Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] TaskFlow 0.1 integration

2013-11-19 Thread Walter A. Boring IV
Awesome guys, Thanks for picking this up. I'm looking forward to the reviews :) Walt On 19.11.2013 10:38, Kekane, Abhishek wrote: Hi All, Greetings!!! Hi there! And thanks for your interest in cinder and taskflow! We are in process of implementing the TaskFlow 0.1 in Cinder for "copy v

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do we have some guidelines for mock, stub, mox when writing unit test?

2013-11-19 Thread Peter Feiner
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Chuck Short wrote: > Hi > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Peter Feiner wrote: >> >> A substantive reason for switching from mox to mock is the derelict >> state of mox releases. There hasn't been a release of mox in three >> years: the latest, mox-0.5.3, wa

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] TaskFlow 0.1 integration

2013-11-19 Thread Joshua Harlow
Sweet! Feel free to ask lots of questions and jump on both irc channels (#openstack-state-management and #openstack-cinder) if u need any help that can be better solved in real time chat. Thanks for helping getting this ball rolling :-) Sent from my really tiny device... > On Nov 19, 2013, at

Re: [openstack-dev] Search Project - summit follow up

2013-11-19 Thread Dmitri Zimin(e) | StackStorm
Thanks Jarda for the intro; Hi Stackers, The project Search is a service providing fast full-text search for resources across OpenStack services. The idea was introduced and discussed at the Summit. We confirmed the need for Search service: 1) from core Horizon team and UX 2) from integrators bu

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-19 Thread Edgar Magana
Isaku, Do you have in mind any implementation, any BP? We could actually work on this together, all plugins will get the benefits of a better implementation. Thanks, Edgar On 11/19/13 3:57 AM, "Isaku Yamahata" wrote: >On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 03:55:49PM -0500, >Robert Kukura wrote: > >> On 11

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][heat][[keystone] RFC: introducing "request identification"

2013-11-19 Thread Adam Young
On 11/19/2013 08:21 AM, Dolph Mathews wrote: Related BP: Create a unified request identifier https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/cross-service-request-id And we have discussed workplans as well, which would be data to be carried along with the request id https://blueprints.launch

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Ceilometer] get IPMI data for ceilometer

2013-11-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Lu, Lianhao wrote: > > Doug Hellmann wrote on 2013-11-19: > > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Devananda van der Veen < > devananda@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Lianhao Lu, > > > > I briefly summarized my recollection of that session in th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-security] Neutron security groups for L2 networks in Havana

2013-11-19 Thread Aaron Rosen
Hi Kanthi, The issue is that the nova-api says that by default every instance needs to be in a default security group that blocks all ingress traffic from outside and allows all ingress from instances that belong to the same security group. If an instance does not have an ip address we are unable

Re: [openstack-dev] [Swift] Metadata Search API

2013-11-19 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/19/2013 11:33 AM, Paula Ta-Shma wrote: Hi Paula, Where can we see the source code for the prototype and any API specs that you may have? Best, -jay Hi Jay, Thanks for your interest. Our prototype intercepts Swift REST requests using proxy server middleware and uses Solr as the indexi

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Core pinning

2013-11-19 Thread yunhong jiang
On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 12:52 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 02:46:06PM +0200, Tuomas Paappanen wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I would like to hear your thoughts about core pinning in Openstack. > > Currently nova(with qemu-kvm) supports usage of cpu set of PCPUs > > what can

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Chris Friesen
On 11/18/2013 06:47 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: An idea related to this, what would need to be done to make the DB have the exact state that a compute node is going through (and therefore the scheduler would not make unreliable/racey decisions, even when there are multiple schedulers). It's not like

Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin

2013-11-19 Thread Amir Sadoughi
Yes, my work has been on ML2 with neutron-openvswitch-agent. I’m interested to see what Jun Park has. I might have something ready before he is available again, but would like to collaborate regardless. Amir On Nov 19, 2013, at 3:31 AM, Kanthi P mailto:pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Caitlin Bestler
On 11/18/2013 11:35 AM, Mike Spreitzer wrote: There were some concerns expressed at the summit about scheduler scalability in Nova, and a little recollection of Boris' proposal to keep the needed state in memory. I also heard one guy say that he thinks Nova does not really need a general SQL dat

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] - Vendor specific erros

2013-11-19 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Thanks Avishay. I think the status description error was introduced with this aim. Whether vendor-specific error descriptions can make sense to a tenant, that's a good question. Personally, I feel like as a tenant that information would not be a lot useful to me, as I would not be able to do any d

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread James Bottomley
On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:28 -0800, Stuart Fox wrote: > Hey all > > Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody > give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate > service? > It sounds like it should fit within the Nova area. It is, after all, > just anoth

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-11-15 12:41:53 -0800: > Good news, everyone! I have created the missing whiteboard diagram that > we all needed at the design summit: > > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/Multi_Region_Support_for_Heat/The_Missing_Diagram > > I've documen

Re: [openstack-dev] [Swift] Metadata Search API

2013-11-19 Thread Paula Ta-Shma
> My apologies, I'm apparently coming into this quite late :) Would you > mind sharing a link to the HP proposal? I wasn't at the summit > unfortunately and am playing a bit of catch up. Hi Jay, Take a look at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MetadataSearch There are links there to the REST API p

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] How to determine patch set load for a given project

2013-11-19 Thread Ilya Shakhat
Matt, As an option you may estimate the load using Stackalytics data on number of commits - http://stackalytics.com/?release=icehouse&metric=commits&project_type=all&module=sqlalchemy-migrateNumber of commits is certainly less than number of patches, but for project sqlalchemy-migrate the multipli

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] rough draft of Heat autoscaling API

2013-11-19 Thread Christopher Armstrong
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: > On 16/11/13 11:15, Angus Salkeld wrote: > >> On 15/11/13 08:46 -0600, Christopher Armstrong wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:57 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: >>> >>> On 15/11/13 02:48, Christopher Armstrong wrote: On Thu, Nov 14,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Swift] Metadata Search API

2013-11-19 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/19/2013 01:08 PM, Paula Ta-Shma wrote: My apologies, I'm apparently coming into this quite late :) Would you mind sharing a link to the HP proposal? I wasn't at the summit unfortunately and am playing a bit of catch up. Hi Jay, Take a look at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MetadataSea

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Joshua Harlow
Personally I would prefer #3 from the below. #2 I think will still have to deal with consistency issues, just switching away from a DB doesn't make magical ponies and unicorns appear (in-fact it can potentially make the problem worse if its done incorrectly - and its pretty easy to get it wrong IMH

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread Sam Alba
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Chuck Short wrote: > Hi > > I am excited to see containers getting such traction in the openstack > project. > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: >> >> On 11/18/2013 06:30 PM, Dan Smith wrote: >> >> Not having been at the summit (maybe the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-19 Thread Joshua Harlow
If you start adding these states you might really want to consider the following work that is going on in other projects. It surely appears that everyone is starting to hit the same problem (and joining efforts would produce a more beneficial result). Relevant icehouse etherpads: - https://etherp

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-11-19 09:29:00 -0800: > On 11/18/2013 06:47 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: > > An idea related to this, what would need to be done to make the DB have > > the exact state that a compute node is going through (and therefore the > > scheduler would not make unr

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-19 Thread Joshua Harlow
And also of course, nearly forgot a similar situation/review in heat. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49440/ Except theres was/is dealing with stack locking (a heat concept). On 11/19/13 10:33 AM, "Joshua Harlow" wrote: >If you start adding these states you might really want to consider the >

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread Eric Windisch
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:02 PM, James Bottomley wrote: > On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:28 -0800, Stuart Fox wrote: >> Hey all >> >> Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody >> give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate >> service? >> It sounds like it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Joshua Harlow
Sorry that was I prefer #3 (not #2) at the end there. Keyboard failure ;) On 11/19/13 10:27 AM, "Joshua Harlow" wrote: >Personally I would prefer #3 from the below. #2 I think will still have to >deal with consistency issues, just switching away from a DB doesn't make >magical ponies and unicorn

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Ironic] [TripleO] scheduling flow with Ironic?

2013-11-19 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Alex Glikson wrote: > Thanks, I understand the Nova scheduler part. One of the gaps there is > related to the blueprint we have are working on [1]. I was wondering > regarding the role of Ironic, and the exact interaction between the user, > Nova and Ironic. > T

[openstack-dev] RFC: Potential to increase min required libvirt version to 0.9.8 ?

2013-11-19 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
Currently the Nova libvirt driver is declaring that it wants a minimum of libvirt 0.9.6. For cases where we use features newer than this, we have to do conditional logic to ensure we operate correctly on old libvirt. We don't want to keep adding conditionals forever since they complicate the code

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread James Bottomley
On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 13:46 -0500, Eric Windisch wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:02 PM, James Bottomley > wrote: > > On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:28 -0800, Stuart Fox wrote: > >> Hey all > >> > >> Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody > >> give a really short explanatio

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:02:45AM -0800, James Bottomley wrote: > On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:28 -0800, Stuart Fox wrote: > > Hey all > > > > Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody > > give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate > > service? > > It

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] rough draft of Heat autoscaling API

2013-11-19 Thread Steven Dake
On 11/17/2013 01:57 PM, Steve Baker wrote: On 11/15/2013 05:19 AM, Christopher Armstrong wrote: http://docs.heatautoscale.apiary.io/ I've thrown together a rough sketch of the proposed API for autoscaling. It's written in API-Blueprint format (which is a simple subset of Markdown) and provides

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Chris Friesen
On 11/19/2013 12:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Each scheduler process can own a different set of resources. If they each grab instance requests in a round-robin fashion, then they will fill their resources up in a relatively well balanced way until one scheduler's resources are exhausted. At that ti

[openstack-dev] [Heat] Version Negotiation Middleware Accept Header issue

2013-11-19 Thread Fuente, Pablo A
Hi, I noticed that the Accept HTTP Header checked in the Version Negotiation Middleware by Heat is the same MIME type used by Glance ("application/vnd.openstack.images-") Is this OK, or should it be something like "application/vnd.openstack.orchestration-"? If this is the ca

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Chris Friesen
On 11/19/2013 12:27 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: Personally I would prefer #3 from the below. #2 I think will still have to deal with consistency issues, just switching away from a DB doesn't make magical ponies and unicorns appear (in-fact it can potentially make the problem worse if its done incorr

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-11-19 11:37:02 -0800: > On 11/19/2013 12:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > Each scheduler process can own a different set of resources. If they > > each grab instance requests in a round-robin fashion, then they will > > fill their resources up in a rela

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread Rick Jones
On 11/19/2013 10:02 AM, James Bottomley wrote: It is possible to extend the Nova APIs to control containers more fully, but there was resistance do doing this on the grounds that it's expanding the scope of Nova, hence the new project. How well received would another CLI/API to learn be among t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Chris Friesen
On 11/19/2013 01:51 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-11-19 11:37:02 -0800: On 11/19/2013 12:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Each scheduler process can own a different set of resources. If they each grab instance requests in a round-robin fashion, then they will fi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

2013-11-19 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi Vijay, Thanks for working on this. As was discussed at the summit, immediate solution seems to be passing certificates via transient fields in Vip object, which will avoid the need for certificate management (incl. storing them). If certificate management is concerned then I agree that it needs

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread Russell Bryant
On 11/19/2013 03:08 PM, Rick Jones wrote: > On 11/19/2013 10:02 AM, James Bottomley wrote: >> It is possible to extend the Nova APIs to control containers more fully, >> but there was resistance do doing this on the grounds that it's >> expanding the scope of Nova, hence the new project. > > How w

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-19 Thread Steve Baker
On 11/19/2013 08:37 PM, Thomas Spatzier wrote: > Steve Baker wrote on 18.11.2013 21:52:04: >> From: Steve Baker >> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, >> Date: 18.11.2013 21:54 >> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration >> refined after design summit discussions >> >> On

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Ceilometer] get IPMI data for ceilometer

2013-11-19 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Ladislav Smola wrote: > Hello. I have a couple of additional questions. > > 1. What about IPMI data that we want to get by polling. E.g. temperatures, > etc. Will the Ironic be polling these kind of > data and send them directly to collector(or agent)? Not s

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-18 12:52:04 -0800: > > Regarding apply_config/remove_config, if a SoftwareApplier resource is > deleted it should trigger any remove_config and wait for the server to > acknowledge when that is complete. This allows for any > evacuation/deregistering

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-19 Thread Steve Baker
On 11/20/2013 09:50 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-18 12:52:04 -0800: >> Regarding apply_config/remove_config, if a SoftwareApplier resource is >> deleted it should trigger any remove_config and wait for the server to >> acknowledge when that is complete. Th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-19 13:06:21 -0800: > On 11/20/2013 09:50 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-18 12:52:04 -0800: > >> Regarding apply_config/remove_config, if a SoftwareApplier resource is > >> deleted it should trigger any remove_

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-19 Thread Zane Bitter
On 19/11/13 19:03, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-11-15 12:41:53 -0800: Good news, everyone! I have created the missing whiteboard diagram that we all needed at the design summit: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/Multi_Region_Support_for_Heat/The_M

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Easier way of trying TripleO

2013-11-19 Thread James Slagle
I'd like to propose an idea around a simplified and complimentary version of devtest that makes it easier for someone to get started and try TripleO. The goal being to get people using TripleO as a way to experience the deployment of OpenStack, and not necessarily a way to get an experience of a

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Icehouse roadmap status

2013-11-19 Thread Russell Bryant
Greetings, We've made a lot of progress on reviewing blueprints over the last week and have the icehouse-1 [1] list in reasonable shape. Note that icehouse-1 development must be completed two weeks from today, and that time frame includes a major holiday in the US. Please adjust plans and expect

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] PTL election

2013-11-19 Thread Thierry Carrez
Thierry Carrez wrote: > Thierry Carrez wrote: >> The two candidates who nominated themselves in time for this election are: >> >> * David Lyle >> * Matthias Runge >> >> The election will be set up tomorrow, and will stay open for voting for >> a week. The poll is now closed, and the winner is Davi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] PTL election

2013-11-19 Thread Matthias Runge
On 11/19/2013 11:02 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > The poll is now closed, and the winner is David Lyle ! > David, well done and honestly deserved! Matthias ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-19 Thread Salvatore Orlando
For what is worth we have considered this aspect from the perspective of the Neutron plugin my team maintains (NVP) during the past release cycle. The synchronous model that most plugins with a controller on the backend currently implement is simple and convenient, but has some flaws: - reliabili

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Version Negotiation Middleware Accept Header issue

2013-11-19 Thread Angus Salkeld
On 19/11/13 19:40 +, Fuente, Pablo A wrote: Hi, I noticed that the Accept HTTP Header checked in the Version Negotiation Middleware by Heat is the same MIME type used by Glance ("application/vnd.openstack.images-") Is this OK, or should it be something like "application/vnd.op

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] rough draft of Heat autoscaling API

2013-11-19 Thread Zane Bitter
On 19/11/13 19:14, Christopher Armstrong wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Zane Bitter mailto:zbit...@redhat.com>> wrote: On 16/11/13 11:15, Angus Salkeld wrote: On 15/11/13 08:46 -0600, Christopher Armstrong wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:57 AM, Zane Bitter

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-19 Thread Joshua Harlow
Can u explain a little how using celery achieves workflow reliability and avoids races (or mitigates spaghetti code)? To me celery acts as a way to distribute tasks, but does not deal with actually forming a easily understandable way of knowing that a piece of code that u design is actually goi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-19 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: > Greetings, > > We've talked a lot about requirements for new compute drivers [1]. I > think the same sort of standards shold be applied for a new third-party > API, such as the GCE API [2]. > > Before we can consider taking on a new API, it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-19 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Thanks for your reply Joshua, some more comments inline; however I think I'm probably going off topic here given the initial subject of this thread. Talking about Taskflow, and moving aside for the plugins, which have not a lot of community-wide interest, do you reckon Taskflow might be something

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 16 November 2013 08:31, Joe Gordon wrote: >> and building on unstable Nova APIs. Anything which we accept is a part >> of OpenStack should not get randomly made unusable by one contributor >> while other contributors constantly have to scramble to catch up. Either >> stuff winds up being broke

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Easier way of trying TripleO

2013-11-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 20 November 2013 10:40, James Slagle wrote: > I'd like to propose an idea around a simplified and complimentary version of > devtest that makes it easier for someone to get started and try TripleO. I think its a grand idea (in fact it's been floated many times). For a while we ran our own jenk

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-19 Thread Sean Dague
On 11/19/2013 03:46 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 16 November 2013 08:31, Joe Gordon wrote: and building on unstable Nova APIs. Anything which we accept is a part of OpenStack should not get randomly made unusable by one contributor while other contributors constantly have to scramble to catch

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-19 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 11/19/2013 03:46 PM, Robert Collins wrote: >> As long as the metadataservice doesn't move out :) - that one I think >> is pretty core and we have no native replacement [configdrive is not a >> replacement :P]. > > Slightly off tangent threa

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-11-19 12:18:16 -0800: > On 11/19/2013 01:51 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-11-19 11:37:02 -0800: > >> On 11/19/2013 12:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > >> > >>> Each scheduler process can own a different set of resou

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 20 November 2013 13:00, Sean Dague wrote: >> As long as the metadataservice doesn't move out :) - that one I think >> is pretty core and we have no native replacement [configdrive is not a >> replacement :P]. > > > Slightly off tangent thread. > > So we recently moved devstack gate to do con fi

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] Automatically post new threads from AskBot to the list

2013-11-19 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 11/19/2013 08:19 AM, Julie Pichon wrote: > I've been thinking about the AskBot UX website [0] and its lack of > visibility, particularly for new community members. Indeed, it's one of the drawbacks of splitting groups: information tends not to flow very well. > I think it would be valuable to

[openstack-dev] Introducing myself - looking for a IPv6 topology

2013-11-19 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
Hello Stackers! I'm Thiago and I'm here on dev list mostly to watch you guys... Nevertheless, I want to say that I would love to test in deep, the IPv6 support in OpenStack IceHouse. At at glance, what I'm looking for is more or less specified here, as follows: --- I have 1 native IPv6 /48 bloc

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing myself - looking for a IPv6 topology

2013-11-19 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
One more thing... I'm thinking about the "use case" for "Floating IPs" in a NAT-less IPv6 OpenStack environment. I can think in two "use cases" in a IPv6-Only Tenant Subnet: 1- the Floating IP might be used to allocate more IPv6 address for an Instance (since there is no plans for NAT66, I beli

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] A question about getting IPMI data

2013-11-19 Thread Gao, Fengqian
Re-send again because been rejected by system. Best Regards, -fengqian From: Gao, Fengqian Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:06 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Cc: 'Devananda van der Veen'; 'jbjoh...@us.ibm.com'; Lu, Lianhao; Wang, Shane Subject: [Ironic] A question about getting IPMI

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Joshua Harlow
At yahoo at least 50+ simultaneous will be the common case (maybe we are special). Think of what happens on www.yahoo.com say on the olympics, news.yahoo.com could need 50+ very very quickly (especially if say a gold medal is won by some famous person). So I wouldn't discount those being the commo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder][Glance] OSLO update

2013-11-19 Thread John Griffith
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 17:24 +, Duncan Thomas wrote: >> Random OSLO updates with no list of what changed, what got fixed etc >> are unlikely to get review attention - doing such a review is >> extremely difficult. I was -2ing them and as

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] The three API server multi-worker process patches.

2013-11-19 Thread Zhongyue Luo
Carl, Yingjun, I'm still getting the 2006 error even by configuring idle_interval to 1. I applied the patch to the RDO havana dist on centos 6.4. Are there any other options I should be considering such as min/max pool size or use_tpool? Thanks. On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 3:33 AM, Baldwin, Carl

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Tempest] Tempest API test for Neutron LBaaS

2013-11-19 Thread Sean Dague
On 11/17/2013 09:55 PM, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: Hi folks, I'm working on major change to Neutron LBaaS API, obviously it will break existing tempest API tests for LBaaS. What would be the right process to deal with this? I guess I can't just push fixed tests to tempest because they will not pass

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-19 Thread Tomoe Sugihara
Hi Edgar, We had a similar issue and worked around by something like the following (which I believe similar to what Aaron said): @@ -45,6 +45,8 @@ SNAT_RULE_PROPERTY = {OS_TENANT_ROUTER_RULE_KEY: SNAT_RULE} class MidonetResourceNotFound(q_exc.NotFound): message = _('MidoNet %(resource_type)

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-11-19 16:22:41 -0800: > On 20 November 2013 13:00, Sean Dague wrote: > >> As long as the metadataservice doesn't move out :) - that one I think > >> is pretty core and we have no native replacement [configdrive is not a > >> replacement :P]. > > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing myself - looking for a IPv6 topology

2013-11-19 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
On Nov 19, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > > One more thing... > > I'm thinking about the "use case" for "Floating IPs" in a NAT-less IPv6 > OpenStack environment. > > > I can think in two "use cases" in a IPv6-Only Tenant Subnet: > > 1- the Floating IP might be used to allocate m

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-19 Thread Steve Baker
On 11/20/2013 03:54 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-11-19 16:22:41 -0800: >> On 20 November 2013 13:00, Sean Dague wrote: As long as the metadataservice doesn't move out :) - that one I think is pretty core and we have no native replacement [config

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint: standard specification of guest CPU topology

2013-11-19 Thread Wangpan
Hi Daniel, Thanks for your help in advance. I have read your wiki page and it explains this issue very clearly. But I have a question about the 'technical design', you give us a prototype method as below: def get_guest_cpu_topology(self, inst_type, image, preferred_topology, mandatory_topology):

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack][qa][Tempest][Network] Test for external connectivity

2013-11-19 Thread Tomoe Sugihara
Hi Salvatore, et al, On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Salvatore Orlando wrote: > Hi Yair, > > I had in mind of doing something similar. I also registered a tempest > blueprint for it. > Basically I think we can assume test machines have access to the Internet, > but the devstack deployment might

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Potential to increase min required libvirt version to 0.9.8 ?

2013-11-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 20 November 2013 08:02, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > Currently the Nova libvirt driver is declaring that it wants a minimum > of libvirt 0.9.6. ... > If there are other distros I've missed which expect to support deployment > of Icehouse please add them to this list. Hopefully there won't be any

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Plugin and Driver Inclusion Requirements

2013-11-19 Thread Tomoe Sugihara
Hello Neutron team, >From the "Testing Requirements" section, Tempest is mentioned as a requirement. Does that mean all the thirdparty vendors' system should run all the tests in Tempest? It might not make perfect sense to test image API for changes in the neutron code. So can we define some subs

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Potential to increase min required libvirt version to 0.9.8 ?

2013-11-19 Thread Tom Fifield
On 20/11/13 14:33, Robert Collins wrote: On 20 November 2013 08:02, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: Currently the Nova libvirt driver is declaring that it wants a minimum of libvirt 0.9.6. ... If there are other distros I've missed which expect to support deployment of Icehouse please add them to t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Mike Wilson
I've been thinking about this use case for a DHT-like design, I think I want to do what other people have alluded to here and try and intercept problematic requests like this one in some sort of "pre sending to ring-segment" stage. In this case the "pre-stage" could decide to send this off to a sch

[openstack-dev] OFF TOPIC Re: Image without host-id

2013-11-19 Thread Tom Fifield
On 20/11/13 15:43, Santosh Kumar wrote: I am following Havana guide for creating three node set up. Everything has been installed and configured. However not able to create network for VMs , That's why when creating VM .. they come out be without host-id ( VM gets lauch ). #Nova network-creat

Re: [openstack-dev] OFF TOPIC Re: Image without host-id

2013-11-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 20 November 2013 17:55, Tom Fifield wrote: > Hi Santosh, > > Thank you for supporting OpenStack. ...://ask.openstack.org Thanks for doing this Tom. Can I suggest however, that when replying one not change the topic? In gmail (which a /huge/ proportion of folk use nowadays) that breaks the thre

[openstack-dev] Propose "project story wiki" idea

2013-11-19 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Hi stackers, Currently what I see is growing amount of interesting projects, that at least I would like to track. But reading all mailing lists, and reviewing all patches in all interesting projects to get high level understanding of what is happing in project now, is quite hard or even impossibl

Re: [openstack-dev] Propose "project story wiki" idea

2013-11-19 Thread Michael Bright
+1 On 20 November 2013 06:33, Boris Pavlovic wrote: > Hi stackers, > > > Currently what I see is growing amount of interesting projects, that at > least I would like to track. But reading all mailing lists, and reviewing > all patches in all interesting projects to get high level understanding

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-19 Thread Alex Glikson
Another possible approach could be that only part of the 50 succeeds (reported back to the user), and then a retry mechanism at a higher level would potentially approach the other partition/scheduler - similar to today's retries. Regards, Alex From: Mike Wilson To: "OpenStack Develop

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

2013-11-19 Thread Vijay Venkatachalam
Hi Eugene, The proposal is simple, create a separate resource called certificate (which will also be handled by Neutron+LBaaS plugin) rather than having them in the VIP. It will maintain the original thought of security, the certificate confidential parameters will be transient

[openstack-dev] Top Gate Bugs

2013-11-19 Thread Joe Gordon
Hi All, As many of you have noticed the gate has been in very bad shape over the past few days. Here is a list of some of the top open bugs (without pending patches, and many recent hits) that we are hitting. Gate won't be stable, and it will be hard to get your code merged, until we fix these b

Re: [openstack-dev] Propose "project story wiki" idea

2013-11-19 Thread Alex Glikson
I think the idea in general is very good (I would be a heavy consumer of such a thing myself). I am not sure how sustainable is to do it manually though, especially for larger projects. Maybe there is a reasonable way to automate this.. For example, if we could generate a 'dashboard' for each p

Re: [openstack-dev] Propose "project story wiki" idea

2013-11-19 Thread Tom Fifield
Love the idea Boris - a nice read :) Regards, Tom On 20/11/13 16:45, Michael Bright wrote: +1 On 20 November 2013 06:33, Boris Pavlovic mailto:bpavlo...@mirantis.com>> wrote: Hi stackers, Currently what I see is growing amount of interesting projects, that at least I would lik

[openstack-dev] I18n team meeting tomorrow

2013-11-19 Thread Ying Chun Guo
Hi, all There will be OpenStack I18n team meeting at UTC on Thursday (Nov 21th) in IRC channel #openstack-meeting. The time, we use Asia/America friendly time. Welcome to join the meeting. This is the first I18n meeting after Icehouse design summit. Summarize of the design summit in I18n ar

[openstack-dev] [openstack][nova][social-apects] Social aspects shouldn't impact on dev process

2013-11-19 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Hello Stackers, I faced some social problems in community. We started working on purge engine for DB (before HK summit) This is very important, because at this moment we don't have any working way to purge DB... so admins should make it by hand. And we made this BP (in october) https://bluepri

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-19 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message on 19.11.2013 21:40:54: > From: Steve Baker > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, > Date: 19.11.2013 21:43 > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration > refined after design summit discussions > > I think there needs to a CM tool specifi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

2013-11-19 Thread Andrew Hutchings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19/11/13 16:33, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Vijay Venkatachalam's message of 2013-11-19 05:48:43 > -0800: >> Hi Sam, Eugene, & Avishay, etal, >> >> Today I spent some time to create a write-up for SSL Termination >> not exactly design doc. P

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Configuration validation

2013-11-19 Thread Oleg Gelbukh
Tracy, I've created etherpad with the summary: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/w5BwMtCG6z -- Best regards, Oleg Gelbukh On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Tracy Jones wrote: > Oleg - this is great! I tried to find you on IRC to recommend we put this > on a etherpad so several of us can colla

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Subteam meeting on Thursday, 21

2013-11-19 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi folks, Let's meet on #openstack-meeting on Thrsday, 21, at 14-00 UTC We'll discuss current progress and design of some of proposed features. Thanks, Eugene. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] Layering olso.messaging usage of config

2013-11-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 18/11/13 16:46 +, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 17:37 +0100, Julien Danjou wrote: On Mon, Nov 18 2013, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > I'm struggling to care about this until I have some insight into why > it's important. And it's a bit frustrating to have to guess the > ration

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 07:10:53PM -0500, Krishna Raman wrote: > We should probably meet on IRC or conf. call and discuss the suggested > architecture, open questions and REST API. > > I have set up a doodle poll at http://doodle.com/w7y5qcdvq9i36757 to gather a > times when we can meet. > Pleas

Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin

2013-11-19 Thread Kanthi P
Hi All, Thanks for the response! Amir,Mike: Is your implementation being done according to ML2 plugin Regards, Kanthi On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Mike Wilson wrote: > Hi Kanthi, > > Just to reiterate what Kyle said, we do have an internal implementation > using flows that looks very simi

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread Thierry Carrez
Russell Bryant wrote: > My view of the outcome of the session was not "it *will* be a new > service". Instead, it was, "we *think* it should be a new service, but > let's do some more investigation to decide for sure". > > The action item from the session was to go off and come up with a > propos

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-19 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:57:51AM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Russell Bryant wrote: > > My view of the outcome of the session was not "it *will* be a new > > service". Instead, it was, "we *think* it should be a new service, but > > let's do some more investigation to decide for sure". > > >

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