Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2015-01-06 Thread Barrett, Carol L
: Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users James, Good morning, yes, this meeting starts on Wednesday. We look forward to having you join us tomorrow. - Megan Megan Rossetti Comcast Cloud Operations 11951 Freedom Dr, Reston, VA 20190 Desk: 703-468-9068 megan_rosse

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2015-01-06 Thread James Downs
Hello Carol, On Jan 5, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Barrett, Carol L wrote: > We could use your help in defining the outline for this flavor of reference > architecture and areas to focus on. If you want to help shape this direction > please join the team meeting on Tuesday 7AM Pacific. Dial-In Informati

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2015-01-05 Thread Barrett, Carol L
://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Win_the_Enterprise Thanks Carol From: Sean Hamilton [mailto:s...@seanhamilton.co.uk] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 5:15 AM To: matt Cc: openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users It seems to me that there is a certain lack of

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2015-01-02 Thread Anne Gentle
More below, using Sean's post since he said some of what I was thinking. On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Sean Hamilton wrote: > It seems to me that there is a certain lack of understanding here. As far > as I can tell, the initial post was asking for help in engaging end-users, > not discussing

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2015-01-02 Thread Sean Hamilton
It seems to me that there is a certain lack of understanding here. As far as I can tell, the initial post was asking for help in engaging end-users, not discussing deployment options for different Openstack installations. I'm extremely interested in reference architectures that I can pass onto my

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2015-01-01 Thread matt
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm from brooklynite, so as I see it, you couldn't have been more polite if you tried =P I think at the end of it all, OpenStack as a community does not want to own this part of the stack. They've been pretty vocal about that in times past. That being said, wit

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2015-01-01 Thread Adam Lawson
That sounded a bit harsh in retrospect, so my apologies if it's perceived as an uninvited slap on the hand. The topic keeps coming up and it's hard to tell potential consumers over and over the magnitude of engineering investment is improving. Would be great to be able to say that with a straight

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2015-01-01 Thread Adam Lawson
I apologize for my candor but sounds an awful like political candidates stating they understand what their constituents really want. We gotta avoid making claims of fact that are pure personal opinion, especially if our goal is market adoption of OpenStack and especially if we're deeply entrenched

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2014-12-30 Thread matt
It might be good to setup some sort of collaborative set of reference architectures for some basic examples of OpenStack in different areas. On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 4:18 PM, James Dempsey wrote: > On 31/12/14 05:09, Stuart Fox wrote: > > Hi James > > > > Great question and some good answers so f

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2014-12-30 Thread James Dempsey
On 31/12/14 05:09, Stuart Fox wrote: > Hi James > > Great question and some good answers so far although I think they done > go far enough. > They have (mostly) focused on other operators who, while a very > important part of any cloud, are not the primary audience. > Think more about the end user

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2014-12-30 Thread James Dempsey
On 31/12/14 04:40, matt wrote: > There are several fundamental problems in getting your feet wet in > OpenStack. > > First is that OpenStack is expecting to be installed into a rack of > systems, not one system. While there are work arounds such as devstack, > they fail to accurately produce a pr

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2014-12-30 Thread Tim Bell
> -Original Message- > From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] > Sent: 30 December 2014 16:52 > To: openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users > > On 12/30/2014 10:40 AM, matt wrote: > > I think the

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2014-12-30 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
On 12/30/2014 09:10 PM, matt wrote: > There are several fundamental problems in getting your feet wet in > OpenStack. > > First is that OpenStack is expecting to be installed into a rack of > systems, not one system. While there are work arounds such as devstack, > they fail to accurately produc

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2014-12-30 Thread Stuart Fox
Hi James Great question and some good answers so far although I think they done go far enough. They have (mostly) focused on other operators who, while a very important part of any cloud, are not the primary audience. Think more about the end users: devs, qa, marketing, data dudes etc etc. Focus

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2014-12-30 Thread matt
we're all entitled to our opinions =P I wouldn't classify ubuntu cloud archive as a distro. On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 12/30/2014 10:40 AM, matt wrote: > >> I think there was a view early on that distributions of openstack would >> emerge. This has not been the cas

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2014-12-30 Thread Jay Pipes
On 12/30/2014 10:40 AM, matt wrote: I think there was a view early on that distributions of openstack would emerge. This has not been the case. The market has spoken and it has rebuked this idea. Which market are you referring to? RDO, Mirantis OpenStack, and Ubuntu Cloud Archive are all pop

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2014-12-30 Thread matt
There are several fundamental problems in getting your feet wet in OpenStack. First is that OpenStack is expecting to be installed into a rack of systems, not one system. While there are work arounds such as devstack, they fail to accurately produce a production environment or even a useful facsi

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2014-12-30 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
Hello James, On 12/30/2014 02:27 AM, James Dempsey wrote: > So, back to my original question: > > What information do you give new users to help them be effective in the > cloud? What is your go-to demo for people who don't quite understand > what OpenStack is offering? How do you reach out to

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2014-12-29 Thread Tom Fifield
On 30/12/14 04:57, James Dempsey wrote: > Hey Operators, > > How do you help new OpenStack users learn to build awesome stuff in your > OpenStack clouds? > > I come from a more traditional Systems/Operations background, so when it > comes time to on-board someone who intends to build an applicati

Re: [Openstack-operators] Fostering OpenStack Users

2014-12-29 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Tue, 2014-12-30 at 09:57 +1300, James Dempsey wrote: > How do you help new OpenStack users learn to build awesome stuff in your > OpenStack clouds? Great topic. I don't think there is much literature specific for OpenStack around this. I have seen a lot of 'getting started' guides for other ser