Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-09 Thread Petr Blaho
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 02:31:34PM +0200, Jaromir Coufal wrote: > Hi Chris, > > On 2013/08/10 13:13, Chris Jones wrote: > > Hi > > On 8 October 2013 11:59, Jaromir Coufal wrote: > >     * Example: It doesn't make sense, that someone who is > core-reviewer > based on im

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-09 Thread Jaromir Coufal
On 2013/08/10 23:53, Robert Collins wrote: On 9 October 2013 07:24, Jiří Stránský wrote: Clint and Monty, thank you for such good responses. I am new in TripleO team indeed and I was mostly concerned by the "line in the sand". Your responses shed some more light on the issue for me and i hope

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Robert Collins
On 9 October 2013 07:24, Jiří Stránský wrote: > Clint and Monty, > > thank you for such good responses. I am new in TripleO team indeed and I was > mostly concerned by the "line in the sand". Your responses shed some more > light on the issue for me and i hope we'll be heading the right way :) So

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Jiří Stránský
Clint and Monty, thank you for such good responses. I am new in TripleO team indeed and I was mostly concerned by the "line in the sand". Your responses shed some more light on the issue for me and i hope we'll be heading the right way :) Thanks Jiri

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Martyn Taylor
On 08/10/13 16:22, Clint Byrum wrote: I don't meant to pick on you personally Jiří, but I have singled this message out because I feel you have captured the objections to Robert's initial email well. Excerpts from Jiří Stránský's message of 2013-10-08 04:30:29 -0700: On 8.10.2013 11:44, Martyn

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/08/2013 11:22 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > I don't meant to pick on you personally Jiří, but I have singled this > message out because I feel you have captured the objections to Robert's > initial email well. Darn. My pop-up window showed "I don't meant to pick on you personally" so I rushed t

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Clint Byrum
I don't meant to pick on you personally Jiří, but I have singled this message out because I feel you have captured the objections to Robert's initial email well. Excerpts from Jiří Stránský's message of 2013-10-08 04:30:29 -0700: > On 8.10.2013 11:44, Martyn Taylor wrote: > > Whilst I can see that

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Ben Nemec
On 2013-10-08 05:03, Robert Collins wrote: On 8 October 2013 22:44, Martyn Taylor wrote: On 07/10/13 20:03, Robert Collins wrote: Whilst I can see that deciding on who is Core is a difficult task, I do feel that creating a competitive environment based on no. reviews will be detrimental to

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Hi Chris, On 2013/08/10 13:13, Chris Jones wrote: Hi On 8 October 2013 11:59, Jaromir Coufal > wrote: * Example: It doesn't make sense, that someone who is core-reviewer based on image-builder is able to give +2 on UI or CLI code and vice-versa. I'

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Jiří Stránský
On 8.10.2013 11:44, Martyn Taylor wrote: Whilst I can see that deciding on who is Core is a difficult task, I do feel that creating a competitive environment based on no. reviews will be detrimental to the project. I do feel this is going to result in quantity over quality. Personally, I'd like

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Chris Jones
Hi On 8 October 2013 11:59, Jaromir Coufal wrote: > * Example: It doesn't make sense, that someone who is core-reviewer > based on image-builder is able to give +2 on UI or CLI code and vice-versa. > I'm not sure this is a technical problem as much as a social problem - if someone isn't abl

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Hi Robert, I have few concerns regarding metrics and core-team. To sum up, I think that there needs to be more metrics and core-reviewers for particular project (not one group). More details follow: Measures: * Only number of reviews shouldn't be the only indicator - you can get int

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Ladislav Smola
Hi, seems like not all people agrees on what should be the 'metric' of a core reviewer. Also what justify us to give +1 or +2. Could it be a topic on today's meeting? Ladislav On 10/07/2013 09:03 PM, Robert Collins wrote: Hi, like most OpenStack projects we need to keep the core team up to

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Ladislav Smola
On 10/08/2013 10:27 AM, Robert Collins wrote: Perhaps the best thing to do here is to get tuskar-ui to be part of the horizon program, and utilise it's review team? This is planned. But it wont happen soon. On 8 October 2013 19:31, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: Hi, like most OpenStack projects we

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Robert Collins
On 8 October 2013 22:44, Martyn Taylor wrote: > On 07/10/13 20:03, Robert Collins wrote: > Whilst I can see that deciding on who is Core is a difficult task, I do feel > that creating a competitive environment based on no. reviews will be > detrimental to the project. I'm not sure how it's comp

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Martyn Taylor
On 07/10/13 20:03, Robert Collins wrote: Hi, like most OpenStack projects we need to keep the core team up to date: folk who are not regularly reviewing will lose context over time, and new folk who have been reviewing regularly should be trusted with -core responsibilities. Please see Russell's

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Robert Collins
Thanks, will submit a patch to reviewerstats updating it for you. -Rob On 8 October 2013 21:14, Tomas Sedovic wrote: > Just an fyi, "tomas-8c8" on the reviewers list is yours truly. That's the > name I got assigned when I registered to Gerrit and apparently, it can't be > changed. > > Thanks for

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Robert Collins
Perhaps the best thing to do here is to get tuskar-ui to be part of the horizon program, and utilise it's review team? On 8 October 2013 19:31, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: >> Hi, like most OpenStack projects we need to keep the core team up to >> date: folk who are not regularly reviewing will lose con

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-08 Thread Tomas Sedovic
Just an fyi, "tomas-8c8" on the reviewers list is yours truly. That's the name I got assigned when I registered to Gerrit and apparently, it can't be changed. Thanks for the heads-up, will be doing more reviews. T. On 07/10/13 21:03, Robert Collins wrote: Hi, like most OpenStack projects we

Re: [openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] tripleo-core update october

2013-10-07 Thread Tzu-Mainn Chen
> Hi, like most OpenStack projects we need to keep the core team up to > date: folk who are not regularly reviewing will lose context over > time, and new folk who have been reviewing regularly should be trusted > with -core responsibilities. > > Please see Russell's excellent stats: > http://russ