[Openvpn-devel] New development process ready

2010-01-31 Thread Samuli Seppänen
Hi all, I discussed the main development process of OpenVPN with James and a few community developers in the IRC. This is what I ended up with: http://users.utu.fi/sjsepp/openvpn/getting_code_to_openvpn.png Let me know what you think - especially if there are problems that need to be fixed. The

[Openvpn-devel] Summary of the IRC meeting (28th Jan 2010)

2010-01-31 Thread Samuli Seppänen
Here's the summary for last Thursday's community meeting. -- Samuli Seppänen Community Manager OpenVPN Technologies, Inc irc freenode net: mattock COMMUNITY MEETING Place: #openvpn-discussion on irc.freenode.net List-Post: openvpn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Thursday, 28th January 2010 T

Re: [Openvpn-devel] Summary of the IRC meeting (28th Jan 2010)

2010-01-31 Thread Samuli Seppänen
Hi Alon, Could give a few concrete examples of the problems you've encountered with Trac and/or Trac developers? I've used Trac myself almost daily for ~3 years with no problems. I don't think it ever even went down during that time. Also, nobody else in the community site meetings (11th and 28th)

Re: [Openvpn-devel] Summary of the IRC meeting (28th Jan 2010)

2010-01-31 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
Trac is promises to provide all but provides none, I really don't know which project you managed with Trac, but without ticket dependencies and without proper CC lists and workflow it is difficult to manage a real project. You are better use separate products for each category. 1. Bugzilla - bug

Re: [Openvpn-devel] Summary of the IRC meeting (28th Jan 2010)

2010-01-31 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
Trac is *THE* worse ticketing system there is on earth. It is almost unmaintained and even if something happens at the project it is minor and unusable. For example ticket dependency and duplication is unavailable for years. If you like to have sane system, use bugzilla. Yes, I know this was rais

Re: [Openvpn-devel] Summary of the IRC meeting (28th Jan 2010)

2010-01-31 Thread Eric F Crist
On Jan 31, 2010, at 06:59:10, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: [ snip ] > You are better use separate products for each category. [ snip ] > 5. Forums... Why not mailing list with archive? As it always had been? > And use mailman? In regards to forums, not everyone wants to use a single source of informati

Re: [Openvpn-devel] Summary of the IRC meeting (28th Jan 2010)

2010-01-31 Thread David Sommerseth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31/01/10 15:41, Eric F Crist wrote: > On Jan 31, 2010, at 06:59:10, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > > [ snip ] > >> You are better use separate products for each category. > > [ snip ] > >> 5. Forums... Why not mailing list with archive? As it always had

Re: [Openvpn-devel] Summary of the IRC meeting (28th Jan 2010)

2010-01-31 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
Well, I can probably speak on my behalf... I won't use forums, so no help from me if traffic is diverted into forums. Alon. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:29 PM, David Sommerseth wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 31/01/10 15:41, Eric F Crist wrote: >> On Jan 31, 2010, at

Re: [Openvpn-devel] Summary of the IRC meeting (28th Jan 2010)

2010-01-31 Thread Eric F Crist
On Jan 31, 2010, at 09:39:07, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > Well, > I can probably speak on my behalf... > I won't use forums, so no help from me if traffic is diverted into forums. > > Alon. Understandable, but I don't recall anyone basing the forums solely on your support. There is no reason 'not' t