Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-30 Thread Shamail Tahir
Hi everyone, The Product WG is finalizing our mid-cycle plans and I wanted to confirm the conclusion of this thread to bring into that discussion... Reviewing the numerous responses here, it seems like the majority opted for option #1 (one 'official' ops mid-cycle but not precluding regional ones

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-18 Thread Clayton O'Neill
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Erik McCormick wrote: > > 2) More technically we'll need to address the challenge of local > > sound, how to we ensure all the mostly spontaious talk in a large work > > session makes it to remote participants. Passing a mic is a bit > > cumbersome and hard to en

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-18 Thread Erik McCormick
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:44:03PM -0500, Erik McCormick wrote: > :I'm still fishing for more specific details, but here is a snapshot of > :how the Ceph Development Summit is handled. > : > :http://tracker.ceph.com/projects/ceph/wiki/CD

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-18 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:44:03PM -0500, Erik McCormick wrote: :I'm still fishing for more specific details, but here is a snapshot of :how the Ceph Development Summit is handled. : :http://tracker.ceph.com/projects/ceph/wiki/CDS_Jewel : :It was previously done via Google Hangouts, but is now done

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-18 Thread Erik McCormick
I'm still fishing for more specific details, but here is a snapshot of how the Ceph Development Summit is handled. http://tracker.ceph.com/projects/ceph/wiki/CDS_Jewel It was previously done via Google Hangouts, but is now done using Bluejeans. This is interesting especially since I believe Bluej

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-17 Thread Matt Jarvis
I agree with all of the points that are being raised, but the inverse has been true for most of the European operators at every other midcycle. And the same presumably applies to the Asian operators. As OpenStack goes global, we need to find ways of bringing all those voices into the conversation.

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-17 Thread JJ Asghar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/17/15 1:34 PM, Matt Jarvis wrote: > From my perspective we're happy to put in place anything that we > can reasonably do, and that will increase participation. Bear in > mind that we don't have massive amounts of money or people - the > costs o

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-17 Thread Matt Jarvis
>From my perspective we're happy to put in place anything that we can reasonably do, and that will increase participation. Bear in mind that we don't have massive amounts of money or people - the costs of the event as it stands is just about covered by the sponsors we have, and I'm putting most of

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-17 Thread Erik McCormick
welcome. If not, we can certainly post >> to their list and ask for suggestions. I imagine Sage might pipe up >> with some interesting thoughts at the very least. >> >> > >> > >> > >> > From: tadow...@gmail.com [mailto:tadow...@gmail.co

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-17 Thread David Medberry
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Erik McCormick wrote: > We're deciding not to innovate a solution to allow people to > participate in a group that is attempting to provide innovative ideas. > How ironic. I actually don't think it would require much innovation. > The Ceph guys run their entire d

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-17 Thread Jesse Keating
we can certainly post > to their list and ask for suggestions. I imagine Sage might pipe up > with some interesting thoughts at the very least. > > > > > > > > > From: tadow...@gmail.com [mailto:tadow...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Matt > > Fischer > > Sent: Tuesday, N

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-17 Thread Matt Fischer
> > > We're deciding not to innovate a solution to allow people to > participate in a group that is attempting to provide innovative ideas. > How ironic. I actually don't think it would require much innovation. > The Ceph guys run their entire design summit remotely, and I'm certain > that it way b

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-17 Thread Erik McCormick
nt: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 10:48 AM > To: Donald Talton > Cc: Joe Topjian; Jonathan Proulx; openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion. > > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Donald Talton > wrote: > &g

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-17 Thread Donald Talton
@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion. On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Donald Talton mailto:donaldtal...@fico.com>> wrote: I’ll +1 option 1 too, if we can get remote participation that would suffice. Having been to several of these I think t

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-17 Thread David Medberry
Following up to what Matt said, even for the service (nova, cinder, etc) mid-cycles I've been in, typically only 1 or 2 folks participate remotely and they make sure to have someone pay attention/alert them when their topics are coming up. I don't think remote/virtual scales beyond 1-2 remote parti

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-17 Thread Matt Fischer
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Donald Talton wrote: > I’ll +1 option 1 too, if we can get remote participation that would > suffice. > > > Having been to several of these I think that we can call remote participation a stretch goal at best, and if I'm being honest, I just don't think it's going

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-17 Thread Matt Jarvis
result from each > meeting, that would be ideal. > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Edgar Magana [mailto:edgar.mag...@workday.com] > >Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 9:10 AM > >To: Donald Talton; Jonathan Proulx; > openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org > >

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Curtis
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Shamail wrote: > Hi, > >> On Nov 16, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Jonathan Proulx wrote: >> >> >> Let me restate the question a bit as I think I'm hearing two different >> responses that may be getting conflated. >> >> Option 1: There's a single Ops Midcycle that shifts ar

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Anne Gentle
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Jonathan Proulx wrote: > > Let me restate the question a bit as I think I'm hearing two different > responses that may be getting conflated. > > Option 1: There's a single Ops Midcycle that shifts around and we > look at ways to increase remote participation. (o

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Donald Talton
I’ll +1 option 1 too, if we can get remote participation that would suffice. From: Joe Topjian [mailto:j...@topjian.net] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 12:57 PM To: Jonathan Proulx Cc: openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Joe Topjian
+1 Option 1 On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Jonathan Proulx wrote: > > Let me restate the question a bit as I think I'm hearing two different > responses that may be getting conflated. > > Option 1: There's a single Ops Midcycle that shifts around and we > look at ways to increase remote part

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Jesse Keating
: >> :From: Matt Jarvis > matt.jar...@datacentred.co.uk>> >> :Date: Monday, November 16, 2015 at 9:23 AM >> :To: Jonathan Proulx mailto:j...@csail.mit.edu>> >> :Cc: "openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org> openstack-operators@lists.openstack.o

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Jonathan Proulx
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Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Tim Bell
t result from each meeting, >that would be ideal. > >-Original Message- >From: Edgar Magana [mailto:edgar.mag...@workday.com] >Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 9:10 AM >To: Donald Talton; Jonathan Proulx; openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org >Subject: Re: [Openstack-oper

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Matt Fischer
Matt Jarvis matt.jar...@datacentred.co.uk>> > :Date: Monday, November 16, 2015 at 9:23 AM > :To: Jonathan Proulx mailto:j...@csail.mit.edu>> > :Cc: "openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org>" < > openstack-operat

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Shamail
Hi, > On Nov 16, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Jonathan Proulx wrote: > > > Let me restate the question a bit as I think I'm hearing two different > responses that may be getting conflated. > > Option 1: There's a single Ops Midcycle that shifts around and we > look at ways to increase remote participati

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Kruithof, Piet
: >:From: Matt Jarvis >mailto:matt.jar...@datacentred.co.uk>> >:Date: Monday, November 16, 2015 at 9:23 AM >:To: Jonathan Proulx mailto:j...@csail.mit.edu>> >:Cc: >"openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-operators@lists. >openstack.o

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Jonathan Proulx
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Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Jonathan Proulx
Let me restate the question a bit as I think I'm hearing two different responses that may be getting conflated. Option 1: There's a single Ops Midcycle that shifts around and we look at ways to increase remote participation. (obviously this doesn't preclude other meetups) Option 2: There are mu

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Kruithof, Piet
ack-operators@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion. +1 from me, although I am admittedly biased ;) Personally I think the wider participation in the ops feedback loop can only be a positive thing, and there are definitely different p

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Matt Jarvis
+1 from me, although I am admittedly biased ;) Personally I think the wider participation in the ops feedback loop can only be a positive thing, and there are definitely different perspectives and concerns to be had from European operators given the different commercial landscape. I'm sure the same

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Donald Talton
k.org Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion. I am in the same position that Donald here. It is hard to justify that trip, however I believe we can multiple Ops Meet-ups around the world without expecting an official one. As long as during the meet-up the feedba

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Edgar Magana
t;From: Jonathan Proulx [mailto:j...@csail.mit.edu] >Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 8:51 AM >To: openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org >Subject: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion. > >Hi All, > >1st User Committee IRC meeting will be today at 19:00UTC on >#o

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Donald Talton
8:51 AM To: openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org Subject: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion. Hi All, 1st User Committee IRC meeting will be today at 19:00UTC on #openstack-meeting, we haven't exactly settled on an agenda yet but I hope to raise this issue the... I

Re: [Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Erik McCormick
I thought we were working toward a regional approach rather than having an "official" single meetup. Are you proposing to scrap the North America meetup entirely? What does official vs. unofficial entail? -Erik On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Jonathan Proulx wrote: > Hi All, > > 1st User Commi

[Openstack-operators] OPs Midcycle location discussion.

2015-11-16 Thread Jonathan Proulx
Hi All, 1st User Committee IRC meeting will be today at 19:00UTC on #openstack-meeting, we haven't exactly settled on an agenda yet but I hope to raise this issue the... It has been suggested that we make the February 15-16 European Ops Meetup in Manchester UK [1] the 'official' OPs Midcycle. Pr