Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-22 Thread Samuel Bercovici
. -Original Message- From: Carlos Garza [mailto:carlos.ga...@rackspace.com] Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 2:47 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question On Apr 18, 2014, at 10:21 AM

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-21 Thread Carlos Garza
en Balukoff [mailto:sbaluk...@bluebox.net<http://bluebox.net>] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 9:07 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question Hi y'all! Carlos: When I say 'client cer

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-21 Thread Stephen Balukoff
ff [mailto:sbaluk...@bluebox.net] > *Sent:* Friday, April 18, 2014 9:07 PM > > *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption > scenario question > > > > Hi y'all! > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Eichberger, German's message of 2014-04-21 11:51:05 -0700: > Hi, > > Despite there are some good use cases for the re-encryption I think it’s out > of scope for a Load Balancer. We can defer that functionality to the VPN – as > long as we have a mechanism to insert a LoadBalancer a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-21 Thread Eichberger, German
, 2014 9:07 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question Hi y'all! Carlos: When I say 'client cert' I'm talking about the certificate / key combination the load balan

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-20 Thread Adam Young
On 04/18/2014 11:21 AM, Stephen Balukoff wrote: Howdy, folks! Could someone explain to me the SSL usage scenario where it makes sense to re-encrypt traffic traffic destined for members of a back-end pool? SSL termination on the load balancer makes sense to me, but I'm having trouble understa

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-20 Thread Carlos Garza
On Apr 18, 2014, at 11:06 PM, Stephen Balukoff mailto:sbaluk...@bluebox.net>> wrote: Hi y'all! Carlos: When I say 'client cert' I'm talking about the certificate / key combination the load balancer will be using to initiate the SSL connection to the back-end server. The implication here is t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-18 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Hi y'all! Carlos: When I say 'client cert' I'm talking about the certificate / key combination the load balancer will be using to initiate the SSL connection to the back-end server. The implication here is that if the back-end server doesn't like the client cert, it will reject the connection (as

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-18 Thread Carlos Garza
On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Stephen Balukoff mailto:sbaluk...@bluebox.net>> wrote: Dang. I was hoping this wasn't the case. (I personally think it's a little silly not to trust your service provider to secure a network when they have root access to all the machines powering your cloud... b

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-18 Thread Carlos Garza
it doesn’t accept client certificates or CA certificates. Thanks, Vijay V. From: Stephen Balukoff [mailto:sbaluk...@bluebox.net<http://bluebox.net>] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 11:06 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutr

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-18 Thread Carlos Garza
On Apr 18, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Stephen Balukoff wrote: > Howdy, folks! > > Could someone explain to me the SSL usage scenario where it makes sense to > re-encrypt traffic traffic destined for members of a back-end pool? SSL > termination on the load balancer makes sense to me, but I'm having

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-18 Thread Rochelle.RochelleGrober
Rocky -Original Message- From: Jorge Miramontes [mailto:jorge.miramon...@rackspace.com] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 2:13 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question +1 for German&

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-18 Thread Jorge Miramontes
+1 for German's use cases. We need SSL re-encryption for decisions the load balancer needs to make at the l7 layer as well. Thanks Clint, for your thorough explanation from a security standpoint. Cheers, --Jorge On 4/18/14 1:38 PM, "Clint Byrum" wrote: >Excerpts from Stephen Balukoff's messa

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Stephen Balukoff's message of 2014-04-18 10:36:11 -0700: > Dang. I was hoping this wasn't the case. (I personally think it's a > little silly not to trust your service provider to secure a network when > they have root access to all the machines powering your cloud... but I > digres

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-18 Thread Vijay Venkatachalam
accept client certificates or CA certificates. Thanks, Vijay V. From: Stephen Balukoff [mailto:sbaluk...@bluebox.net] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 11:06 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-18 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Dang. I was hoping this wasn't the case. (I personally think it's a little silly not to trust your service provider to secure a network when they have root access to all the machines powering your cloud... but I digress.) Part of the reason I was hoping this wasn't the case, isn't just because i

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-18 Thread Eichberger, German
Hi Stephen, The use case is that the Load Balancer needs to look at the HTTP requests be it to add an X-Forward field or change the timeout – but the network between the load balancer and the nodes is not completely private and the sensitive information needs to be again transmitted encrypted.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-18 Thread Phillip Toohill
Hello Stephen, One use case we have, which was actually a highly requested feature for our service, was to ensure that traffic within the internal cloud network was not passed in the clear. I believe this mainly stems from the customers security requirements. I understand this reasoning to allo