Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][Technical Committee] nova-network -> Neutron. Throwing a wrench in the Neutron gap analysis

2014-08-10 Thread Tom Fifield
On 09/08/14 05:09, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2014 01:41 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 08/06/2014 01:40 AM, Tom Fifield wrote: On 06/08/14 13:30, Robert Collins wrote: On 6 August 2014 17:27, Tom Fifield wrote: On 06/08/14 13:24, Robert Collins wrote: What happened to your DB migrations

Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-13 Thread Tom Fifield
On 13/08/14 19:55, Boris Pavlovic wrote: > Matt, > > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 07:06:11PM -0400, Zane Bitter wrote: > > On 11/08/14 16:21, Matthew Treinish wrote: > > >I'm sorry, but the fact that the > > >docs in the rally tree has a section for user testimonials [4] I feel > s

Re: [openstack-dev] Contact information required for ICLA -- getting a server error

2014-08-18 Thread Tom Fifield
On 18/08/14 19:01, Udi Kalifon wrote: > Hi. > > I am trying to update my contact information in order to submit my first > gerrit review. I go to review.openstack.org and log in, then go to my account > settings and click on "Contact Information". I provide my address and click > "Save Changes"

Re: [openstack-dev] Criteria for giving a -1 in a review

2014-08-21 Thread Tom Fifield
On 22/08/14 00:40, Adam Young wrote: > On 08/21/2014 12:21 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 05:05:04PM +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: >>> "I would prefer that you didn't merge this." >>> >>> i.e. The project is better off without it. >> A bit off topic, but I've never liked thi

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] webnumbr bug graphs appear dead for bug triage

2014-09-10 Thread Tom Fifield
On 10/09/14 22:51, Sean Dague wrote: > All the various bug triage graphs point out to webnumbr urls from our > wiki - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage > > All of webnumbr appears to be dead and not returning any data. > > Why this service was used predates me. Does anyone know why? Anyon

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Potential to increase min required libvirt version to 0.9.8 ?

2013-11-19 Thread Tom Fifield
On 20/11/13 14:33, Robert Collins wrote: On 20 November 2013 08:02, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: Currently the Nova libvirt driver is declaring that it wants a minimum of libvirt 0.9.6. ... If there are other distros I've missed which expect to support deployment of Icehouse please add them to t

[openstack-dev] OFF TOPIC Re: Image without host-id

2013-11-19 Thread Tom Fifield
On 20/11/13 15:43, Santosh Kumar wrote: I am following Havana guide for creating three node set up. Everything has been installed and configured. However not able to create network for VMs , That's why when creating VM .. they come out be without host-id ( VM gets lauch ). #Nova network-creat

Re: [openstack-dev] Propose "project story wiki" idea

2013-11-19 Thread Tom Fifield
Love the idea Boris - a nice read :) Regards, Tom On 20/11/13 16:45, Michael Bright wrote: +1 On 20 November 2013 06:33, Boris Pavlovic mailto:bpavlo...@mirantis.com>> wrote: Hi stackers, Currently what I see is growing amount of interesting projects, that at least I would lik

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack][nova][social-apects] Social aspects shouldn't impact on dev process

2013-11-20 Thread Tom Fifield
Hi Boris, I'm sorry that you've had a frustrating experience :) Even I've written purge scripts before - so I know that this is a very useful feature :) I think that some of it was probably just due to timing issues - I've observed that things behave a bit differently than normal around rele

[openstack-dev] Friday Dec 20th - Doc Bug Day

2013-11-21 Thread Tom Fifield
All, This month, docs reaches 500 bugs, making it the 2nd-largest project by bug count in all of OpenStack. Yes, it beats Cinder, Horizon, Swift, Keystone and Glance, and will soon surpass Neutron. In order to start the new year in a slightly better state, we have arranged a bug squash day:

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Creating "recipes" for mimicking behavior of nova-networking network managers.

2013-12-04 Thread Tom Fifield
On 05/12/13 01:14, Brent Eagles wrote: > Hi, > > As part of the Icehouse nova-networking parity effort, we need to > describe how nova-networking managers work and how the behavior is > mapped to neutron. The benefits are: > > 1. It aides migration: deployers who are nova-network savvy can see ho

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] Friday Dec 20th - Doc Bug Day

2013-12-12 Thread Tom Fifield
Reminder: Friday next week - Doc Bug Day. Current number of doc bugs: 505 On 22/11/13 11:27, Tom Fifield wrote: > All, > > This month, docs reaches 500 bugs, making it the 2nd-largest project by > bug count in all of OpenStack. Yes, it beats Cinder, Horizon, Swift, > Keystone

Re: [openstack-dev] [bugs] definition of triaged

2013-12-15 Thread Tom Fifield
On 13/12/13 19:13, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Robert Collins wrote: >> " >> Confirmed The bug was reproduced or confirmed as a genuine bug >> Triaged The bug comments contain a full analysis on how to properly >> fix the issue >> " >> >> From wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Bugs >> >> Putting aside the diffic

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] Today - Doc Bug Day

2013-12-19 Thread Tom Fifield
Reminder: Doc Bug Day is today. On 13/12/13 08:16, Tom Fifield wrote: > Reminder: Friday next week - Doc Bug Day. > > Current number of doc bugs: 505 > > On 22/11/13 11:27, Tom Fifield wrote: >> All, >> >> This month, docs reaches 500 bugs, making it the 2nd-l

[openstack-dev] Status of nova-network deprecation

2014-01-06 Thread Tom Fifield
Hi all, It's a couple of weeks out from the slated "decision" milestone (icehouse-2) to potentially deprecate nova-network. Since I guess there's still time to affect this outcome, but I haven't seen much communication recently, here's a thread! I think a series of beautiful write-ups could

Re: [openstack-dev] [stackalytics] Pull request on default_data.json (addition of a domain)

2014-02-26 Thread Tom Fifield
Hi Fukuda san, You will probably receive an automated message like this soon, but: stackforge/stackalytics uses Gerrit for code review, and does not accept pull requests on github. To commit your change, you will need to follow the instructions on the OpenStack Gerrit Workflow: https://wiki.

[openstack-dev] [glance] Switching from sql_connection to [database] connection ?

2014-02-26 Thread Tom Fifield
Hi, As best I can tell, all other services now use this syntax for configuring database connections: [database] connection = sqlite:///etc,omg whereas glance appears to still use [DEFAULT] ... sql_connection = sqlite:///etc,omg Is there a plan to switch to the former during Icehouse devel

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-08 Thread Tom Fifield
On 09/01/15 08:06, Maru Newby wrote: > >> On Jan 8, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Sean Dague wrote: >> >> On 01/08/2015 06:41 PM, Maru Newby wrote: >>> As per a recent exchange on #openstack-neutron, I’ve been asked to present >>> my views on this effort. What follows is in no way intended to detract >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] Vancouver Design Summit format changes

2015-01-11 Thread Tom Fifield
On 10/01/15 03:26, Michael Dorman wrote: > (X-posted to -operators.) > > Any thoughts on how the ops track spaces would be requested, since there > is not a real ‘operators project’, PTL, etc.? Based on our past events and summit survey feedback from Paris, I've mentioned to Thierry that we prob

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Summit schedule draft

2014-04-27 Thread Tom Fifield
On 28/04/14 05:02, Michael Still wrote: Hi. I've just pushed a draft summit schedule to sched.org. I'd be interested in people who proposed a session that was accepted checking if their session time clashes with other commitments that they have, as well as people who are passionate about a given

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] explanations on the current state of config file handling

2014-05-02 Thread Tom Fifield
On 02/05/14 22:09, Mark McClain wrote: > > On May 2, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > >> Some non insignificant number of devstack changes related to neutron >> seem to be neutron plugins having to do all kinds of manipulation of >> extra config files. The grenade upgrade issue in neutron w

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Gerrit downtime on May 23 for project renames

2014-05-21 Thread Tom Fifield
On 22/05/14 04:55, James E. Blair wrote: Hi, On Friday, May 23 at 21:00 UTC Gerrit will be unavailable for about 20 minutes while we rename some projects. Existing reviews, project watches, etc, should all be carried over. The current list of projects that we will rename is: stackforge/barbic

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Gerrit downtime on May 23 for project renames

2014-05-21 Thread Tom Fifield
On 22/05/14 05:48, James E. Blair wrote: Tom Fifield writes: May I ask, will the old names have some kind of redirect to the new names? Of course you may ask! And it's a great question! But sadly the answer is "no". Unfortunately, Gerrit's support for renaming proje

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Gerrit downtime on May 23 for project renames

2014-05-21 Thread Tom Fifield
On 22/05/14 11:06, Kyle Mestery wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Tom Fifield wrote: On 22/05/14 05:48, James E. Blair wrote: Tom Fifield writes: May I ask, will the old names have some kind of redirect to the new names? Of course you may ask! And it's a great question!

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Unifying configuration file

2014-06-17 Thread Tom Fifield
On 17/06/14 23:30, Arnaud Legendre wrote: @ZhiYan: I don't like the idea of removing the sample configuration file(s) from the git repository. Many people do not want to have to checkout the entire codebase and tox every time they have to verify a variable name in a configuration file. I know

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Unifying configuration file

2014-06-17 Thread Tom Fifield
On 17/06/14 23:43, Julien Danjou wrote: On Tue, Jun 17 2014, Arnaud Legendre wrote: @ZhiYan: I don't like the idea of removing the sample configuration file(s) from the git repository. Many people do not want to have to checkout the entire codebase and tox every time they have to verify a varia

[openstack-dev] Release notes as we go?

2014-06-17 Thread Tom Fifield
Hi, Remembering the last minute rush to get release notes ready for Icehouse, I was very pleased to see that the Juno release notes page has been already started! https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Juno Perhaps if people are working on release-note worthy things, they could add a

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Xen docs haven't been updated in two years

2014-06-18 Thread Tom Fifield
Hi all, Almost a year ago a blueprint entitled "Re-document Xen integration with OpenStack" was created, because at that time, the Xen documentation hadn't been touched for more than a year. We also added a prominent warning on the lead page that the "...section is low quality, and contains

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Docs for new plugins

2014-03-12 Thread Tom Fifield
On 13/03/14 13:43, Mohammad Banikazemi wrote: Thanks for your response. It looks like the page you are referring to gets populated automatically and I see a link already added to it for the new plugin. I also see a file corresponding to the new plugin having been created and populated with the p

[openstack-dev] Operators & Design Summit ideas for Atlanta

2014-03-16 Thread Tom Fifield
All, Many times we've heard a desire for more feedback and interaction from users. However, their attendance at design summit sessions is met with varied success. However, last summit, by happy accident, a swift session turned into a something a lot more user driven. A competent user was abl

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] sample config files should be ignored in git...

2014-03-26 Thread Tom Fifield
On 27/03/14 02:10, Clint Byrum wrote: > This is an issue that affects all of our git repos. If you are using > oslo.config, you will likely also be using the sample config generator. > > However, for some reason we are all checking this generated file in. > This makes no sense, as we humans are no

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] sample config files should be ignored in git...

2014-03-27 Thread Tom Fifield
On 28/03/14 04:58, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Sean Dague mailto:s...@dague.net>> wrote: On 03/27/2014 02:54 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:21 AM, Dirk Müller mailto:d...@dmllr.de> >

Re: [openstack-dev] Operators & Design Summit ideas for Atlanta

2014-03-28 Thread Tom Fifield
Thanks to those projects that responded. I've proposed sessions in swift, ceilometer, tripleO and horizon. On 17/03/14 07:54, Tom Fifield wrote: All, Many times we've heard a desire for more feedback and interaction from users. However, their attendance at design summit sessions i

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Switching from sql_connection to [database] connection ?

2014-03-29 Thread Tom Fifield
On 27/02/14 18:47, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 27/02/14 12:12 +0800, Tom Fifield wrote: Hi, As best I can tell, all other services now use this syntax for configuring database connections: [database] connection = sqlite:///etc,omg whereas glance appears to still use [DEFAULT

[openstack-dev] Doc to with pointers on how to review?

2014-03-30 Thread Tom Fifield
Hi, Just wondering, do we have a document somewhere that educates people on how to do a code review? eg giving a few pointers that reviewers for a particular project normally look for So far everything I've seen (aside from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritJenkinsGit#Reviewing_a_Change)

Re: [openstack-dev] Doc to with pointers on how to review?

2014-03-30 Thread Tom Fifield
On 31/03/14 12:24, Ruslan Kamaldinov wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Tom Fifield wrote: Hi, Just wondering, do we have a document somewhere that educates people on how to do a code review? eg giving a few pointers that reviewers for a particular project normally look for Hi Tom

Re: [openstack-dev] bug/129135

2014-03-31 Thread Tom Fifield
Yes, that does seem odd. See also related Documentation bugs and patch: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1273412 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81858/ Regards, Tom On 01/04/14 03:42, Nathanael Burton wrote: Also, how does this work for RHEL-based distros where they tend to

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Switching from sql_connection to [database] connection ?

2014-04-01 Thread Tom Fifield
ewing, IFY. zhiyan Sent from my iPad On 2014年3月30日, at 13:04, Tom Fifield mailto:t...@openstack.org>> wrote: On 27/02/14 18:47, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 27/02/14 12:12 +0800, Tom Fifield wrote: Hi, As best I can tell, all other services now use this syntax for configuring data

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][neutron][docs] netconn-api doc - adding a new chapter

2014-04-03 Thread Tom Fifield
Feel free to submit doc patches that don't build for review - docs reviewers are known to fix markup for you :) On 04/04/14 11:11, Rajdeep Dua wrote: I was trying to modify netconn-api docs with a new chapter. Added a file in v2.0/ch_neutron_python_client.xml modified: v2.0/neutron-api-guide

Re: [openstack-dev] Operators & Design Summit ideas for Atlanta

2014-04-06 Thread Tom Fifield
ession slotted like these other products? Thanks! Matt On 3/28/14 2:01 AM, "Tom Fifield" wrote: Thanks to those projects that responded. I've proposed sessions in swift, ceilometer, tripleO and horizon. On 17/03/14 07:54, Tom Fifield wrote: All, Many times we've heard a

Re: [openstack-dev] Operators & Design Summit ideas for Atlanta

2014-04-06 Thread Tom Fifield
7, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Tom Fifield wrote: So far, there's been no comment from anyone working on nova, so there's been no session proposed. I can, of course, propose a session ... but without buy-in from the project team it's unlikely to be accepted. Regards, Tom On 01/04/14

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Switching from sql_connection to [database] connection ?

2014-04-08 Thread Tom Fifield
Due to the lack of response, I'm proposing to switch the documentation back to using sql_connection. I hope there wasn't a plan to deprecate this option any time soon :) Regards, Tom On 02/04/14 10:22, Tom Fifield wrote: Since it's missed RC1, I'm guessing that thi

[openstack-dev] [horizon][heat] Unusable error messages in dashboard for Orchestration

2014-04-10 Thread Tom Fifield
Hi, Lodged a bug the day after Havana came out to hope to get this usability problem addressed. https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1241395 Essentially, if something goes wrong creating a stack through the dashboard, all the user ever sees is: "Stack creation failed." ... which is, a

[openstack-dev] [glance] Release notes for Icehouse

2014-04-16 Thread Tom Fifield
Hi, Is someone working on release notes for glance? At the moment it's looking pretty bare :) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Icehouse Regards, Tom ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openst

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit planning

2014-09-21 Thread Tom Fifield
hey do not >>>> participate in the IRC team meetings, simply because they have no idea >>>> that these exist or maybe do not feel comfortable there. So they will >>>> not have any exposure to the process. >>>> >>>> My 0.02 Shekels. >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Get rid of the sample config file

2014-09-25 Thread Tom Fifield
On 26/09/14 03:35, Morgan Fainberg wrote: > -Original Message- > From: John Griffith > Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > > > Date: September 25, 2014 at 12:27:52 > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > > > Subject: Re: [op

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading

2014-10-01 Thread Tom Fifield
Hi Joe, On 01/10/14 09:10, joehuang wrote: > OpenStack cascading: to integrate multi-site / multi-vendor OpenStack > instances into one cloud with OpenStack API exposed. > Cells: a single OpenStack instance scale up methodology Just to let you know - there are actually some users out there that

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] [I18N] compiling translation message catalogs

2014-10-02 Thread Tom Fifield
On 02/10/14 14:32, Łukasz Jernaś wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Akihiro Motoki wrote: >> Hi, > > Hi Akihiro! > >> To display localized strings, we need to compile translated message >> catalogs (PO files) into compiled one (MO files). >> I would like to discuss and get a consensus who

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-docs] Contributing to docs without Docbook -- YES you can!

2014-10-05 Thread Tom Fifield
On 04/10/14 04:03, Nick Chase wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Stefano Maffulli > wrote: > > 1. Pick an existing topic or create a new topic. For new topics, > we're > > primarily interested in deployment scenarios. > > 2. Develop cont

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-docs] Contributing to docs without Docbook -- YES you can!

2014-10-05 Thread Tom Fifield
On 06/10/14 11:38, Nick Chase wrote: > On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Tom Fifield <mailto:t...@openstack.org>> wrote: > > On 04/10/14 04:03, Nick Chase wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Stefano Maffulli <mailto:stef...@op

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] [I18N] compiling translation message catalogs

2014-10-08 Thread Tom Fifield
On 08/10/14 20:51, James Page wrote: > On 07/10/14 18:00, Julie Pichon wrote: >> I'm adding a couple of people on cc: with an interest in Ubuntu and >> SUSE packaging: the Horizon team would love to have your opinion on >> this (it came up during our weekly meeting). > >> The current consensus is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-21 Thread Tom Fifield
On 22/10/14 03:07, Andrew Laski wrote: > > On 10/21/2014 04:31 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: >> On 10/20/2014 08:00 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: >>> One of the big goals for the Kilo cycle by users and developers of the >>> cells functionality within Nova is to get it to a point where it can be >>> conside

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Permissions differences for glance image-create between Icehouse and Juno

2014-10-27 Thread Tom Fifield
This was covered in the release notes for glance, under "Upgrade notes": https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Juno#Upgrade_Notes_3 * The ability to upload a public image is now admin-only by default. To continue to use the previous behaviour, edit the publicize_image flag in etc/policy.js

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Permissions differences for glance image-create between Icehouse and Juno

2014-10-27 Thread Tom Fifield
he operation... > > Which is why I'm curious what exactly I'm supposed to do :) > > -jay > > On 10/27/2014 09:04 PM, Tom Fifield wrote: >> This was covered in the release notes for glance, under "Upgrade notes": >> >> https://wiki.openstack.o

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] fix latency on requirements breakage

2014-11-18 Thread Tom Fifield
On 18/11/14 18:51, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Christopher Yeoh wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Sean Dague > > wrote: >> >> waiting extra long for valid test results. People don't realize their >> code can't pass and just keep pushing patches up consuming resou

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Announcing Keystone Middleware Project

2014-06-24 Thread Tom Fifield
On 25/06/14 07:24, Morgan Fainberg wrote: The Keystone team would like to announce the official split of python-keystoneclient and the Keystone middleware code. Over time the middleware (auth_token, s3_token, ec2_token) has developed into a fairly expansive code base and includes dependencies tha

[openstack-dev] Call for Speakers Open, OpenStack Summit in Paris

2014-07-01 Thread Tom Fifield
Hi Everyone, *The Call for Speakers is OPEN for the November OpenStack Summit in Paris! Submit your talks here: https://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-paris-summit-2014/call-for-speakers/.* There are a few new speaking tracks in the Summit lineup this year so please review the below list

Re: [openstack-dev] debug logs and defaults was (Thoughts on the patch test failure rate and moving forward)

2014-07-27 Thread Tom Fifield
On 25/07/14 06:05, Robert Collins wrote: On 25 July 2014 08:01, Sean Dague wrote: I'd like us to think about whether they is anything we can do to make life easier in these kind of hard debugging scenarios where the regular logs are not sufficient. Agreed. Honestly, though we do also need to

Re: [openstack-dev] debug logs and defaults was (Thoughts on the patch test failure rate and moving forward)

2014-07-27 Thread Tom Fifield
On 28/07/14 09:18, Robert Collins wrote: On 28 July 2014 13:11, Tom Fifield wrote: If a starting point is needed, the last discussion we had around 'reasonable' defaults is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-summit-ops-reasonabledefaults Thanks Tom! I note that loggin

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Why people don't close bugs?

2014-08-04 Thread Tom Fifield
On 04/08/14 17:46, Dmitry Guryanov wrote: Hello! I looked through launchpad bugs and it seems there are a lot of bugs, which are fixed already, but still open, here are 3 ones: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/909096 https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1206762 https://bugs.launchpad.net/

Re: [openstack-dev] Networking Docs Swarm - Brisbane 9 August

2014-08-04 Thread Tom Fifield
How about writing up something in a bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+filebug or a mailing list post about what you'd like to see? Regards, Tom On 05/08/14 12:22, Stuart Fox wrote: Cant make it to Brisbane but this doc is so needed. Any chamce you could put round a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][Technical Committee] nova-network -> Neutron. Throwing a wrench in the Neutron gap analysis

2014-08-05 Thread Tom Fifield
On 06/08/14 03:54, Jay Pipes wrote: On 08/05/2014 03:23 PM, Collins, Sean wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 12:50:45PM EDT, Monty Taylor wrote: However, I think the cost to providing that path far outweighs the benefit in the face of other things on our plate. Perhaps those large operators that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][Technical Committee] nova-network -> Neutron. Throwing a wrench in the Neutron gap analysis

2014-08-05 Thread Tom Fifield
On 06/08/14 12:40, Jay Pipes wrote: On 08/05/2014 11:25 PM, Tom Fifield wrote: On 06/08/14 03:54, Jay Pipes wrote: On 08/05/2014 03:23 PM, Collins, Sean wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 12:50:45PM EDT, Monty Taylor wrote: However, I think the cost to providing that path far outweighs the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][Technical Committee] nova-network -> Neutron. Throwing a wrench in the Neutron gap analysis

2014-08-05 Thread Tom Fifield
On 06/08/14 13:18, Robert Collins wrote: On 6 August 2014 16:57, Tom Fifield wrote: Note, however, that nobody is suggesting not having a migration path. I'm just suggesting relaxing the requirement that the migration from nova-network to neutron be without any downtime of instances.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][Technical Committee] nova-network -> Neutron. Throwing a wrench in the Neutron gap analysis

2014-08-05 Thread Tom Fifield
On 06/08/14 13:24, Robert Collins wrote: On 6 August 2014 17:22, Tom Fifield wrote: On 06/08/14 13:18, Robert Collins wrote: On 6 August 2014 16:57, Tom Fifield wrote: Note, however, that nobody is suggesting not having a migration path. I'm just suggesting relaxing the requirement

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][Technical Committee] nova-network -> Neutron. Throwing a wrench in the Neutron gap analysis

2014-08-05 Thread Tom Fifield
On 06/08/14 13:30, Robert Collins wrote: On 6 August 2014 17:27, Tom Fifield wrote: On 06/08/14 13:24, Robert Collins wrote: What happened to your DB migrations then? :) Sorry if I misunderstood, I thought we were talking about running VM downtime here? While DB migrations are running

Re: [openstack-dev] Havana RC1 available in the Ubuntu Cloud Archive for 12.04

2013-10-11 Thread Tom Fifield
Thanks James!! On 11/10/13 23:47, James Page wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Folks I've just finishing promoting all of the Havana RC1 packages and associated dependencies to the Ubuntu Cloud Archive for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. For details of how to use the Ubuntu Cloud Ar

[openstack-dev] Doc Team meeting - in an hour

2013-10-15 Thread Tom Fifield
Hi all, The OpenStack Doc team meeting will take place in #openstack-meeting on IRC at 13:00 UTC - about an hour from now. The Agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting Please add items of interest to you and join us. Regards, Tom __

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-29 Thread Tom Fifield
On 30/10/13 07:58, Russell Bryant wrote: On 10/29/2013 04:24 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: On 10/28/2013 10:28 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: 2) Setting clearer expectations. Since we have so many blueprints for Nova, I feel it's very important to accurately set expectations for how the priority of d

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-29 Thread Tom Fifield
On 30/10/13 17:14, Russell Bryant wrote: On 10/29/2013 07:14 PM, Tom Fifield wrote: On 30/10/13 07:58, Russell Bryant wrote: On 10/29/2013 04:24 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: On 10/28/2013 10:28 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: 2) Setting clearer expectations. Since we have so many blueprints for

Re: [openstack-dev] welcoming new committers (was Re: When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?)

2013-10-31 Thread Tom Fifield
On 01/11/13 08:35, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 11:49 -0700, Stefano Maffulli wrote: Another idea that Tom suggested is to use gerrit automation to send back to first time committers something in addition to the normal 'your patch is waiting for review' message. The message coul

Re: [openstack-dev] Split of the openstack-dev list

2013-11-14 Thread Tom Fifield
On 15/11/13 02:40, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Julien Danjou > wrote: > > > Other suggestion: we could stop posting meeting reminders to -dev (I > > know, I'm guilty of it) and only post something if the meeting time > > cha

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack Programs

2013-06-26 Thread Tom Fifield
On 26/06/13 22:20, Thierry Carrez wrote: Stefano Maffulli wrote: On 06/24/2013 11:50 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: To match with the current state we would end up with: * Projects (Nova, Neutron, Swift, Glance, Keystone, Horizon, Cinder, Ceilometer, Heat) * Incubated projects (Trove, Ironic) * Prog

Re: [openstack-dev] Program Proposal: refstack

2013-07-09 Thread Tom Fifield
On 10/07/13 01:01, Monty Taylor wrote: Hey all, I'd like to propose an official program to the TC - refstack, a program for verifying interoperability between implementations via FITS testing. Official Title: OpenStack Interoperability Initial PTL: Monty Taylor Mission Statement: Develop an

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][docs] Why is the neutron security group extension disabled by default?

2013-07-13 Thread Tom Fifield
"Dear caller, your bug is important to us, and will be addressed by the first available operator. You are currently. number. two ... hundred ... and. forty. eight. in the queue." http://bit.ly/17cJejn https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1190940 ;) Regards, Tom On 14/07/13 1

Re: [openstack-dev] [Grizzly] Retrieving a flavors extra-specs in horizon

2013-08-01 Thread Tom Fifield
Can you update https://ask.openstack.org/question/3674/get-a-flavors-extra-specs-in-horizon/ too :) Regards, Tom On 02/08/13 11:50, Dale, StewartX T wrote: Switching to your mentioned function fixed my issues. Thanks! -Original Message- From: Kieran Spear [mailto:kisp...@gmail.com]

Re: [openstack-dev] MultiClusterZones

2013-08-12 Thread Tom Fifield
On 13/08/13 00:03, Wolfgang Richter wrote: What is the status of this proposal: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MultiClusterZones Has anyone worked on it? Hi Wolfgang, That one is old. I think you probably want Cells, which has been implemented and has several sites running in production.

Re: [openstack-dev] About multihost patch review

2013-08-27 Thread Tom Fifield
On 27/08/13 15:23, Maru Newby wrote: > > On Aug 26, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Yongsheng Gong wrote: > >> First 'be like nova-network' is a merit for some deployments. > > I'm afraid 'merit' is a bit vague for me. Would you please elaborate? One area of 'merit' in this area is for migration from nova-

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Documentation and patches

2013-09-01 Thread Tom Fifield
On 01/09/13 23:02, Anne Gentle wrote: On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Lorin Hochstein mailto:lo...@nimbisservices.com>> wrote: On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 08:33:40 -0500, Anne Gentle wrote: I applaud Julien's note and we're happy to work with the teams on finding where docs should

Re: [openstack-dev] [Swift] Small cluster size

2013-09-05 Thread Tom Fifield
Here's a straw-man: * 5 storage nodes * 2 proxy servers 5 storage nodes for a reasonable zone breakdown for 3 replicas; separate proxy nodes for security segregation (working to avoid unencrypted, unauthenticated rsync having any chance of leaking through the net) and network segregation (separat

[openstack-dev] User Survey Results - October 2015

2015-10-24 Thread Tom Fifield
Hi everyone, Working with the user committee, we run a survey of users every six months. We are pleased to share the results of the latest survey, conducted in September. Each survey is meant to provide a sample representation of OpenStack users and deployment profiles, with the goals to ide

[openstack-dev] OpenStack-Announce List

2015-11-19 Thread Tom Fifield
Hi all, I'd like to get your thoughts about the OpenStack-Announce list. We describe the list as: """ Subscribe to this list to receive important announcements from the OpenStack Release Team and OpenStack Security Team. This is a low-traffic, read-only list. """ Up until July 2015, it was

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][all] Move from active distrusting model to trusting model

2015-11-24 Thread Tom Fifield
On 24/11/15 19:20, Dolph Mathews wrote: Scenarios I've been personally involved with where the "distrustful" model either did help or would have helped: - Employee is reprimanded by management for not positively reviewing & approving a coworkers patch. - A team of employees is pressured to land

Re: [openstack-dev] Invitation to join Hangzhou Bug Smash

2016-06-13 Thread Tom Fifield
Hi, Are there plans to follow the OpenStack events policy this time? eg Commercial participants should have equal opportunity to sponsor and support the activity. When the number of sponsorships is limited, a best practice is to publish a sponsorship prospectus online on a date known in advan

Re: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org

2016-06-28 Thread Tom Fifield
Quick answers in-line On 29/06/16 05:44, Adam Young wrote: It seems to me that keystone Core should be able to moderate Keystone questions on the site. That means that they should be able to remove old dead ones, remove things tagged as Keystone that do not apply and so on. I would assume the

Re: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org

2016-06-30 Thread Tom Fifield
On 01/07/16 13:01, Adam Young wrote: On 06/28/2016 11:13 PM, Tom Fifield wrote: Quick answers in-line On 29/06/16 05:44, Adam Young wrote: It seems to me that keystone Core should be able to moderate Keystone questions on the site. That means that they should be able to remove old dead ones

Re: [openstack-dev] Constant attempts from Matthew Kassawara to remove Debian from the install-guide

2016-04-09 Thread Tom Fifield
On 09/04/16 14:49, Thomas Goirand wrote: I still don't have any idea what's wrong with the Debian guide. The standing issue that I recall that raises the maintenance burden is the use of debconf rather than/in addition to manual config file edits as per the other distros. I can't remember whe

Re: [openstack-dev] Summit Core Party after Austin

2016-04-22 Thread Tom Fifield
Hi all, On 22/04/16 16:40, Clint Byrum wrote: But in the mean time, maybe we can just send this message to party planners: Provide us with interesting spaces to converse and bond in, and we will be happier. Spoke with the party planners and got the inside gossip :) The good news: for the Aust

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] supporting Go

2016-05-04 Thread Tom Fifield
On 04/05/16 01:58, John Dickinson wrote: TC, In reference to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/093680.html and Thierry's reply, I'm currently drafting a TC resolution to update http://governance.openstack.org/resolutions/20150901-programming-languages.html to includ

Re: [openstack-dev] Wiki

2016-05-10 Thread Tom Fifield
On 11/05/16 02:48, Dan Smith wrote: Hmm... that's unfortunate, as we were trying to get some of our less ephemeral items out of random etherpads and into the wiki (which has the value of being google indexed). Yeah, I'm kinda surprised anyone would consider a wiki-less world. I'm definitely b

Re: [openstack-dev] Wiki

2016-05-10 Thread Tom Fifield
On 11/05/16 09:04, Dan Smith wrote: Here it is :) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Special:AncientPages Great, I see at least one I can nuke on the first page. Note that I don't seem to have delete powers on the wiki. That's surely a first step in letting people maintain the relevance of thi

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack-Announce List

2015-12-14 Thread Tom Fifield
al library (particularly oslo) release announcements don't fit Open Questions: * Where do Internal library release announcements go? [-dev or new -release list or batched inside the weekly newsletter] * Do SDK releases fit on -announce? Regards, Tom On 20/11/15 12:00, Tom Fifield wrote: Hi all,

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack-Announce List

2015-12-14 Thread Tom Fifield
On 14/12/15 19:33, Thierry Carrez wrote: Tom Fifield wrote: ... and back to this thread after a few weeks :) The conclusions I saw were: * Audience for openstack-announce should be "users/non-dev" * Service project releases announcements are good * Client library release announce

Re: [openstack-dev] [doc] DocImpact vs. reno

2016-01-08 Thread Tom Fifield
On 08/01/16 21:15, Sean Dague wrote: On 01/07/2016 06:21 PM, Lana Brindley wrote: On 7 Jan 2016, at 2:09 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 01/06/2016 09:02 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2016-01-06 07:52:48 -0500 (-0500), Sean Dague wrote: [...] I think auto openning against a project, and shuffling

Re: [openstack-dev] [doc] DocImpact vs. reno

2016-01-11 Thread Tom Fifield
On 11/01/16 20:08, Sean Dague wrote: On 01/10/2016 11:31 PM, Lana Brindley wrote: Wow. That'll make the release notes process painful this round ... o.O Hmmm. In my mind it will make it a lot easier. In the past we end up getting to the release and sit around and go "hmmm, what did we change

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack-Announce List

2016-01-13 Thread Tom Fifield
rom thingee" as Thierry suggested? Regards, Tom On 14/12/15 17:12, Tom Fifield wrote: ... and back to this thread after a few weeks :) The conclusions I saw were: * Audience for openstack-announce should be "users/non-dev" * Service project releases announcements are

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack-Announce List

2016-01-13 Thread Tom Fifield
On 14/01/16 15:22, Andreas Jaeger wrote: On 2016-01-14 08:13, Tom Fifield wrote: So, I'm prompted by another 20 oslo release emails to dredge up this thread :) There appears to be broad consensus that those shouldn't be going to the announce list ... what do we need to do to get that

Re: [openstack-dev] App Catalog IRC meeting minutes - 7/2/2015

2015-07-06 Thread Tom Fifield
On 07/07/15 04:25, Christopher Aedo wrote: > * Stale URL checker (gosha) (docaedo, 17:27:48) The docs-tools repository has a tool that does this that can probably be re-purposed. __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not fo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup

2015-08-19 Thread Tom Fifield
On 19/08/15 11:52, Edgar Magana wrote: Folks, I just want to share with you the feedback collected today during the networking session on Ops Meet-up: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-network-model Special thanks to Ryan and Doug for helping on some questions. Line 28 on https://eth

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Anyone using containers?

2015-09-02 Thread Tom Fifield
On 02/09/15 17:36, Thierry Carrez wrote: Lowery, Mathew wrote: Just curious if anyone is using containers in their deployments. If so, in what capacity? What are the advantages, gotchas, and pain points? This might trigger more responses on the openstack-operators mailing-list. +1 :) There

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