Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-27 Thread Robert Collins
On 16 July 2014 03:45, Debojyoti Dutta wrote: > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SchedulerUseCases > > [08:43:35] #action all update the use case etherpad > athttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SchedulerUseCases > > Please update your use cases here .. Added. -Rob -- Robert Collins Disting

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-17 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 17/07/2014 01:24, Robert Collins a écrit : > On 15 July 2014 06:10, Jay Pipes wrote: > >> Frankly, I don't think a lot of the NFV use cases are well-defined. >> >> Even more frankly, I don't see any benefit to a split-out scheduler to a >> single NFV use case. >> >> >>> Don't you see each Summi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-16 Thread Robert Collins
On 15 July 2014 06:10, Jay Pipes wrote: > Frankly, I don't think a lot of the NFV use cases are well-defined. > > Even more frankly, I don't see any benefit to a split-out scheduler to a > single NFV use case. > > >> Don't you see each Summit the lots of talks (and people attending >> them) talki

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-15 Thread Chris Friesen
On 07/14/2014 12:10 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 07/14/2014 10:16 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: From an operator perspective, people waited so long for having a scheduler doing "scheduling" and not only "resource placement". Could you elaborate a bit here? What operators are begging for the scheduler

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-15 Thread Dugger, Donald D
ferring to. -- Don Dugger "Censeo Toto nos in Kansa esse decisse." - D. Gale Ph: 303/443-3786 -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:05 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Sc

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-15 Thread Debojyoti Dutta
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SchedulerUseCases [08:43:35] #action all update the use case etherpad athttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SchedulerUseCases Please update your use cases here .. thx debo On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > Le 14/07/2014 20:10, Jay Pipes

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-15 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi Paul, thanks for your reply. Comments inline. BTW, is there any way to reply inline instead of top-posting? On these longer emails, it gets hard sometimes to follow your reply to specific things I mentioned (vs. what John G mentioned). Death to MS Outlook. On 07/14/2014 04:40 PM, Murray, Pau

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-15 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 14/07/2014 20:10, Jay Pipes a écrit : > On 07/14/2014 10:16 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: >> Le 12/07/2014 06:07, Jay Pipes a écrit : >>> On 07/11/2014 07:14 AM, John Garbutt wrote: On 10 July 2014 16:59, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > Le 10/07/2014 15:47, Russell Bryant a écrit : >> On 07/10/2

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On 07/14/2014 10:16 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 12/07/2014 06:07, Jay Pipes a écrit : On 07/11/2014 07:14 AM, John Garbutt wrote: On 10 July 2014 16:59, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 10/07/2014 15:47, Russell Bryant a écrit : On 07/10/2014 05:06 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Hi all, === tl;dr: Now th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-14 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 12/07/2014 06:07, Jay Pipes a écrit : > On 07/11/2014 07:14 AM, John Garbutt wrote: >> On 10 July 2014 16:59, Sylvain Bauza wrote: >>> Le 10/07/2014 15:47, Russell Bryant a écrit : On 07/10/2014 05:06 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > Hi all, > > === tl;dr: Now that we agree on waitin

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-14 Thread John Garbutt
On 12 July 2014 05:07, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 07/11/2014 07:14 AM, John Garbutt wrote: >> While I am not against moving the resource tracker, I feel we could >> move this to Gantt after the core scheduling has been moved. > > Big -1 from me on this, John. > > Frankly, I see no urgency whatsoever --

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-14 Thread Jay Pipes
t (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated) Le 11/07/2014 13:14, John Garbutt a écrit : On 10 July 2014 16:59, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 10/07/2014 15:47, Russell Bryant a écrit : On 07/10/2014 05:06 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Hi all, ===

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-13 Thread Dugger, Donald D
2014 8:38 AM To: John Garbutt Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated) Le 11/07/2014 13:14, John Garbutt a écrit : > On 10 July 2014 16:59, Sylvain Bauza wrote: >> Le 10/07/2014 15:47, Rus

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-11 Thread Jay Pipes
On 07/11/2014 07:14 AM, John Garbutt wrote: On 10 July 2014 16:59, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 10/07/2014 15:47, Russell Bryant a écrit : On 07/10/2014 05:06 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Hi all, === tl;dr: Now that we agree on waiting for the split prereqs to be done, we debate on if ResourceTracker

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-11 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 11/07/2014 13:14, John Garbutt a écrit : > On 10 July 2014 16:59, Sylvain Bauza wrote: >> Le 10/07/2014 15:47, Russell Bryant a écrit : >>> On 07/10/2014 05:06 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Hi all, === tl;dr: Now that we agree on waiting for the split prereqs to be done, we

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-11 Thread John Garbutt
On 10 July 2014 16:59, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > Le 10/07/2014 15:47, Russell Bryant a écrit : >> On 07/10/2014 05:06 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> === >>> tl;dr: Now that we agree on waiting for the split prereqs to be done, we >>> debate on if ResourceTracker should be part of the sc

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-10 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 10/07/2014 15:47, Russell Bryant a écrit : > On 07/10/2014 05:06 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> === >> tl;dr: Now that we agree on waiting for the split prereqs to be done, we >> debate on if ResourceTracker should be part of the scheduler code and >> consequently Scheduler should exp

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-10 Thread Dugger, Donald D
M To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated) Le 10/07/2014 16:32, Dugger, Donald D a écrit : > Active discussion at the gantt meeting this week, check out the log: > > > http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetin

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-10 Thread Sylvain Bauza
t: Thursday, July 10, 2014 7:48 AM > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated) > > On 07/10/2014 05:06 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> === >> tl;dr: Now that we agree on waiting for the spl

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-10 Thread Dugger, Donald D
ell Bryant [mailto:rbry...@redhat.com] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 7:48 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated) On 07/10/2014 05:06 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > Hi all, > > === > tl;dr: Now that we agree on

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-10 Thread Russell Bryant
On 07/10/2014 05:06 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > Hi all, > > === > tl;dr: Now that we agree on waiting for the split prereqs to be done, we > debate on if ResourceTracker should be part of the scheduler code and > consequently Scheduler should expose ResourceTracker APIs so that Nova > wouldn't own

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status (updated)

2014-07-10 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Hi all, === tl;dr: Now that we agree on waiting for the split prereqs to be done, we debate on if ResourceTracker should be part of the scheduler code and consequently Scheduler should expose ResourceTracker APIs so that Nova wouldn't own compute nodes resources. I'm proposing to first come with R

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status

2014-07-07 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 02:38:57PM +, Dugger, Donald D wrote: > > Well, my main thought is that I would prefer to see the gantt split > > done sooner rather than later. The reality is that we've been trying > > to split out the sche

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status

2014-07-07 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > Le 07/07/2014 12:00, Michael Still a écrit : > > I think you'd be better of requesting an exception for your spec than > > splitting the scheduler immediately. These refactorings need to happen > > anyways, and if your scheduler work diverges

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status

2014-07-07 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 02:38:57PM +, Dugger, Donald D wrote: > Well, my main thought is that I would prefer to see the gantt split > done sooner rather than later. The reality is that we've been trying > to split out the scheduler for months and we're still not there. Until > we bite the bul

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status

2014-07-07 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 07/07/2014 12:00, Michael Still a écrit : > I think you'd be better of requesting an exception for your spec than > splitting the scheduler immediately. These refactorings need to happen > anyways, and if your scheduler work diverges too far from nova then > we're going to have a painful time ge

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status

2014-07-07 Thread Dugger, Donald D
Well, my main thought is that I would prefer to see the gantt split done sooner rather than later. The reality is that we've been trying to split out the scheduler for months and we're still not there. Until we bite the bullet and actually do the split I'm afraid we'll still be here discussing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status

2014-07-07 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 09:28:16AM +0200, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > Le 04/07/2014 10:41, Daniel P. Berrange a écrit : > > On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 03:30:06PM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: > >> On 07/03/2014 01:53 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > >>> That doesn't mean Gantt will move forward and leave all miss

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status

2014-07-07 Thread Michael Still
I think you'd be better of requesting an exception for your spec than splitting the scheduler immediately. These refactorings need to happen anyways, and if your scheduler work diverges too far from nova then we're going to have a painful time getting things back in sync later. Michael On Mon, Ju

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status

2014-07-07 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 04/07/2014 10:41, Daniel P. Berrange a écrit : > On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 03:30:06PM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: >> On 07/03/2014 01:53 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> == >>> tl; dr: A decision has been made to split out the scheduler to a >>> separate project not on a feature parity ba

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status

2014-07-04 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 03:30:06PM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 07/03/2014 01:53 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > > Hi, > > > > == > > tl; dr: A decision has been made to split out the scheduler to a > > separate project not on a feature parity basis with nova-scheduler, your > > comments are welco

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Gantt] Scheduler split status

2014-07-03 Thread Russell Bryant
On 07/03/2014 01:53 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > Hi, > > == > tl; dr: A decision has been made to split out the scheduler to a > separate project not on a feature parity basis with nova-scheduler, your > comments are welcome. > == ... > During the last Gantt meeting held Tuesday, we discussed abou