Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-03-03 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-02-21 14:40:07 + (+), Daniel P. Berrange wrote: [...] > If I was to prioritize things given limited resources, I'd suggest that > we should be validating that OpenStack has not broken its own code as the > top priority. So testing lowest version would rank above testing highest > ve

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-26 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 02/21/2014 11:02 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:46:22AM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: >>> On 02/21/2014 09:45 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 02:45:03PM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: > >

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-21 Thread Dean Troyer
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Mike Spreitzer wrote: > Ah, so the only distro regularly tested is Ubuntu 12.04? Within the OpenStack Infrastructure Team -managed environment, generally yes (with the addition of CentOS 6 for Py26 as noted in your quote below). However, that is not the only pl

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-21 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Sean Dague wrote on 02/20/2014 02:45:03 PM: > ... > That being said, we also need to be a little bit careful about taking > such a hard line about "supported vs. not" based on only what's in the > gate. Because if we did the following things would be listed as > unsupported (in increasing level of

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-21 Thread Sean Dague
On 02/21/2014 11:02 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:46:22AM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: >> On 02/21/2014 09:45 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 02:45:03PM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: So I'm one of the first people to utter "if it isn't tested,

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-21 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:31:06AM -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: > Hi All, > > I discussion recently came up inside of nova about what it means > supported version for a dependency means. in libvirt we gate on the > minimal version that we support but for all python dependencies we > gate on the highe

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-21 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:46:22AM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: > On 02/21/2014 09:45 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 02:45:03PM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: > >> > >> So I'm one of the first people to utter "if it isn't tested, it's > >> probably broken", however I also think we

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-21 Thread Sean Dague
On 02/21/2014 09:45 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 02:45:03PM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: >> >> So I'm one of the first people to utter "if it isn't tested, it's >> probably broken", however I also think we need to be realistic about the >> fact that if you did out the permuta

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-21 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:31:06AM -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: > Hi All, > > I discussion recently came up inside of nova about what it means > supported version for a dependency means. in libvirt we gate on the > minimal version that we support but for all python dependencies we > gate on the highe

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-21 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 02:45:03PM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: > > So I'm one of the first people to utter "if it isn't tested, it's > probably broken", however I also think we need to be realistic about the > fact that if you did out the permutations of dependencies and config > options, we'd have a

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-21 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 10:31 -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: > Hi All, > > I discussion recently came up inside of nova about what it means > supported version for a dependency means. in libvirt we gate on the > minimal version that we support but for all python dependencies we > gate on the highest vers

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 02/20/2014 06:30 PM, Sabari Murugesan wrote: > But I do think running a job with lowest version may still help a > developer realize that a feature in the latest library is not available > in an older supported version. The person can then bump up the library's > min version in the requirements.

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-20 Thread Sabari Murugesan
But I do think running a job with lowest version may still help a developer realize that a feature in the latest library is not available in an older supported version. The person can then bump up the library's min version in the requirements. Today, it;s not possible to find this out until some

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-20 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:06:25 -0500 Sean Dague wrote: > > Honestly, I think our experience in even doing a homogenous gate > means I think we should let the distros come in with 3rd party > testing on those results. Because we don't really have the bw, in > either people or machines, to explode th

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 02/20/2014 05:50 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:45:03 -0500 > Sean Dague wrote: >> >> So I'm one of the first people to utter "if it isn't tested, it's >> probably broken", however I also think we need to be realistic about >> the fact that if you did out the permutations

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-20 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:45:03 -0500 Sean Dague wrote: > > So I'm one of the first people to utter "if it isn't tested, it's > probably broken", however I also think we need to be realistic about > the fact that if you did out the permutations of dependencies and > config options, we'd have as many

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 02/20/2014 01:31 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > Hi All, > > I discussion recently came up inside of nova about what it means > supported version for a dependency means. in libvirt we gate on the > minimal version that we support but for all python dependencies we > gate on the highest version that pa