Thank you Jeremy for noticing what went wrong and acting quickly to repair
it, and for starting this thread.
I think calls to increase documentation are fine... writing and approving
the same change to 60+ modules is getting rather tired though. Maybe one
file in system-config or openstackci with
Ok, but i continue seeing ths problem again between what infra says it's
reasonable,
and i fully believe your are right, and what downstream users are
expecting on that.
So why be opinionated on it? My opinion is to add the possibility to the
module,
defaulting to false so when an user enables
On 2015-08-13 09:16:46 -0700 (-0700), Colleen Murphy wrote:
[...]
> Downstream users of a puppet module will always expect the
> module to [...] start services.
[...]
I find it hard to believe that this is a common expectation among
system administrators, but it may be a cultural/generational bias
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> Change https://review.openstack.org/168306 for puppet-zuul came to
> my attention earlier today when it merged. After a quick discussion
> on IRC, Spencer proposed a revert which I approved so that we can
> get a little more discussion goin
Fabien Boucher writes:
> Hi,
>
> I apologize I wasn't here yesterday to discuss about that on IRC.
> I was surprised also about not letting puppet ensuring that the service is
> running and
> now I understand well the reason behind it. But I think too, that for
> most of downstream users (like t
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 09:15:37PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> Change https://review.openstack.org/168306 for puppet-zuul came to
> my attention earlier today when it merged. After a quick discussion
> on IRC, Spencer proposed a revert which I approved so that we can
> get a little more discussi
Hi,
I apologize I wasn't here yesterday to discuss about that on IRC.
I was surprised also about not letting puppet ensuring that the service is
running and
now I understand well the reason behind it. But I think too, that for
most of downstream users (like those of puppet-openstackci) the most o
I lean towards the second option that Jeremy pointed out.
External users just expect Puppet to bring up services configured by the
module, it makes sense to me having 'running' as default and override that
at the node or wrapper module.
Regards
El 13/8/2015 8:30, "Yolanda Robla Mota"
escribió:
Hi
It's great that you expose that because this review passed through a lot
of eyes and we all +2, we all assumed that the manifest not managing
the zuul services was a bug.
From my perspective, i see advantages on puppet managing these
services, but I can understand that not all end users will wa
Change https://review.openstack.org/168306 for puppet-zuul came to
my attention earlier today when it merged. After a quick discussion
on IRC, Spencer proposed a revert which I approved so that we can
get a little more discussion going about this topic.
First, I'm really sorry I didn't see and wei
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