Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-02-03 Thread Eric Windisch
> > > Quite seriously: open source projects are absolutely developed for > their users. Thats the entire proposition of both free and open source > software and licenses: that users should have the freedom to modify > things to meet their needs, *and* that users will be building what > they need in

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-02-02 Thread Robert Collins
On 31 January 2015 at 06:18, Eric Windisch wrote: >> >> That's a failing of the Nova team that must be addressed. As maintainers >> it is our job to produce software that meets the needs of our users. We >> have 35% of users reporting they use this EC2 code, so fixing any problems >> should be a h

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-30 Thread Eric Windisch
> > > That's a failing of the Nova team that must be addressed. As maintainers > it is our job to produce software that meets the needs of our users. We > have 35% of users reporting they use this EC2 code, so fixing any problems > should be a high priority item & these bugs considered release bloc

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-29 Thread Michael Still
iewing it with the operators is a viable target for Kilo. This can then >>>> be reviewed in one of the joint developer/operator sessions for >>>> feasibility. >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> > -Original Message- >>>> > From: C

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-29 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:37 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 01:39:31PM -0800, Michael Still wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Tim Bell wrote: >> > There are currently 35% of openstack clouds from the survey using >> > this feature. I would therefore propose that

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-29 Thread George Shuklin
On 01/28/2015 09:56 PM, Sean Dague wrote: The following review for Kilo deprecates the EC2 API in Nova - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150929/ There are a number of reasons for this. The EC2 API has been slowly rotting in the Nova tree, never was highly tested, implements a substantially olde

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-29 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 01:39:31PM -0800, Michael Still wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Tim Bell wrote: > > There are currently 35% of openstack clouds from the survey using > > this feature. I would therefore propose that this be reviewed with > > the operators in detail before a rapid

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-29 Thread Belmiro Moreira
>> >>> Tim >>> > -Original Message- >>> > From: Christian Berendt [mailto:christ...@berendt.io] >>> > Sent: 28 January 2015 21:29 >>> > To: openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org >>> > Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Dep

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-28 Thread Saju M
; From: Christian Berendt [mailto:christ...@berendt.io] >> > Sent: 28 January 2015 21:29 >> > To: openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org >> > Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in >> Nova for >> > Kilo release >>

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-28 Thread Alex Baretto
t; > Sent: 28 January 2015 21:29 > > To: openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org > > Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in > Nova for > > Kilo release > > > > On 01/28/2015 08:56 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > > > Comments ar

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/28/2015 09:38 PM, Tim Bell wrote: > I would therefore propose that the new EC2 API modules are validated in > production and at scale before depreciating the existing functions. I think > validating, packaging and deploying to a reasonable number of clouds and > reviewing it with the opera

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-28 Thread Michael Still
anuary 2015 21:29 >> To: openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org >> Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for >> Kilo release >> >> On 01/28/2015 08:56 PM, Sean Dague wrote: >> > Comments are welcomed, but we've attem

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-28 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 08:38:02PM +, Tim Bell wrote: > There are currently 35% of openstack clouds from the survey using this > feature. I would therefore propose that this be reviewed with the > operators in detail before a rapid depreciation is performed. To the > best of my knowledge, the n

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-28 Thread Tim Bell
y 2015 21:29 > To: openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for > Kilo release > > On 01/28/2015 08:56 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > > Comments are welcomed, but we've attempted to get more people engag

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-28 Thread Christian Berendt
On 01/28/2015 08:56 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > Comments are welcomed, but we've attempted to get more people engaged to > address these issues over the last 18 months, and never really had > anyone step up. Without some real maintainers of this code in Nova (and > tests somewhere in the community) it'

[Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-28 Thread Sean Dague
The following review for Kilo deprecates the EC2 API in Nova - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150929/ There are a number of reasons for this. The EC2 API has been slowly rotting in the Nova tree, never was highly tested, implements a substantially older version of what AWS has, and currently can