Re: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in

2016-09-26 Thread Silence Dogood
I figure if you have entity Y's workloads running on entity X's hardware... and that's 51% or greater portion of gross revenue... you are a public cloud. On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Kenny Johnston wrote: > That seems like a strange definition. It doesn't incorporate the usual > multi-tenan

Re: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in

2016-09-26 Thread Kenny Johnston
That seems like a strange definition. It doesn't incorporate the usual multi-tenancy requirement that traditionally separates private from public clouds. By that definition, Rackspace's Private Cloud offer, where we design, deploy and operate a single-tenant cloud on behalf of customers (in their d

Re: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in Barcelona

2016-09-26 Thread Matt Jarvis
Hi Blair Agree with you on a lot of that stuff, although on lifecycle management we certainly have a bunch of tooling in place to handle scenarios like initial creation of user environments ( basic network and router setup ), freezing resources for non-payment, offboarding of customers after accou

Re: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in Barcelona

2016-09-26 Thread Blair Bethwaite
Hi Matt, I think your dot points make sense. And yes, I was thinking about Science Cloud overlap. I see Science Clouds as potentially sharing most or all of these attributes (with the notable exception being charging in terms of end users seeing a $ figure, showback and/or instance/cpu hour quotas

Re: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in

2016-09-23 Thread Rochelle Grober
Hi Matt, At considerable risk of heading down a rabbit hole... how are you defining "public" cloud for these purposes? Cheers, Blair Any cloud that provides a cloud to a thirdparty in exchange for money. So, rent a VM, rent a collection of vms, lease a fully operational cloud spec'ed to

Re: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in Barcelona

2016-09-22 Thread Matt Jarvis
Hey Blair Now you've done it ! OK, I'll bite and have a go at categorising that a bit : 1. Multi-tenant - tenants need clear separation 2. Self service sign up - customers on board themselves 3. Some kind of charging model in place which requires resource accounting 4. API endpoints and possibly

Re: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in Barcelona

2016-09-21 Thread Blair Bethwaite
Hi Matt, At considerable risk of heading down a rabbit hole... how are you defining "public" cloud for these purposes? Cheers, Blair On 21 September 2016 at 18:14, Matt Jarvis wrote: > Given there are quite a few public cloud operators in Europe now, is there > any interest in a public cloud g

Re: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in Barcelona

2016-09-21 Thread Matt Van Winkle
Hey Matt, I think the conversation would be valuable. Historically, we have let the Large Deployment Team incubate Public Cloud topics because of the active members in that group. That doesn’t prevent us from organizing a session and/or some conversation around it, though. Put it as a suggest