Re: [openstack-dev] The Nova API in Kilo and Beyond

2015-06-09 Thread Neil Jerram
On 08/06/15 18:22, Jay Pipes wrote: On 06/05/2015 10:56 AM, Neil Jerram wrote: I guess that's why the GNU autoconf/configure system has always advised testing for particular wanted features, instead of looking at versions and then relying on carnal knowledge to know what those versions imply.

Re: [openstack-dev] The Nova API in Kilo and Beyond

2015-06-08 Thread Adam Young
On 06/08/2015 01:22 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 06/05/2015 10:56 AM, Neil Jerram wrote: I guess that's why the GNU autoconf/configure system has always advised testing for particular wanted features, instead of looking at versions and then relying on carnal knowledge to know what those versions impl

Re: [openstack-dev] The Nova API in Kilo and Beyond

2015-06-08 Thread Jay Pipes
On 06/05/2015 10:56 AM, Neil Jerram wrote: I guess that's why the GNU autoconf/configure system has always advised testing for particular wanted features, instead of looking at versions and then relying on carnal knowledge to know what those versions imply. I'm pretty sure you meant "tribal kno

Re: [openstack-dev] The Nova API in Kilo and Beyond

2015-06-08 Thread Sean Dague
On 06/05/2015 11:03 AM, David Kranz wrote: > On 06/05/2015 07:32 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> One of the things we realized at the summit was that we'd been working >> through a better future for the Nova API for the past 5 cycles, gotten >> somewhere quite useful, but had really done a poor job on com

Re: [openstack-dev] The Nova API in Kilo and Beyond

2015-06-08 Thread Sean Dague
On 06/05/2015 10:56 AM, Neil Jerram wrote: > On 05/06/15 12:32, Sean Dague wrote: >> https://dague.net/2015/06/05/the-nova-api-in-kilo-and-beyond-2/ > > This is really informative and useful, thanks. > > A few comments / questions, with bits of your text in quotes: > > "Even figuring out what a

Re: [openstack-dev] The Nova API in Kilo and Beyond

2015-06-08 Thread Sean Dague
On 06/05/2015 10:34 AM, Chris Dent wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jun 2015, Sean Dague wrote: > >> Thanks for your time, > > Thanks for writing that up. > > I recognize that microversions exist and are as they are so I don't > want to derail, but my curiosity was piqued: > > Riddle me this: If Microversion

Re: [openstack-dev] The Nova API in Kilo and Beyond

2015-06-05 Thread David Kranz
On 06/05/2015 07:32 AM, Sean Dague wrote: One of the things we realized at the summit was that we'd been working through a better future for the Nova API for the past 5 cycles, gotten somewhere quite useful, but had really done a poor job on communicating what was going on and why, and where thin

Re: [openstack-dev] The Nova API in Kilo and Beyond

2015-06-05 Thread Neil Jerram
On 05/06/15 12:32, Sean Dague wrote: https://dague.net/2015/06/05/the-nova-api-in-kilo-and-beyond-2/ This is really informative and useful, thanks. A few comments / questions, with bits of your text in quotes: "Even figuring out what a cloud could do was pretty terrible. You could approximat

Re: [openstack-dev] The Nova API in Kilo and Beyond

2015-06-05 Thread Chris Dent
On Fri, 5 Jun 2015, Sean Dague wrote: Thanks for your time, Thanks for writing that up. I recognize that microversions exist and are as they are so I don't want to derail, but my curiosity was piqued: Riddle me this: If Microversions are kind of like content-negotiation (and we love content-