :o( Pål

Re: PMA 2003 PENTAX

2003-03-03 Thread Frits Wüthrich
On Sunday 02 March 2003 22:39, Pål Jensen wrote: > Burt wrote: > > List prices on Starist - $319 Out at end of March > > BG-20 Grip - $79 Out A little after Starist. > > Starist D - $1600- This summer. > > My guess is that the *ist is going to be very successful whereas the *ist D > is going to se

Re: PMA 2003 PENTAX

2003-03-02 Thread Pål Jensen
Burt wrote: > List prices on Starist - $319 Out at end of March > BG-20 Grip - $79 Out A little after Starist. > Starist D - $1600- This summer. My guess is that the *ist is going to be very successful whereas the *ist D is going to sell well to owners of K-mount lenses. Pål

Re: PMA 2003 PENTAX

2003-03-02 Thread Matt Bevers
Maybe I'm being overly hopeful, but if one looks at list prices for current cameras on Pentax USA's web site and compares them to selling prices (at B&H for example), the street price is usually around 60% of the list. Following that logic, we could see the *ist at about $200 and the *ist D at

RE: PMA 2003 PENTAX

2003-03-02 Thread David Chang-Sang
Pentax has to be more aggressive in their pricing of the *ist D. If $1600 is the list price and street is about $1300 as noted here; people are apt to choose the 10D as the Canon system is now in its 3rd generation (D30, D60 now 10D) where as the Pentax is first generation. Pentax must be as agres

Re: PMA 2003 PENTAX

2003-03-02 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
With a $1600 list and $1100-$1200 street price the DSLR should be OK so long as Canon doesn't already have something in the same price/size/weight range by then. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List prices on Starist - $319 Out at end of March BG-20 Grip - $79 Out A little after Starist. Starist

Re: PMA 2003 PENTAX

2003-03-02 Thread KT Takeshita
On 03.3.2 4:36 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > List prices on Starist - $319 Out at end of March > BG-20 Grip - $79 Out A little after Starist. > Starist D - $1600- This summer. > Burt > Japanese counterpart of price.com showed the first street price of EOS 10D which is 173

Re: PMA 2003 PENTAX

2003-03-02 Thread Paul Eriksson
List prices on Starist - $319 Out at end of March BG-20 Grip - $79 Out A little after Starist. Starist D - $1600- This summer. So now for the million $ question, where will the street prices end up? My guess is $250 for the *ist and $1300 for the *ist D, just as predicted. The *ist is then a rep

Re: PMA 2003 PENTAX

2003-03-02 Thread Peter Jansen
"Starist D - $1600- This summer." Ouch. I hope this is a list price. The better take $600-$700 off! OR make it a 10-14 MP camera... --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > List prices on Starist - $319 Out at end of March > BG-20 Grip - $79 Out A little after Starist. > Starist D - $1600- This summer.

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-19 Thread Artur Ledóchowski
- Original Message - From: "Ken Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550 > gist, jist, kist, list, mist, pist...I think I like that one ;-) The last one actually sounds pretty much like pissed:)) Regards Artur

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-19 Thread Ken Archer
Since " * " is a wildcard, the possibilities are almost endlessfist, gist, jist, kist, list, mist, pist...I think I like that one ;-) On Wednesday 19 February 2003 12:32 pm, John Mustarde wrote: > I was wondering about the funny name of the new *ist camera. > > Now I get it - it's short for

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-19 Thread Cotty
>I was wondering about the funny name of the new *ist camera. > >Now I get it - it's short for Pentax Discuss Mailing *ist. > >So for me, the *ist camera is officially pronounced "List". Either that or the designer was Pist. Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-19 Thread John Mustarde
I was wondering about the funny name of the new *ist camera. Now I get it - it's short for Pentax Discuss Mailing *ist. So for me, the *ist camera is officially pronounced "List". -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Cotty
> I used to >read the 1953 Dodge, and then 1965 Plymouth service manuals that my >father kept under his seat in the car. > >BR This explains a lot. Cotty PS :-) Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Peter Jansen
Pål wrote: "They do that for all their equipment. You can get pro rabates on an MZ-5n. " I've never heard that before. Does this work like the Nikon pro service? For example, if you can prove you're a "pro" photographer, Nikon will loan you equipment (e.g. like a 600mm f4) for short-term use/even

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Peter Jansen
Pål wrote: "Personally, I don't think Pentax will ever make a "pro" camera, medium format or not (some don't consider pentax MF pro because they lack interchangeable film magazines). All Pentax medium format cameras has been quite faithful faximile of 35mm cameras, yes - even amateur ones. Pen

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Pål Jensen
Bruce wrote: > It is amazing how the list continues to wish/hope for a pro-level slr > when Pentax has not made one since the LX. Not so amazing as long as Pentax engineers and bosses insist on it. >Pentax has been quite clear that > their pro market is medium format. When? Where? If you go

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Like I said, no production 350 Hemi. GM didn't make "Hemi's". I used to read the 1953 Dodge, and then 1965 Plymouth service manuals that my father kept under his seat in the car. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 345 and 360 HEMIs were available in Australia in dodge and chrysler variants until the

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread gfen
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Mike Johnston wrote: > And when you replace the asterisk with a "D," you get what the *ist is gonna > be on this list. If it doesn't work with K, M and M42 adapter lenses, you'll want to use hte letter P to describe the feeligns 'round here. (at least they didn't call it Kis

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Shaun Canning
345 and 360 HEMIs were available in Australia in dodge and chrysler variants until the ealry 1980's Bruce. The 'famous' 350 was a GM motor from the corvette AFAIK. They are still using the GEN 111 350 motor in 'muscle cars' from Holden (GM)in Oz now. Cheers Shaun Bruce Rubenstein wrote: I don

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Bruce Dayton
Mike, It is amazing how the list continues to wish/hope for a pro-level slr when Pentax has not made one since the LX. Even the MZ-S was not fully embraced by the list members. Pentax has been quite clear that their pro market is medium format. Seems to me that this is exactly the type of camer

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Mike Johnston
> LOL. But the name sucks indeed. We all know that the asterisk is a > placeholder. If you replace it with a "M", the you have the German word > for dung or trash... =:-] Heiko, And when you replace the asterisk with a "D," you get what the *ist is gonna be on this list. --Mike

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quoth Wendy: > And it ~is~ a stupid name. Still not as stupid as Kiss, Sweet and Rebel > though. No way would I ever buy a camera with those names! If a really spiffy camera with an uber-dorky name fell into my hands, I'd certainly use it ... and make fun of the name the whole time. I've got no

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread WBeard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I don't mind it, oddly. The name however sucks worse than a Hoover with a >350 hemi undert the hood. (With apologies to Wendy Beard and Tim Allen) > Apology accepted. I don't have a clue what a 350 hemi is anyway. Under 't hood or otherwise ;-) And it ~is~ a stupid nam

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Cotty
>I don't think that there ever was a production 350 Hemi. 426, 413 were >the famous ones. There were even some hemi head V8s from the early 50's >in the sub 300ci range. > >BR Thanks Brucey-baby. I was just trying (and failing) to get into the US car-lingo. Actually I have built a Rover V8 (213

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
This might only be the designation in Japan. Many camera companies seem to give cute names to cameras for the home market and then give it an alpha-numeric model designation for the rest of the world. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL. But the name sucks indeed. We all know that the asterisk is

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Cotty, on 18 Feb 03 you wrote in pentax.list: >Heiko, I'll bet it look spretty neat in black ;-) OK, I'll order a piece of *ist, two FAJ-lenses and a can of black paint...:-) >I don't mind it, oddly. The name however sucks worse than a Hoover with a >350 hemi undert the hood. LOL. But the

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
I don't think that there ever was a production 350 Hemi. 426, 413 were the famous ones. There were even some hemi head V8s from the early 50's in the sub 300ci range. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mind it, oddly. The name however sucks worse than a Hoover with a 350 hemi undert the hood

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread gfen
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, [iso-8859-1] Pål Jensen wrote: > Nothing for us? Although I'm dissapointed by it's look as have heard > it was very stylish. I think it is ugly. Anyway, it is very feature I won't go ugly, but it looks sort of like it wants to be a Canon camera with teh big wheel thingy on the

RE: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Rob Brigham
First look at 550 http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/events/PMA-2003/news/pentax/Optio55 0_uk.html

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 18.02.03 16:39, Rob Brigham at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Interesting - the film chamber is on the right!?!? Maybe *ist pull out all of the film then frame after frame rewind in the cartridge? > > It seems to have the same type of on/off switch as MZ-S (perhaps DOF > too?), no self timer but

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Dario Bonazza 2
It takes A-series lenses. Dario Bonazza > Doesn't say if it will take the SMCP(K), M,or A series lenses. (I'd bet > on A but who knows).

RE: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Rob Brigham
Interesting - the film chamber is on the right!?!? It seems to have the same type of on/off switch as MZ-S (perhaps DOF too?), no self timer but a remote control option, a top wheel which has no markings (presumably for shutter and/or aperture) and some sort of button just in front of it (to shift

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Pål, on 18 Feb 03 you wrote in pentax.list: >> They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" SLR >> *ist. Nothing for us... >Nothing for us? Yes, because: >I think it is ugly. I second that;-) But you're right - the features are very interesting. We will have to see, h

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 18.02.03 16:25, Pål Jensen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Nothing for us? Although I'm dissapointed by it's look as have heard it was > very stylish. I think it is ugly. Anyway, it is very feature laden, almost > completely featured, with 11 point AF and cross sensors and 16 zone metering. It s

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk
> They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" SLR > *ist. Nothing for us... Well, I, for one, think 11-point AF and 16-segment metering are at least worth mentioning. I also kinda like the shape of the camera, though I'd like to look at the top plate first. Regards, Lukasz ==

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Peter Alling
Doesn't say if it will take the SMCP(K), M,or A series lenses. (I'd bet on A but who knows). At 04:15 PM 2/18/2003 +0100, you wrote: on 18.02.03 16:04, Heiko Hamann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Here we go: www.dpreview.com > > They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" SL

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Pål Jensen
Heiko wrote: > They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" SLR > *ist. Nothing for us... Nothing for us? Although I'm dissapointed by it's look as have heard it was very stylish. I think it is ugly. Anyway, it is very feature laden, almost completely featured, with 11 poi

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 18.02.03 16:04, Heiko Hamann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Here we go: www.dpreview.com > > They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" SLR > *ist. Nothing for us... *ist - interesting - "Sophisticated 11-point autofocus system with cross-shaped AF point selector and LED v

Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550

2003-02-18 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Heiko, on 18 Feb 03 you wrote in pentax.list: >Here we go: www.dpreview.com >They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" SLR >*ist. Nothing for us... But it has some very nice features: - 1. Ultra-compac

Re: New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great ****LX**** news!))

2003-02-17 Thread Mike Johnston
> Anyway, she got to talking about why she was renting the Pentax. Seems > her less than a year old mamiya 645 (the beginner model, I think), was > in the shop for the third time. God, she was pissed! Tom, A maker of carriage-trade view cameras, who shall go unnamed, once told me that his principa

Re: New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great ****LX**** news!))

2003-02-17 Thread Mike Johnston
> Think Bronica GS-1 with a revolving back. > Or a Mamiya RB with good lenses and mechanical reliability. I don't see either of those as being any smaller than the current 6x7. --Mike

RE: New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great ****LX**** news!))

2003-02-17 Thread Peter Alling
third time. God, she was pissed! She really liked the Pentax too. tv > -Original Message- > From: Peter Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 4:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great LX >

RE: New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great ****LX**** news!))

2003-02-17 Thread tom
ED] > Subject: Re: New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great LX > news!)) > > > I'm sorry but I have a hard time imagining entirely > mythical devices, warp > drive is much easier. > > At 03:00 PM 2/17/2003 -0600, William Robb wrote: > > > &

RE: New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great ****LX**** news!))

2003-02-17 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > William wrote: > > > Think Bronica GS-1 with a revolving back. > > Or a Mamiya RB with good lenses and mechanical reliability. > > But they are not compact. The fact that the new 67 is more > compact than the current one

Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great ****LX**** news!)

2003-02-17 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Something like that would be a beast, like a GS-1. And, they'd lose their flattest-film-plane advantage that helps keep the 67 on top. Personally, I'd like to see a 67 with a coupled rangefinder on top, electronically linked to a focus sensor. Lighter and more versatile. Imagine, all the advantage

Re: New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great ****LX**** news!))

2003-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" Subject: Re: New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great LX news!)) > > But they are not compact. The fact that the new 67 is more compact than the current one is the only feature leaked out so far. That will be some fea

Re: New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great ****LX**** news!))

2003-02-17 Thread Peter Alling
I'm sorry but I have a hard time imagining entirely mythical devices, warp drive is much easier. At 03:00 PM 2/17/2003 -0600, William Robb wrote: Or a Mamiya RB with good lenses and mechanical reliability. William Robb Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it'

Re: New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great ****LX**** news!))

2003-02-17 Thread Pål Jensen
William wrote: > Think Bronica GS-1 with a revolving back. > Or a Mamiya RB with good lenses and mechanical reliability. But they are not compact. The fact that the new 67 is more compact than the current one is the only feature leaked out so far. Pål

Re: New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great ****LX**** news!))

2003-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" Subject: New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great LX news!)) > William wrote: > > > I would welcome a 6x7 that was shaped more like the 645. > > Very unlikely as the 645 shape is defined by the "weird&quo

New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great ****LX**** news!))

2003-02-17 Thread Pål Jensen
William wrote: > I would welcome a 6x7 that was shaped more like the 645. Very unlikely as the 645 shape is defined by the "weird" film travel. A 67, at least without interchangeable backs, will have shape dictated by the film chamber something that mean a camera close to the shape of the curre

Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great ****LX**** news!)

2003-02-17 Thread Frits Wüthrich
On Monday 17 February 2003 12:30, Pål Jensen wrote: > surprises revealed the day the show start (when is that?). 2 March - 5 March 2003 -- Frits Wüthrich Pentaxianado

Re: Re: RE: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great ****LX**** news!)

2003-02-17 Thread Cotty
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RE: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great ****LX**** news!)

2003-02-17 Thread Rob Brigham
http://pma2003.pmai.org/ 12 days, 21 hours to go! > -Original Message- > From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Most likely we will get the "boring" news before the show. > Pentax have a tradition of surprise so I would expect the > more interesting news to be surprises revea

Re: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-02 Thread Pål Jensen
Rob wrote: > Its like many things in life, its all about building a relationship with > a supplier. You can entice them with promises of what you offer, you > can demonstrate that you are up to the job by showing published work or > you can be famout enough that they approach you and try to butt

Re: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread ernreed2
Mr Chan posted: In order to capture that market, > >> Toyota > >> invented another brand name called "Lexus" which was believed to copy > >> Benz > >> in many ways. People don't think the brand PENTAX as a luxury brand, > >> or > >> professional as Canon or Nikon. In order to change the percept

Re: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread ernreed2
> > On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 07:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Mr Chan posted, among other things: > >> Except there is one difference. It doesn't matter how luxurious a > >> Toyota is, > >> it's still a Toyota to most people. In order to capture that market, > >> Toyota > >> inv

Re: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread Dan Scott
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 07:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Chan posted, among other things: Except there is one difference. It doesn't matter how luxurious a Toyota is, it's still a Toyota to most people. In order to capture that market, Toyota invented another brand name called "

Re: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread Dan Scott
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 04:57 PM, Alan Chan wrote: Imagine a cell phone with a "dial" instead of buttons. :) regards, Alan Chan Cool Dan Scott

Re: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread Feroze Kistan
kind of prices. I've bought computers, cameras, cell phones this way and re-sold them. Never heard of anybody giving one away though. Feroze - Original Message - From: "Peter Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 6:59

Re: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-01-31 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
I don't live in Europe, and suspect that you are once again full of shit. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, most japanese manufacturers have tried to taylor exclusive cars for Europe but all have failed. Examples includes the Honda Accord that was designed and manufactured in Europe (but no

Re: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-01-31 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Huh? Are you sure that you don't mean Infiniti? There are loads of the Lexus SUVs around (Ugh!). BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lexus sales are not very good in the US either. The brand was a one-hit wonder. Their styling is stagnant, their marketing, nonexistent.

Re: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-01-31 Thread ernreed2
Mr Chan posted, among other things: > Except there is one difference. It doesn't matter how luxurious a Toyota is, > it's still a Toyota to most people. In order to capture that market, Toyota > invented another brand name called "Lexus" which was believed to copy Benz > in many ways. People don

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