Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Buying router SOC CPUs

2012-01-20 Thread jason duhamell
Yes, Indeed Broadcom is difficult to work with. So is Atheros since they were bought out by Qualcom. You should mention your goal price and how many units you want to manufacture and that can help me figure out what hardware you should use. You could always use a general SOC from a chinese vendor a

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Buying router SOC CPUs

2012-01-20 Thread jonsm...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 3:22 AM, jason duhamell wrote: > I have never used I2S before. Could you use an add-on Chip via the PCI port > on RT3052 by chance? There are lots of ways we can add it, but the cost of adding it ruins the cost advantage of the using the router chip. Broadcom BCM4717 has i

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Buying router SOC CPUs

2012-01-20 Thread Tarek Kilani
Hi, I have read your message in the thread, and I wonder how far have you come with your development? Do you have any website? Thanks in advance. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:11 AM, jason duhamell wrote: > Im going to manufacture Ralink and Realtek routers. The volume prices are > about 2.7 usd fo

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Buying router SOC CPUs

2012-01-20 Thread jason duhamell
I have never used I2S before. Could you use an add-on Chip via the PCI port on RT3052 by chance? Best Regards, Jason On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:42 PM, jonsm...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:11 PM, jason duhamell > wrote: > > Im going to manufacture Ralink and Realtek routers. Th

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Buying router SOC CPUs

2012-01-19 Thread jonsm...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:11 PM, jason duhamell wrote: > Im going to manufacture Ralink and Realtek routers. The volume prices are > about 2.7 usd for RT3050 and 3.45 usd for RT3052. Realteak > RTL8196c/rtl8188re combo is 2.25 usd. Im focused on Realtek at the moment > since the BOM is about 7 to

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Buying router SOC CPUs

2012-01-19 Thread jason duhamell
Im going to manufacture Ralink and Realtek routers. The volume prices are about 2.7 usd for RT3050 and 3.45 usd for RT3052. Realteak RTL8196c/rtl8188re combo is 2.25 usd. Im focused on Realtek at the moment since the BOM is about 7 to 8 usd. Jason On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:43 AM, jonsm...@gmail.c

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Buying router SOC CPUs

2012-01-19 Thread jonsm...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:21 PM, jason duhamell wrote: > You should try buying the samples off taobao.com > > Jason On taobao... Ralink RT3050 between $2 and $7, quite a spread. Ralink RT3052 between $2 and $5 Finished routers using these chips are between $20 and $30. So what's the real price

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Buying router SOC CPUs

2012-01-19 Thread jason duhamell
You should try buying the samples off taobao.com Jason On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:10 AM, jonsm...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Ben West wrote: > > The SD form-factor 802.11 card we were trying to integrate was based on > > ath5k, IIFC, which would support AP mode. I belie

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Buying router SOC CPUs

2012-01-19 Thread jonsm...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Ben West wrote: > The SD form-factor 802.11 card we were trying to integrate was based on > ath5k, IIFC, which would support AP mode.  I believe we got far enough to > test in STA mode (i.e.. test the wifi link to a conventional base station). >  Although, SD forma

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Buying router SOC CPUs

2012-01-19 Thread Ben West
The SD form-factor 802.11 card we were trying to integrate was based on ath5k, IIFC, which would support AP mode. I believe we got far enough to test in STA mode (i.e.. test the wifi link to a conventional base station). Although, SD format factor for peripherals is not ideal, and possibly obsole

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Buying router SOC CPUs

2012-01-19 Thread Mark Deneen
AP mode? On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Ben West wrote: > Many moons ago I was working with a startup developing a small > battery-powered device based around TI's DaVinci DM355 SoC. > http://www.ti.com/product/tms320dm355 > > We tried to use the MMC/SDIO interface to talk to an SD form-factor

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Buying router SOC CPUs

2012-01-19 Thread Ben West
Many moons ago I was working with a startup developing a small battery-powered device based around TI's DaVinci DM355 SoC. http://www.ti.com/product/tms320dm355 We tried to use the MMC/SDIO interface to talk to an SD form-factor 802.11 card (since the USB was already assigned elsewhere), but I cou

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Buying router SOC CPUs

2012-01-17 Thread jonsm...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Ben West wrote: > This unfortunately a common attitude from parts vendors, especially when you > are not buying in qty 10k+. We are in the 2-4K volume range which is too low for them to apparently care about. If they'd just put the chips into a distributor and giv

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Buying router SOC CPUs

2012-01-17 Thread Ben West
This unfortunately a common attitude from parts vendors, especially when you are not buying in qty 10k+. You might try asking vendors for a tray of samples for testing purposes, e.g. a dozen chips. On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:16 PM, jonsm...@gmail.com wrote: > Are any of the router SOC CPUs easily

[OpenWrt-Devel] Buying router SOC CPUs

2012-01-17 Thread jonsm...@gmail.com
Are any of the router SOC CPUs easily available for purchase? We've tried to buy some buy nobody wants to talk to us. As a work around we are using a lpc3130 ($3.50) and an OEM USB wifi stick ($4.00 ralink). We have to go through FCC anyway because of the 2.4Ghz 802.15.4 radio. -- Jon Smirl jon