Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-06-15 Thread Jonas Gorski
On 29 May 2017 at 09:03, John Crispin wrote: > (resend, this time as plain text) > > > Hi, > > here is a V3 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments > people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. Please remeber that > post remerge anything can be voted on, so clutterin

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-06-13 Thread John Crispin
On 13/06/17 21:58, Florian Fainelli wrote: On 05/28/2017 11:56 PM, John Crispin wrote: Hi, here is a V3 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. Please remeber that post remerge anything can be voted on, so cluttering t

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-06-13 Thread Florian Fainelli
On 05/28/2017 11:56 PM, John Crispin wrote: > Hi, > > here is a V3 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments > people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. Please remeber > that post remerge anything can be voted on, so cluttering the proposal > with many details will d

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-06-13 Thread Jo-Philipp Wich
Hi, NACK from me - not that it makes a difference but I do not like to operate under the OpenWrt name. ~ Jo ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-05-31 Thread Alexander Couzens
On Mon, 29 May 2017 09:03:57 +0200 John Crispin wrote: > (resend, this time as plain text) > > Hi, > > here is a V3 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the > comments people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. > Please remeber that post remerge anything can be voted on, s

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-05-30 Thread Piotr Dymacz
On 29.05.2017 09:03, John Crispin wrote: (resend, this time as plain text) Hi, here is a V3 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. Please remeber that post remerge anything can be voted on, so cluttering the proposal wi

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-05-29 Thread Rafał Miłecki
On 29 May 2017 at 09:03, John Crispin wrote: > here is a V3 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments > people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. Please remeber that > post remerge anything can be voted on, so cluttering the proposal with many > details will delay th

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-05-29 Thread Hans Dedecker
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 9:03 AM, John Crispin wrote: > (resend, this time as plain text) > > > Hi, > > here is a V3 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments > people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. Please remeber that > post remerge anything can be voted on, so c

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-05-29 Thread Daniel Golle
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 09:03:57AM +0200, John Crispin wrote: > (resend, this time as plain text) > > Hi, > > here is a V3 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments > people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. Please remeber that > post remerge anything can be voted

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-05-29 Thread Hauke Mehrtens
On 05/29/2017 09:03 AM, John Crispin wrote: > (resend, this time as plain text) > > Hi, > > here is a V3 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments > people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. Please remeber > that post remerge anything can be voted on, so cluttering

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-05-29 Thread Stijn Tintel
On 29-05-17 09:03, John Crispin wrote: > (resend, this time as plain text) > > Hi, > > here is a V3 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments > people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. Please > remeber that post remerge anything can be voted on, so cluttering the > p

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-05-29 Thread Matthias Schiffer
On 05/29/2017 09:03 AM, John Crispin wrote: > (resend, this time as plain text) > > Hi, > > here is a V3 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments > people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. Please remeber > that post remerge anything can be voted on, so cluttering

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-05-29 Thread John Crispin
On 29/05/17 10:39, Tom Psyborg wrote: Compared to Flyspray, Trac is a nightmare to administer. It leaks resources like a sieve and tends to slow down to a crawl under load. Regards, Jo Could you be more specific? I don't see how can it leak resources. About slow down, hav

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-05-29 Thread Tom Psyborg
> Compared to Flyspray, Trac is a nightmare to administer. It leaks > resources like a sieve and tends to slow down to a crawl under load. > > Regards, > Jo > > Could you be more specific? I don't see how can it leak resources. About slow down, have you ever chekced the server it is hosted on, or c

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-05-29 Thread Jo-Philipp Wich
Hi Tom, > I'd vote for re-enabling trac for all users, instead of wasting time and > resources on another flyspray instance or even existing one which > compared to trac does not bring any breakthrough features. Compared to Flyspray, Trac is a nightmare to administer. It leaks resources like a si

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-05-29 Thread Tom Psyborg
On 29 May 2017 at 08:56, John Crispin wrote: > Hi, > > here is a V3 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments > people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. > > *) trac > - trac is already readonly, keep content so that search engines can still > find the it > - edit t

[OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-05-29 Thread John Crispin
(resend, this time as plain text) Hi, here is a V3 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. Please remeber that post remerge anything can be voted on, so cluttering the proposal with many details will delay the remerge

[OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V3

2017-05-28 Thread John Crispin
Hi, here is a V3 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. Please remeber that post remerge anything can be voted on, so cluttering the proposal with many details will delay the remerge even more. Ideally we manage to v

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

2017-05-23 Thread John Crispin
On 23/05/17 17:29, Zoltan HERPAI wrote: Hi John, John Crispin wrote: here is a V2 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. [snip] Please let us know when you'll start a final vote on this proposal, or if you want to

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

2017-05-23 Thread Zoltan HERPAI
Hi John, John Crispin wrote: here is a V2 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. [snip] Please let us know when you'll start a final vote on this proposal, or if you want to wait a few days if anything bumps in for a

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

2017-05-22 Thread Florian Fainelli
On 05/22/2017 02:02 AM, Rafał Miłecki wrote: > On 05/22/2017 09:40 AM, John Crispin wrote: >> *) branding >> - the owrt side sees no option of using the lede brand >> - a (minor) majority voted for openwrt as a name over lede whilst most >> people said they did not care >> - as the last vote had a

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

2017-05-22 Thread tapper
Sounds good to me! On 22/05/2017 08:40, John Crispin wrote: Hi, here is a V2 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. John *) branding - the owrt side sees no option of using the lede brand - a (minor) major

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

2017-05-22 Thread Rafał Miłecki
On 05/22/2017 09:40 AM, John Crispin wrote: *) branding - the owrt side sees no option of using the lede brand - a (minor) majority voted for openwrt as a name over lede whilst most people said they did not care - as the last vote had a 100% ACK for a remerge using the owrt brand is the only fe

[OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

2017-05-22 Thread John Crispin
Hi, here is a V2 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments people made into it, if anything is missing let me know. John *) branding - the owrt side sees no option of using the lede brand - a (minor) majority voted for openwrt as a name over lede whilst most people s

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-11 Thread David Lang
On Thu, 11 May 2017, Martin Tippmann wrote: On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 5:27 PM, tapper wrote: On 11/05/2017 09:30, Matthias Schiffer wrote: The OpenWrt forum design looks a bit better than the landing page, but it still feels too heavy due to the colored backgrounds. Matthias One more thing

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-11 Thread Martin Tippmann
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 5:27 PM, tapper wrote: > On 11/05/2017 09:30, Matthias Schiffer wrote: >> >> On 05/11/2017 12:17 AM, Hauke Mehrtens wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for moving this forward. >>> >>> On 05/08/2017 03:19 PM, John Crispin wrote: *) github >>> >>> . - obsolete

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-11 Thread tapper
On 11/05/2017 09:30, Matthias Schiffer wrote: On 05/11/2017 12:17 AM, Hauke Mehrtens wrote: Thanks for moving this forward. On 05/08/2017 03:19 PM, John Crispin wrote: *) github . - obsolete the lede github org after a grace period of 3-6 months As long as it does not cost us effort I

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-11 Thread Matthias Schiffer
[Some lists were dropped from this thread, adding again] > >>> According to the rules there shall be no personal mail accounts at all. >>> There should be plenty of time until the actual remerge to fade them out >>> and to set up forwarding elsewhere. >> >> I hope you agree that a merge means bo

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-11 Thread Matthias Schiffer
On 05/11/2017 12:17 AM, Hauke Mehrtens wrote: > Thanks for moving this forward. > > On 05/08/2017 03:19 PM, John Crispin wrote: >> *) github > . >> >> - obsolete the lede github org after a grace period of 3-6 months > > As long as it does not cost us effort I would like to keep the lede > doma

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-11 Thread Hannu Nyman
Hauke Mehrtens wrote on Wed May 10 15:17:37 PDT 2017: > On 05/08/2017 03:19 PM, John Crispin wrote: > > *) landing page > > - update the lede landing page to represent the openwrt name > > - update the landing page to have the same look & feel as the current > > openwrt landing page > > - point

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-10 Thread Hauke Mehrtens
Thanks for moving this forward. On 05/08/2017 03:19 PM, John Crispin wrote: > *) github . > > - obsolete the lede github org after a grace period of 3-6 months As long as it does not cost us effort I would like to keep the lede domains and github project up running for longer. > *) landing

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-10 Thread Yousong Zhou
So many items to vote and work on. I would suggest we sort out those formal things first, e.g. project rules, umbrella project etc. I do not know much about the past history apart from those posts in the public mailing list. But if these formal things were the major cause of the split in the fir

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-09 Thread Florian Fainelli
On 05/08/2017 06:19 AM, John Crispin wrote: > Hi, > > Felix, Imre and myself had 2 calls last week lasting several hours and > discussed the following proposal of conditions for a remerge that we > would like to propose and have people vote on. > > *) branding > - the owrt side sees no option of

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-09 Thread Hans Dedecker
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:50 AM, John Crispin wrote: > > > On 09/05/17 09:49, Rafał Miłecki wrote: >> >> On 8 May 2017 at 15:19, John Crispin wrote: >>> >>> *) domain >>> - transfer owner ship to SPI for openwrt.org and lede-project.org >>> (...) >>> >>> *) SPI >>> - TBD post remerge >> >> This is

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-09 Thread Rafał Miłecki
On 9 May 2017 at 09:50, John Crispin wrote: > On 09/05/17 09:49, Rafał Miłecki wrote: >> >> On 8 May 2017 at 15:19, John Crispin wrote: >>> >>> *) domain >>> - transfer owner ship to SPI for openwrt.org and lede-project.org >>> (...) >>> >>> *) SPI >>> - TBD post remerge >> >> This is unclear to

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-09 Thread John Crispin
On 09/05/17 09:49, Rafał Miłecki wrote: On 8 May 2017 at 15:19, John Crispin wrote: *) domain - transfer owner ship to SPI for openwrt.org and lede-project.org (...) *) SPI - TBD post remerge This is unclear to me. Are we postponing setting rules with SPI on how they should manage domains?

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-09 Thread Rafał Miłecki
On 8 May 2017 at 15:19, John Crispin wrote: > *) domain > - transfer owner ship to SPI for openwrt.org and lede-project.org > (...) > > *) SPI > - TBD post remerge This is unclear to me. Are we postponing setting rules with SPI on how they should manage domains? I guess it should be handled at th

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-08 Thread John Crispin
On 08/05/17 15:29, David Woodhouse wrote: On Mon, 2017-05-08 at 15:19 +0200, John Crispin wrote: *) mailing list - ask david to add the openwrt-adm and openwrt lists - announce the switch to the infradead serves, asking people to unsubscribe if they have privacy issues with this - import the u

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-08 Thread Imre Kaloz
On 2017-05-08 15:43, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: John Crispin writes: Hi, Felix, Imre and myself had 2 calls last week lasting several hours and discussed the following proposal of conditions for a remerge that we would like to propose and have people vote on. Great to hear progress is be

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-08 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
John Crispin writes: > Hi, > > Felix, Imre and myself had 2 calls last week lasting several hours and > discussed > the following proposal of conditions for a remerge that we would like to > propose > and have people vote on. Great to hear progress is being made on this! I think the proposal l

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-08 Thread David Woodhouse
On Mon, 2017-05-08 at 15:19 +0200, John Crispin wrote: > > *) mailing list > - ask david to add the openwrt-adm and openwrt lists > - announce the switch to the infradead serves, asking people to  > unsubscribe if they have privacy issues with this > - import the user DB from the current openwrt a

[OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal

2017-05-08 Thread John Crispin
Hi, Felix, Imre and myself had 2 calls last week lasting several hours and discussed the following proposal of conditions for a remerge that we would like to propose and have people vote on. *) branding - the owrt side sees no option of using the lede brand - a (minor) majority voted for ope