Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] volume affinity filter for nova scheduler

2013-07-08 Thread Ilya Kharin
Hi all. In my opinion it is about things that can live in one form or another, because in some cases there is a need to place an instance in the same place where its block device is located or will be attached. Both solutions that let you do it, I mean filter and weigher, have a right to life. A l

[openstack-dev] sqlalchemy 0.8 and Grizzly

2013-07-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi, Since python-sqlalchemy 0.8.2 has been uploaded to Sid, Quantum is uninstallable there right now (see #715294). I am wondering: what's wrong with sqlalchemy >= 0.8, so that it is written explicitly in the requirements that we shouldn't use it? Is there a chance that having such a version of s

Re: [openstack-dev] Ceilometer XSD

2013-07-08 Thread Julien Danjou
On Sat, Jul 06 2013, Jobin Raju George wrote: > I am trying to use the meters provided by ceilometer to extract usage > values from the VM's deployed using openstack. > > However, in order to programmatically do this I need the XSD files for > ceilometer. I tried googling them, posting them on for

Re: [openstack-dev] sqlalchemy 0.8 and Grizzly

2013-07-08 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Hi Thomas, I would prefer to avoid such things at this moment. First of all we are using different wrappers around sqlalchemy in different projects. There is a lot of hacks and they could probably produce hidden bugs. Also our db code is not fully covered by tests. So I would prefer to: 1) firs

Re: [openstack-dev] sqlalchemy 0.8 and Grizzly

2013-07-08 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 07/08/2013 08:53 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Hi, > > Since python-sqlalchemy 0.8.2 has been uploaded to Sid, Quantum is > uninstallable there right now (see #715294). > > I am wondering: what's wrong with sqlalchemy >= 0.8, so that it is > written explicitly in the requirements that we shouldn

Re: [openstack-dev] Ceilometer XSD

2013-07-08 Thread Jobin Raju George
Ok, that's fine. I am currently investigating into it. Lets see if I get any clues. Thanks for you time! On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Julien Danjou wrote: > On Sat, Jul 06 2013, Jobin Raju George wrote: > > > I am trying to use the meters provided by ceilometer to extract usage > > values fr

Re: [openstack-dev] sqlalchemy 0.8 and Grizzly

2013-07-08 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 15:53 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Hi, > > Since python-sqlalchemy 0.8.2 has been uploaded to Sid, Quantum is > uninstallable there right now (see #715294). > > I am wondering: what's wrong with sqlalchemy >= 0.8, so that it is > written explicitly in the requirements that

[openstack-dev] [cinder] lost exception context

2013-07-08 Thread Edward Hope-Morley
Hi all, I just noticed the following bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1197648 which is very similar to an issue I recently looked at in Swift - https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1181146 Basically these problems are actually a result of a bug in python-eventlet < 0.13 i.e. https:/

Re: [openstack-dev] Work around DB in OpenStack (Oslo, Nova, Cinder, Glance)

2013-07-08 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 05/07/13 14:26, Boris Pavlovic wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to explain very high level steps of our work: > 1) Sync work with DB in all projects (We have what we have, let it be in > one place) > 2) Refactor work with DB in one place (not independently in all projects) > > So I underst

Re: [openstack-dev] sqlalchemy 0.8 and Grizzly

2013-07-08 Thread Sean Dague
On 07/08/2013 04:50 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 15:53 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hi, Since python-sqlalchemy 0.8.2 has been uploaded to Sid, Quantum is uninstallable there right now (see #715294). I am wondering: what's wrong with sqlalchemy >= 0.8, so that it is written

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] moving sphinx theme for development docs to a library

2013-07-08 Thread Sean Dague
On 07/01/2013 11:21 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Monday, July 1, 2013, Anne Gentle wrote: On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Doug Hellmann > wrote: As part of the oslo.sphinx blueprint, I am working on moving the theme we use for the development docs out of all of the v

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-dev] [Neutron] Shared network improvement (RFC)

2013-07-08 Thread Zang MingJie
I have created a blueprint here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/zone-based-router I'll complete the full specification soon On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Salvatore Orlando wrote: > Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the mailing list. > I will read them carefully and prov

Re: [openstack-dev] Adding a clean shutdown for stop/delete breaks Jenkins

2013-07-08 Thread Sean Dague
On 07/03/2013 01:08 PM, David Kranz wrote: On 07/03/2013 12:30 PM, Day, Phil wrote: Hi Folks, I have a change submitted which adds the same clean shutdown logic to stop and delete that exists for soft reboot – the rational being that its always better to give a VM a chance to shutdown cleanly

Re: [openstack-dev] Combination of ComputeCapabilitiesFilter and AggregateInstanceExtraSpecsFilter

2013-07-08 Thread Russell Bryant
On 07/05/2013 08:14 PM, Qiu Yu wrote: > Russell, > > Should ComputeCapabilitiesFilter also be restricted to use scoped > format only? Currently it recognize and compare BOTH scoped and > non-scoped key, which is causing the conflict. > > I've already submitted a bug and patch review before. > >

Re: [openstack-dev] Work around DB in OpenStack (Oslo, Nova, Cinder, Glance)

2013-07-08 Thread David Ripton
On 07/08/2013 08:15 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: This is only true if you have one table with no relations that need to be considered. Here is an example of when it gets tricky - Say you have a table T1 and a migration that adds a column c1 that relies on some data from table T2 and T1 has a FK th

Re: [openstack-dev] sqlalchemy 0.8 and Grizzly

2013-07-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/08/2013 04:11 PM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > I would prefer to avoid such things at this moment. > > First of all we are using different wrappers around sqlalchemy in > different projects. > There is a lot of hacks and they could probably produce hidden bugs. > > Also our db c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] too many tokens

2013-07-08 Thread Joe Gordon
On Jul 3, 2013 5:22 PM, "Ala Rezmerita" wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I have a question regarding too many token generation in nova when using quantumclient (also related to bug reports https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1192383 + https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova-project/+bug/1191159) > > For insta

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova]Discussion of the inconsistency between api and backend compute driver limitations.

2013-07-08 Thread Joe Gordon
On Jul 3, 2013 12:44 PM, "guohliu" wrote: > > Hello, > > As we know, nova have different compute drivers with different limitations, you can see in this link, > > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix > > but the api doesn't reflect that, which means when the user performs some o

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Proposal to add Christopher Yeoh to nova-core

2013-07-08 Thread Russell Bryant
On 07/02/2013 06:40 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > Greetings, > > I would like to propose Christopher Yoeh to be added to the nova-core team. Welcome to the team! -- Russell Bryant ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list [email protected] http://

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova]Discussion of the inconsistency between api and backend compute driver limitations.

2013-07-08 Thread Russell Bryant
On 07/08/2013 09:56 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > On Jul 3, 2013 12:44 PM, "guohliu" > wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> As we know, nova have different compute drivers with different > limitations, you can see in this link, >> >> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorS

Re: [openstack-dev] AMQP Version upgrade plans?

2013-07-08 Thread Ted Ross
On 06/24/2013, Russell Bryant wrote: On 06/24/2013 02:01 PM, Sunjeet Singh wrote: >/ /> >/ OpenStack currently uses AMQP 0.8. Are there any plans to upgrade? /> OpenStack is not specifically tied to an AMQP version. It's more about what clients we have support for, what versions they speak

Re: [openstack-dev] AMQP Version upgrade plans?

2013-07-08 Thread Mac Innes, Kiall
If you have a recent version of kombu, and amqp[1] rather than amqplib installed, things will just start using AMQP 0.9.1. Ubuntu doesn't package a new enough Kombu, and they don't package "amqp" at all.. Not sure about other distro's. Thanks, Kiall [1]: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/amqp On

Re: [openstack-dev] AMQP Version upgrade plans?

2013-07-08 Thread Chuck Short
Hi On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 03:11:02PM +, Mac Innes, Kiall wrote: > If you have a recent version of kombu, and amqp[1] rather than amqplib > installed, things will just start using AMQP 0.9.1. > > Ubuntu doesn't package a new enough Kombu, and they don't package "amqp" > at all.. Not sure ab

Re: [openstack-dev] AMQP Version upgrade plans?

2013-07-08 Thread Russell Bryant
On 07/08/2013 10:51 AM, Ted Ross wrote: > If someone from the Qpid community were to work on integrating the new > AMQP 1.0 technology into OpenStack, where would be the right place to > start? Would it be to add a new transport to oslo.messaging? I think so, yes. oslo.messaging is new, but it w

[openstack-dev] [Infra] Meeting Tuesday July 9th at 19:00 UTC

2013-07-08 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
The OpenStack Infrastructure (Infra) team is hosting our weekly meeting tomorrow, Tuesday July 9th, at 19:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting Meeting agenda available here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting (anyone is welcome to to add agenda items) Everyone interested in infrast

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Changing pollster/pipeline parameters

2013-07-08 Thread Neal, Phil
> -Original Message- > From: Eoghan Glynn [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 3:36 AM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List; Neal, Phil > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Changing pollster/pipeline > parameters > > > Hi Phil, > > Some more thoughts inli

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Nova] Why migrate_version not InnoDB?

2013-07-08 Thread Adam Young
On 07/05/2013 10:57 AM, Dolph Mathews wrote: On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:24 PM, David Ripton > wrote: On 07/01/2013 12:49 PM, Brant Knudson wrote: 'Stackers - I've got a review up in Keystone that converts tables from MyISAM to Inno

[openstack-dev] Quantum -> neutron renaming and IRC?

2013-07-08 Thread Paul Michali
Does anyone know if the IRC channels have been renamed or will be renamed? PCM (Paul Michali) MAIL [email protected] IRC pcm_ (irc.freenode.net) TW @pmichali ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] AMQP Version upgrade plans?

2013-07-08 Thread Eric Windisch
> > I actually have a big interest in adding support for AMQP 1.0. One of > > the *really* interesting things with AMQP 1.0 that is relevant for > > OpenStack is that it is not tied to using a message broker. You can use > > it in both a peer-to-peer and a brokered way. This is interesting, > >

Re: [openstack-dev] Ceilometer XSD

2013-07-08 Thread Jobin Raju George
Hey, all! I have prepared the XSD for ceilometer and would like to contribute it to the repositories on github. Can somebody help me out with the process to do this? On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Jobin Raju George wrote: > Ok, that's fine. I am currently investigating into it. Lets see if I g

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Proposal to add Christopher Yeoh to nova-core

2013-07-08 Thread Devananda van der Veen
Late to the party, but adding my +1 anyway :) -- Sent from my Google Nexus On Jul 2, 2013 6:44 PM, "Russell Bryant" wrote: > Greetings, > > I would like to propose Christopher Yoeh to be added to the nova-core team. > > Christopher has been prolific in his contributions to nova lately, both > in

Re: [openstack-dev] Quantum -> neutron renaming and IRC?

2013-07-08 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2013-07-08 12:53:10 -0400 (-0400), Paul Michali wrote: > Does anyone know if the IRC channels have been renamed or will be > renamed? The infrastructure team registered #openstack-neutron on Freenode and configured the openstackgerrit bot to report in there similarly to #openstack-quantum. Look

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Service Type Framework implementation

2013-07-08 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi neutron folks, There has been a discussion around this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29750/ that introduces configuration options and db table for storing service providers. The discussion is about whether we should store configuration in the db or not. The brief of discussion has bee

[openstack-dev] [neutron] Renaming and code reviews...

2013-07-08 Thread Paul Michali
Many people are converting their code, which is out for review, to neutron. One thing I'm seeing is the files which have been moved and renamed, are showing up as new files (not to pick on it, but as an example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33297/10/neutron/tests/unit/ml2/test_type_gre.py)

Re: [openstack-dev] Quantum -> neutron renaming and IRC?

2013-07-08 Thread Paul Michali
Cool! Thanks! I'm preparing to setup IRC on another computer and adding my channels and was wondering about that. PCM (Paul Michali) MAIL [email protected] IRC pcm_ (irc.freenode.net) TW @pmichali On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2013-07-08 12:53:10 -0400 (-0400), Pa

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Renaming and code reviews...

2013-07-08 Thread Mark McClain
The core team took care of renaming the files over the weekend, so that reviews going forward should behave as normal. (i.e. Adds are truly additions and modifications are mods). I looked at the review you referenced and that was file was a proposed addition before the name change. Git/Gerrit

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Best way to do something MySQL-specific?

2013-07-08 Thread Adam Young
On 07/01/2013 01:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: The way the new keystone-manage command "token_flush" works right now is quite broken by MySQL and InnoDB's gap locking behavior: https://bugs.launchpad.net/1188378 Presumably other SQL databases like PostgreSQL will have similar problems with doing ma

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Best way to do something MySQL-specific?

2013-07-08 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2013-07-08 13:18:55 -0700: > On 07/01/2013 01:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > The way the new keystone-manage command "token_flush" works right now > > is quite broken by MySQL and InnoDB's gap locking behavior: > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/1188378 > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Best way to do something MySQL-specific?

2013-07-08 Thread Sean Dague
On 07/01/2013 01:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: The way the new keystone-manage command "token_flush" works right now is quite broken by MySQL and InnoDB's gap locking behavior: https://bugs.launchpad.net/1188378 Presumably other SQL databases like PostgreSQL will have similar problems with doing ma

[openstack-dev] Program Description for OpenStack Infrastructure

2013-07-08 Thread Monty Taylor
As per the recent TC decision around programs, the existing programs need to provide a name, acting PTL and Mission Statement. Enjoy: Official Title: OpenStack Infrastructure PTL: Monty Taylor Mission Statement: Develop and maintain the tooling and infrastructure needed to support the develop

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] Bringing audit standards to Openstack

2013-07-08 Thread Gordon Chung
thanks for the feedback folks! you brought up good use case questions and some gaps in our bp explanation. i guess the main goal here was to highlight a standard that could possibly help with how we deal with notifications currently -- possibly standardizing it a bit more rather than a grab bag

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Service Type Framework implementation

2013-07-08 Thread Nachi Ueno
Hi Eugene It still not make sense for me to store static configuration on the DB just for easy implementation. However if the service type will support creation and deletion REST api in future, I would like to approve this patch as a first step of it. You answered "I think it's doable but I'd stil

[openstack-dev] [openstack-community] [User-committee] [OpenStack Marketing] openstack only deployment

2013-07-08 Thread Qing He
Hi All, I'm wondering if anyone has deployed openstack without any proprietary software/component? Thanks, Qing ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] Draft Mission statement for tripleo

2013-07-08 Thread Robert Collins
I thought I would get some input on a draft statement before submitting one for the TC to vote on. We're very focused on using OpenStack components in the delivery as much as possible - growing the capabilities of OpenStack rather than working around things; so I've captured that in the mission st

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Best way to do something MySQL-specific?

2013-07-08 Thread Adam Young
On 07/08/2013 04:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2013-07-08 13:18:55 -0700: On 07/01/2013 01:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: The way the new keystone-manage command "token_flush" works right now is quite broken by MySQL and InnoDB's gap locking behavior: https://bugs.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Best way to do something MySQL-specific?

2013-07-08 Thread Robert Collins
On 9 July 2013 12:32, Adam Young wrote: > * I am asking about MySQL.. presumably a "real" database. >> > I have to admit I am a bit of a Postgresql Bigot. I don't really consider > MySQL a real database, althought it has improved a lot over the years. I > am not up to speed on"InnoDB's gap loc

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Best way to do something MySQL-specific?

2013-07-08 Thread Adam Young
Tokens are, for the most part, immutable. Once they are written, they don't change except if they get revoked. This is a fairly rare occurance, but it does happen. Deleting tokens based on age should be fairly straight forward, and locks should not need to be held for a significant amount

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Best way to do something MySQL-specific?

2013-07-08 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2013-07-08 17:32:30 -0700: > On 07/08/2013 04:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2013-07-08 13:18:55 -0700: > >> On 07/01/2013 01:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > >>> The way the new keystone-manage command "token_flush" works right

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Best way to do something MySQL-specific?

2013-07-08 Thread Jamie Lennox
On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 21:55 -0400, Adam Young wrote: > > Tokens are, for the most part, immutable. Once they are written, they > don't change except if they get revoked. This is a fairly rare > occurance, but it does happen. > > Deleting tokens based on age should be fairly straight forward, an

[openstack-dev] Nova scheduler sub-group meeting agenda 7/9

2013-07-08 Thread Dugger, Donald D
(Sorry, I've been away and didn't get this out sooner). A couple of issues have come up on the mailing list that would be good to go over if the critical people can be at the meeting tomorrow: 1) Scheduler code re-factoring 2) Volume affinity filter 3) Follow ups on the scheduler BPs 4) Open

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Best way to do something MySQL-specific?

2013-07-08 Thread Clint Byrum
On Jul 8, 2013, at 20:34, Jamie Lennox wrote: > On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 21:55 -0400, Adam Young wrote: >> >> Tokens are, for the most part, immutable. Once they are written, they >> don't change except if they get revoked. This is a fairly rare >> occurance, but it does happen. >> >> Deleting

[openstack-dev] Update on monitoring vs instrumentation?

2013-07-08 Thread John Wood
Hello folks, I've found this page to be informative in trying to understanding monitoring vs instrumentation within OpenStack: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/UnifiedInstrumentationMetering It is a bit dated though (from October last year I believe). I was curious if it still reflects current

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-community] [User-committee] [OpenStack Marketing] difference between Nebula Cosmos software and OpenStack

2013-07-08 Thread Qing He
I'm wondering what is lacking in OpenStack so that people would still need Nebula Cosmos software to build their private cloud? ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/open