Re: Pentax K3 III Monochrome Review

2023-12-20 Thread Henk Terhell
Their conclusion is that K-1, having a similar cost price as the K-3 III monochrome,  provides the same quality in monochrome mode. It would have been better to have a monochrome version of the K-1. Otherwise there are no important negative comments, except of course the absence of a flippy scre

Re: Pentax K3 III Monochrome Review

2023-12-19 Thread Larry Colen
He generally does fair reviews, but I can't take the time at work to watch it, though I can get away with occasionally checking email. Can you summarize? I'll guess: If you can afford $2200 for a body that you only use for monochrome, you get a stop better performance and better effective resol

Pentax K3 III Monochrome Review

2023-12-19 Thread Steve Cottrell
Petapixel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4ZpLIUzjPw Cheers, Cotty -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the di

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-19 Thread Bill
They have presold the first production run and are taking orders. As always, Ricehigh has warped tge facts to his narrative. bill On Fri., Apr. 14, 2023, 12:00 p.m. John Francis, wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 10:14:36AM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > > > > https://www.dpreview.com/news/278

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
cilitated by the higher sensitivity of the monochrome sensor. I can't say about the Pentax K3-III Monochrome, but between the Leica M10-R and M10 Monochrom, both nominally 40 Mpixel FF sensors from the same sensor family, the difference in acutance and grayscale dynamic range is immediately

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
cilitated by the higher sensitivity of the monochrome sensor. I can't say about the Pentax K3-III Monochrome, but between the Leica M10-R and M10 Monochrom, both nominally 40 Mpixel FF sensors from the same sensor family, the difference in acutance and grayscale dynamic range is immediately

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-15 Thread John Sessoms
One of the parks I used to frequent trying to photograph birds had a children's playground I had to walk past on my way down to the lakes. If I tried to photograph anything along the path I'd sometimes get "concerned parents" wanting to know what I was up to and was I photographing their kids?

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-15 Thread Henk Terhell
Under Dutch/EU privacy legislation the approval of parents is required before taking pictures of kids at school (or elsewhere). Op za 15 apr 2023 om 02:46 schreef : > > In another thread, people on the small island where I lived are now saying > that news outlets cannot publish photos taken at sc

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-15 Thread Eric Weir
> On Apr 14, 2023, at 5:57 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > I guess we’re more fortunate in the UK. My whole ethos is about communicating > with people and making them feel at ease. Not always convenient of course but > without it people do feel threatened. Difficult with cityscape photography I >

RE: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-14 Thread jcoyle
en at school events, because the kids are identifiable. Has this madness gone too far? John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: Steve Cottrell Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 7:58 AM To: pentax list Subject: Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome Wow! I guess we’re more fortunate in the U

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-14 Thread Steve Cottrell
Wow! I guess we’re more fortunate in the UK. My whole ethos is about communicating with people and making them feel at ease. Not always convenient of course but without it people do feel threatened. Difficult with cityscape photography I grant you. Sheesh! Cotty On 14 Apr 2023, at 10:38, Ralf

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-14 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 10:14:36AM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > https://www.dpreview.com/news/2780405465/ricoh-announces-pentax-k-3-iii-monochrome-dslr According to a post from ricehigh (there's a name I haven't seen in years) Pentax are no longer accepting new orders for this, so presumably

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-14 Thread Mark Roberts
I just read through the comments section on DPreview. Reminded me of why I haven't looked at DPreview for years. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-14 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 14.04.23 um 10:33 schrieb Steve Cottrell: Interesting. I guess it’s an aspect of different cultures’ perceptions. Different cultures and, most of all, different times. There was a time when a photographer was the friendly guy with a camera who took nice pictures and people were glad when so

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-14 Thread Steve Cottrell
Having to send this again as the previous attempt went over the 10Kb limit for size. 10Kb?!?? Interesting. I guess it’s an aspect of different cultures’ perceptions. Generally speaking I have no problems photographing in public. Mind you, I have been doing it with big video cameras for over 30

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 13, 2023, at 2:28 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > ... > Basically, the technical arguments would be “are the tradeoffs worth it?”. > You are losing all of your color channel information in exchange for a little > bit better performance in other areas. I suspect that the improved > performance

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Cottrell wrote: >https://www.dpreview.com/news/2780405465/ricoh-announces-pentax-k-3-iii-monochrome-dslr Looks interesting. I'll show it to my Digital Photography I class tomorrow (coincidentally, "Black & White" was the assignment for this week). It'll be interesting to see what they make

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Henk Terhell
This video puts the finger on the weak spot in that for street photography a bulky DSLR nowadays upsets a lot of people. I do recognize however the beauty of B/W for such type of photography. Speaking to a street photographer the other day he told me that he mostly shoot from the hip with a tilte

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Steve Cottrell
Interesting what he says about optical viewfinders and monochrome cameras - exactly what I felt. Actually very interested in this camera after seeing that video. Paired up with the A*85/1.4 that would be a killer concert camera for shooting at music gigs etc. On 13 Apr 2023, at 21:50, Steve

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Steve Cottrell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ5LtayQrpo This guy is very watchable, good video. Speaks from the heart. Cotty -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directi

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Bob W PDML
X100 > On 13 Apr 2023, at 21:08, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > Is it an X100, X100S, X100T, X100F or the unobtainable X100V :-) > > > > On 13 Apr 2023, at 21:04, Bob W PDML wrote: > > I have an original X100 which I never use, hardly used at all really, if > you’re interested when the dust se

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Steve Cottrell
Is it an X100, X100S, X100T, X100F or the unobtainable X100V :-) On 13 Apr 2023, at 21:04, Bob W PDML wrote: I have an original X100 which I never use, hardly used at all really, if you’re interested when the dust settles I’m sure we can figure something out. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss M

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Bob W PDML
I have an original X100 which I never use, hardly used at all really, if you’re interested when the dust settles I’m sure we can figure something out. > I really like an optical viewfinder for mono, so in theory the Pentax wins on > that score. The Fuji X20 has an optical viewfinder. I suppose

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Larry Colen
> On Apr 13, 2023, at 10:29 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > I've been working with the Leica M10 Monochrom for about a year now. > > Larry has it correct ... Think of a monochrome camera's output as a simple > recording based on the sensor's spectral sensitivity curve, just as you do > with

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Steve Cottrell
I’m in the process of selling my Olympus Pen F - I haven’t used it hardly at all in quite a while, but that’s down to being busy in other areas like music, boat-building, oh yeah and work! I still have my trusty little Fuji X20 which incidentally I am going to build a custom power supply for as

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've been working with the Leica M10 Monochrom for about a year now. Larry has it correct ... Think of a monochrome camera's output as a simple recording based on the sensor's spectral sensitivity curve, just as you do with B&W film, and use B&W color filters to modify the translation of color

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Bob W PDML
> On 13 Apr 2023, at 17:12, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Am 13.04.23 um 17:11 schrieb Bob W PDML: >> That would be only 1,220. > > Is anyone seriously expecting more than that? > > Ralf Their finance director? > > -- > -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an emai

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 13.04.23 um 17:11 schrieb Bob W PDML: That would be only 1,220. Is anyone seriously expecting more than that? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommuni

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Bob W PDML
That would be only 1,220. > On 13 Apr 2023, at 16:05, John Sessoms wrote: > > I hope they sell a ton of them. > >> On 4/13/2023 5:14 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: >> https://www.dpreview.com/news/2780405465/ricoh-announces-pentax-k-3-iii-monochrome-dslr >> Cotty >> -- >> %( -- %(real_name)s Penta

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread John Sessoms
I hope they sell a ton of them. On 4/13/2023 5:14 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: https://www.dpreview.com/news/2780405465/ricoh-announces-pentax-k-3-iii-monochrome-dslr Cotty -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread lrc
I don't think it is firmware on this one, I think it comes down to the response of the silicon since it doesn't have a Bayer filter. You would have to choose a color filter when shooting, just as with black and white film. I could make all sorts of technical arguments against it, but it's really

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
PhotoShop is my monochrome kit. I’d rather control how the various tones are rendered in grayscale rather than living it up to the camera and the techs who deisgned the firmware. > On Apr 13, 2023, at 9:32 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > Nice! If they've done a good job of it, this is a much

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Nice! If they've done a good job of it, this is a much less costly entry point into a dedicated monochrome kit. It's entertaining that its announcement happened within a day of Leica's M11 Monochrom announcement, too. G > On Apr 13, 2023, at 5:14 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: >  > https://www

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Bob W PDML
Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing more to take away. —- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry > On 13 Apr 2023, at 13:44, Henk Terhell wrote: > > No flip screen, no colour, what can be removed next?:) > > Henk > > Op do 13 apr 2023 om 11:14 schreef

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Henk Terhell
No flip screen, no colour, what can be removed next?:) Henk Op do 13 apr 2023 om 11:14 schreef Steve Cottrell : > > > https://www.dpreview.com/news/2780405465/ricoh-announces-pentax-k-3-iii-monochrome-dslr > > > Cotty > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email t

RE: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread pkn291262
A second one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ5LtayQrpo -Original Message- From: Steve Cottrell Sent: Thursday, 13 April 2023 11:15 To: pentax list Subject: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome https://www.dpreview.com/news/2780405465/ricoh-announces-pentax-k-3-iii-mono chrome-dslr Cotty

RE: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread pkn291262
Came across this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FVGSTxx82E -Original Message- From: Steve Cottrell Sent: Thursday, 13 April 2023 11:15 To: pentax list Subject: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome https://www.dpreview.com/news/2780405465/ricoh-announces-pentax-k-3-iii-mono chrome-dslr Cotty

Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Bob W PDML
Nice. The tones that come out of the M10 monochrome are superb. > On 13 Apr 2023, at 10:14, Steve Cottrell wrote: > >  > https://www.dpreview.com/news/2780405465/ricoh-announces-pentax-k-3-iii-monochrome-dslr > > > Cotty > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an e

Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-13 Thread Steve Cottrell
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