That's one thing I'd never do with any of my disks!
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> In the player
be in the subject line.
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From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
Commercial or home made?
I'm thinking you mean t
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>I meant, how much longer does an MP3 CD last, as far as the quality and
> preserving data is concerned. Is it possible that the quality will be
> preserved for a longer period than for regular a
So, why not make copies?
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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
The issue of optical disk storage fragility has to do with the physical
characteristics of
Gary Wood
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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 3:28 PM
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But I thought that when CD's first came out they showed much promise,
because the disks weren't supposed to wear out because nothing was supposed
Commercial or home made?
I'm thinking you mean the latter, but want to check to make certain.
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From: Rick Harmon
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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
I know one persons op
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> Well, if an mp3 CD handles about 200 songs, a regular cd about 18 to 28 or
> even 30 sometimes, that might be a good indicator of the difference.
> - Original Me
It's not a fact as far as I know, just a theory.
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From: Christopher Bartlett
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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
This is a well-known fact about which you can find articl
, 2007 2:47 PM
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>I wonder if there's any difference between how long an audio CD lasts
> compared to an MP3 CD!
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On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:29 PM
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But I thought that when CD's first came out they showed much promise,
because the disks weren't supposed to wear out because nothing was suppose
The issue of optical disk storage fragility has to do with the physical
characteristics of CDs and DVDs. They are made of plastics with various
surface
layerings. I read about this years ago that early commercial CDs were
already going bad in the early 90s. I've lost a number of data CD
I wonder if there's any difference between how long an audio CD lasts
compared to an MP3 CD!
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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:12 AM
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> This is a well-known fact about which you can find articles in all
> the major computer mags if you search, and is one of the reasons why,
> with the advent of cheap hard drive space, h
remember what these
differences are.
Wayne
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From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
Well, one of those sources was someone
ot;PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
No flame intended, but why not site these great research sources. Otherwise,
your post is just another person's opinion.
Thanks,
Matthew
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Name one.
While you're at it, off the top of your head convey some of these well known
facts.
Matthew
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>I agree. I have music files, document files, docs on floppies, and software
> on CD that goes back some 9 years. In fact, just about 1 month ago I
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> Name one.
>
> While you're at it, off the top of your head convey some of these well
> known
> facts.
>
> Matthew
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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:09 AM
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> The last I read about this, the author recommended you purchase name brand
&
Name one.
While you're at it, off the top of your head convey some of these well known
facts.
Matthew
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I still have things that I recorded on a CDRW disk maybe three years ago or
more.
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Subje
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> > Hi List:
> >
> > Since nobody brought this up, I guess I have to be the one to give the bad
> > news.
> >
> >>From my past research;
> > one. My unders
cussion List
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No flame intended, but why not site these great research sources. Otherwise,
your post is just another person's opinion.
Thanks,
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I still have things that I recorded on a CDRW disk maybe three years ago or
more.
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er 06, 2007 5:48 PM
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> Hi List:
>
> Since nobody brought this up, I guess I have to be the one to give the bad
> news.
>
>>From my past research;
> one. My understanding is that CDR & CDRW DISKS are not recommended for
> storin
longer the case.
Wayne
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From: "VICTORIA VAUGHAN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
Hi, If you have a drive that can burn and read both CD and DV
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> Aha, that does make sense, especially on a public list such as this one.
>
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> From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Tuesday, S
That's huge, compared to the average run of the mill CD!
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Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:56 PM
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> 25 g
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I just purchased a new computer and asked for a driver which would right
DVD's. How do I know what it&#
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Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:56 PM
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25 giggs for the standard disk, 50 for the double layer disks.
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25 giggs for the standard disk, 50 for the double layer disks.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:39 PM
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Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
I don't know
I don't know what the difference is between HD or Blu-ray disks but Blu-ray
is about 20 gigs!
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Aha, that does make sense, especially on a public list such as this one.
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From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 5:25 PM
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Let me clarify. I'm selling the originals not those disks I rip.
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Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:52 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Output format tips n
ssion List'
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Along with the files I have stored on my computer and an external
drive, I was considering making a more permanent record with DVD disks.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Who's the manufacturer of that dvd player?
Thanks.
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From: Dane Trethowan
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Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
Well a couple of things here, I do it all the time for a varie
John Price
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From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'"
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: Output format tips needed:
> Along with the files I have stored on m
Does this program do a varify pass?
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From: albert griffith
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 1:10 AM
Subject: RE: Output format tips needed:
During my quest to learn as much as I could about various formats
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From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 7:43 AM
Subject: Output format tips needed:
Before replying to your question re output tips I should think that list
members need to know if you have copywrite pe
AUGHAN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 9:28 AM
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> Hi, If you have a drive that can burn and read both CD and DVD, why would
> it
> not be a good idea to store CD music on DVD?
Exactly the point and why I suggested that DVD-RW discs should be
used, that way if one needs updating or if one goes bad then you can
replace it. Noww that I have a tarabyte drive, I'm going to copy all
my DVD'S of music onto it.
It was suggested to people that if they were thinking of playi
Hi, If you have a drive that can burn and read both CD and DVD, why would it
not be a good idea to store CD music on DVD? Wouldn't you get a lot more
music on each disk?
I'm interested, since I might like to do the same.
Thanks for your info! Vicky
Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and
That sounds right to me.
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On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:05 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
You've certainly got enough hard drive spa
I'm going to want to add additional external drive capacity.
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Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:34 PM
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Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
Well a cou
is to
stick with CDs.
John Price
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From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'"
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 1:23 AM
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> Are you saying DVD players
Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
Well a couple of things here, I do it all the time for a variety of reasons.
I now have a DVD player that plays DVD Discs and all audio formats I've put
past it, these include FLAC, MP3 and AAC/M4A and it was quite a cheap uni
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On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:14 PM
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High albert,
You may want to rethink that idea.
In less you have a DVD player that can play dvd audio
t griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:00 PM
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> Along with the files I have stored on my computer and an external
> drive,
> I
> was considering
of this computer
and Vista Home Premium.
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Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:14 PM
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Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
High albert,
You may want to rethink th
From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'"
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: Output format tips needed:
> Along with the files I have stored on my computer and an external drive,
> I
> was conside
Re: Output format tips needed:
I don't know that Nero has Flac, but it does have Ape.
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From: Kevin Lloyd
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
Hi.
If you're looking t
I don't know that Nero has Flac, but it does have Ape.
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From: Kevin Lloyd
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
Hi.
If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of
iscussion List"
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> Yep, an excellent format actually, if you want to hear how good it is
> then you can hear AAC+ streams at http://www.tuner2.com but I'm not
> sure whether its as good as a lossless fo
f Of Kevin Lloyd
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:32 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
Hi Albert.
The praise would be high for Aac Plus on Live365 as the Aac Plus format is
very good at delivering a decent sound quality at very low bitrates. This
will not
please explain about the sound thing
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Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
> Yep, an excellent format actually, if yo
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> The have high praise for AAC on the Live 365 pages.
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
permanent record with DVD disks. Any
thoughts would be appreciated.
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On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:55 AM
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The have high praise for AAC on the Live 365 pages.
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On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:57 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
Yep, an excellent format
, September 02, 2007 10:55 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
Yep, with today's cheap hard drive prices, why settle for anything less than
the quality of a purchased music CD? Of course, you can then create other
formats from your perfect lossless masters su
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> High Kevin, this is Mr. John Price.
> This is exactly what I do.
> I have Wenamp V5.35, but when I want to rip CDs, I fall back on
> Windows
>
007 10:36 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
i would also recomand Aac plus the file size is smaller and sounds
just as
good if not better then wma. lossless.
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ds.
Kevin
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> High Kevin, this is Mr. John Price.
> This i
I'm looking in to that format as well, thanks.
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Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:36 AM
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Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
i would also recomand Aac plu
> conversion.
>
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 6:31 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
>
> Hi.
>
> If yo
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Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 6:31 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
Hi.
If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling
them then you'll need to use a lossless f
.
Maybe the others will ketch on.
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From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
> Hi.
>
> If you're looking to retain exact
is with nero but I could be wrong.
Regards.
Kevin
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Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM
Subject: Output format tips needed:
>I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my e
: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: Output format tips needed:
thanks for the suggestion. where would I find, Wave Pack?
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thanks for the suggestion. where would I find, Wave Pack?
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Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 2:32 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
You could always rip
You could always rip to wave with CDEX and compress them down with wave pack
which can be lossless as well.
David Ferrin
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From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:43 AM
Subject: Output format tips need
: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Output format tips needed:
Ok, well try FLAC perhaps?
FLAC is a "Lossless" compression format and many players recognise it
including a lot of modern-day DVD and car stereo systems.
On 02/09/2007, at 12:43 AM, albert griffith wrote:
I have 650 aud
Ok, well try FLAC perhaps?
FLAC is a "Lossless" compression format and many players recognise it
including a lot of modern-day DVD and car stereo systems.
On 02/09/2007, at 12:43 AM, albert griffith wrote:
I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm
going
to sell the
I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going
to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't
afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position
to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to
jus
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