Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-11 Thread Anita Kuno
On 01/10/2015 05:57 AM, Armando M. wrote: >> >> If we were standing at a place with a detailed manual upgrade document >> that explained how to do minimal VM downtime, that a few ops had gone >> through and proved out, that would be one thing. And we could figure out >> which parts made sense to pu

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-09 Thread Armando M.
> > If we were standing at a place with a detailed manual upgrade document > that explained how to do minimal VM downtime, that a few ops had gone > through and proved out, that would be one thing. And we could figure out > which parts made sense to put tooling around to make this easier for > ever

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-09 Thread Sean Dague
On 01/09/2015 05:04 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Maru Newby wrote: >>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Sean Dague wrote: >>> >>> The crux of it comes from the fact that the operator voice (especially >>> those folks with large nova-network deploys) wasn't represented there. >>> Once we got back from th

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-09 Thread Jesse Pretorius
On 9 January 2015 at 02:57, Tom Fifield wrote: > On 09/01/15 08:06, Maru Newby wrote: > > The fact that operators running nova-network would like the upstream > community to pay for implementing an automated migration solution for them > is hardly surprising. It is less clear to me that implemen

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-09 Thread Thierry Carrez
Maru Newby wrote: >> On Jan 8, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Sean Dague wrote: >> >> The crux of it comes from the fact that the operator voice (especially >> those folks with large nova-network deploys) wasn't represented there. >> Once we got back from the mid-cycle and brought it to the list, there >> was

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-08 Thread Tom Fifield
On 09/01/15 08:06, Maru Newby wrote: > >> On Jan 8, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Sean Dague wrote: >> >> On 01/08/2015 06:41 PM, Maru Newby wrote: >>> As per a recent exchange on #openstack-neutron, I’ve been asked to present >>> my views on this effort. What follows is in no way intended to detract >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-08 Thread Maru Newby
> On Jan 8, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > > On 01/08/2015 06:41 PM, Maru Newby wrote: >> As per a recent exchange on #openstack-neutron, I’ve been asked to present >> my views on this effort. What follows is in no way intended to detract from >> the hard work and dedication of those u

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-08 Thread Sean Dague
On 01/08/2015 06:41 PM, Maru Newby wrote: > As per a recent exchange on #openstack-neutron, I’ve been asked to present my > views on this effort. What follows is in no way intended to detract from the > hard work and dedication of those undertaking it, but I think that their > energy could be b

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-08 Thread Maru Newby
As per a recent exchange on #openstack-neutron, I’ve been asked to present my views on this effort. What follows is in no way intended to detract from the hard work and dedication of those undertaking it, but I think that their energy could be better spent. At nova’s juno mid-cycle in July, th

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-07 Thread Belmiro Moreira
Hi Anita, I'm available Tuesday and Wednesday (0800-1600 UTC), Friday (0800-1800 UTC). Belmiro On Tuesday, December 30, 2014, Oleg Bondarev wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Anita Kuno > wrote: > >> On 12/24/2014 04:07 AM, Oleg Bondarev wrote: >> > On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:08

[openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2014-12-19 Thread Anita Kuno
Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told you do. Where we are: * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplish