Re: [Openvpn-devel] OpenVPN project organization

2009-12-14 Thread David Sommerseth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/12/09 13:52, Samuli Seppänen wrote: > I can't see any reason why the test scripts should be secret. So better > have them in the open. I completely agree! That's the very best approach! > Do you think it'd be possible to have a > distributed

Re: [Openvpn-devel] OpenVPN project organization [WAS: Introducing OpenVPN Community Manager]

2009-12-14 Thread Samuli Seppänen
David Sommerseth ha scritto: > On 12/12/09 11:52, Samuli Seppänen wrote: > >> FWIW using a good (rather than merely adequate) revision control > >> system makes it much easier to keep the very latest code > >> on-line and still perform regression tests, keep separate > >> code branches for feature

Re: [Openvpn-devel] OpenVPN project organization

2009-12-14 Thread Samuli Seppänen
David Sommerseth ha scritto: > On 12/12/09 12:37, Samuli Seppänen wrote: > > Now, if we want to maintain stability, we need some way to test the > > patches. Automated tests could be used in many cases but building the > > test cases takes time. In addition I don't think automated tests catch > > n

Re: [Openvpn-devel] OpenVPN project organization [WAS: Introducing OpenVPN Community Manager]

2009-12-12 Thread David Sommerseth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/12/09 00:16, James Yonan wrote: >> >> However, it _could_ be a requirement that all patches be submitted >> with documentation. If not, I can't see how you'd want to >> include any functional changes without also having documentation >> so some

Re: [Openvpn-devel] OpenVPN project organization

2009-12-12 Thread David Sommerseth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/12/09 12:37, Samuli Seppänen wrote: > Now, if we want to maintain stability, we need some way to test the > patches. Automated tests could be used in many cases but building the > test cases takes time. In addition I don't think automated tests c

Re: [Openvpn-devel] OpenVPN project organization [WAS: Introducing OpenVPN Community Manager]

2009-12-12 Thread David Sommerseth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/12/09 11:52, Samuli Seppänen wrote: >> FWIW using a good (rather than merely adequate) revision control >> system makes it much easier to keep the very latest code >> on-line and still perform regression tests, keep separate >> code branches for

Re: [Openvpn-devel] OpenVPN project organization

2009-12-12 Thread Samuli Seppänen
Stefan Monnier ha scritto: >> One the one hand people expect OpenVPN to be rock-solid in both >> stability and security. In order to maintain this standard of quality, >> there needs to be a rigorous process of patch vetting. On the other >> hand, as an open source project, OpenVPN needs to be

Re: [Openvpn-devel] OpenVPN project organization [WAS: Introducing OpenVPN Community Manager]

2009-12-12 Thread Samuli Seppänen
> Via public discussion. Who wants to submit a patch when it > just disappears without comment. Public discussion has been > sorely lacking in the past. > I can't comment on how patches have been handled in the past, but not discussing and including them is a sure way to demotivate people. >>

Re: [Openvpn-devel] OpenVPN project organization

2009-12-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
> One the one hand people expect OpenVPN to be rock-solid in both > stability and security. In order to maintain this standard of quality, > there needs to be a rigorous process of patch vetting. On the other > hand, as an open source project, OpenVPN needs to be transparent and > open to con

Re: [Openvpn-devel] OpenVPN project organization [WAS: Introducing OpenVPN Community Manager]

2009-12-11 Thread James Yonan
Karl O. Pinc wrote: On 12/10/2009 04:39:57 AM, Samuli Seppänen wrote: David Sommerseth ha scritto: I believe James have received several patches in the past from people on the mailing list - or directly. They will either include patches into their own source trees, or kick them back to

Re: [Openvpn-devel] OpenVPN project organization [WAS: Introducing OpenVPN Community Manager]

2009-12-11 Thread Karl O. Pinc
On 12/10/2009 04:39:57 AM, Samuli Seppänen wrote: > David Sommerseth ha scritto: > > I believe James have received several patches in the past from > people on > > the mailing list - or directly. > > They will either include patches into their own source > trees, or > > kick them back to be rewo

Re: [Openvpn-devel] OpenVPN project organization [WAS: Introducing OpenVPN Community Manager]

2009-12-10 Thread Samuli Seppänen
David Sommerseth ha scritto: > On 09/12/09 11:54, Samuli Seppänen wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 12:25:09PM +0200, Samuli Seppänen wrote: > >> > >>> Hello everybody, > >>> > >>> I'm the newly appointed community manager for OpenVPN Technologies. I > >>> will be acting as a liaison between O

Re: [Openvpn-devel] OpenVPN project organization [WAS: Introducing OpenVPN Community Manager]

2009-12-09 Thread David Sommerseth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/12/09 11:54, Samuli Seppänen wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 12:25:09PM +0200, Samuli Seppänen wrote: >> >>> Hello everybody, >>> >>> I'm the newly appointed community manager for OpenVPN Technologies. I >>> will be acting as a liaison be

[Openvpn-devel] OpenVPN project organization [WAS: Introducing OpenVPN Community Manager]

2009-12-09 Thread Samuli Seppänen
> On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 12:25:09PM +0200, Samuli Seppänen wrote: > >> Hello everybody, >> >> I'm the newly appointed community manager for OpenVPN Technologies. I >> will be acting as a liaison between OpenVPN community and OpenVPN >> Technologies. I will help us (the company) make our develo