Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-10-08 Thread Paul Carlton
On 08/10/15 09:57, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 03:54:29PM -0600, Chris Friesen wrote: On 10/07/2015 03:14 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: For suspended instances, the scenario is really the same as with completely offline instances. The only extra step is that you need to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-10-08 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 03:54:29PM -0600, Chris Friesen wrote: > On 10/07/2015 03:14 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > >For suspended instances, the scenario is really the same as with completely > >offline instances. The only extra step is that you need to migrate the saved > >image state file, a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-10-07 Thread Chris Friesen
On 10/07/2015 03:14 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: For suspended instances, the scenario is really the same as with completely offline instances. The only extra step is that you need to migrate the saved image state file, as well as the disk images. This is trivial once you have done the code for

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-10-07 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 10:26:05AM +0100, Paul Carlton wrote: > I'd be happy to take this on in Mitaka Ok, first step would be to re-propose the old Kilo spec against Mitaka and we should be able to fast-approve it. > >>>So my reading of this is the issue could be addressed in Mitaka by > >>>impl

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-10-07 Thread Paul Carlton
I'd be happy to take this on in Mitaka On 07/10/15 10:14, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 11:43:52AM -0600, Chris Friesen wrote: On 10/06/2015 11:27 AM, Paul Carlton wrote: On 06/10/15 17:30, Chris Friesen wrote: On 10/06/2015 08:11 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Oc

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-10-07 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 11:43:52AM -0600, Chris Friesen wrote: > On 10/06/2015 11:27 AM, Paul Carlton wrote: > > > > > >On 06/10/15 17:30, Chris Friesen wrote: > >>On 10/06/2015 08:11 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > >>>On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 02:54:21PM +0100, Paul Carlton wrote: > https://revi

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-10-07 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 06:27:12PM +0100, Paul Carlton wrote: > > > On 06/10/15 17:30, Chris Friesen wrote: > >On 10/06/2015 08:11 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > >>On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 02:54:21PM +0100, Paul Carlton wrote: > >>>https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85048/ was raised to address the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-10-06 Thread Chris Friesen
On 10/06/2015 11:27 AM, Paul Carlton wrote: On 06/10/15 17:30, Chris Friesen wrote: On 10/06/2015 08:11 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 02:54:21PM +0100, Paul Carlton wrote: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85048/ was raised to address the migration of instances that ar

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-10-06 Thread Paul Carlton
On 06/10/15 17:30, Chris Friesen wrote: On 10/06/2015 08:11 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 02:54:21PM +0100, Paul Carlton wrote: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85048/ was raised to address the migration of instances that are not running but people did not warm to the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-10-06 Thread Chris Friesen
On 10/06/2015 08:11 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 02:54:21PM +0100, Paul Carlton wrote: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85048/ was raised to address the migration of instances that are not running but people did not warm to the idea of bringing a stopped/suspended instan

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-10-06 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 02:54:21PM +0100, Paul Carlton wrote: > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85048/ was raised to address the > migration of instances that are not running but people did not warm to > the idea of bringing a stopped/suspended instance to a paused state to > migrate it. Is there

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-10-06 Thread Paul Carlton
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85048/ was raised to address the migration of instances that are not running but people did not warm to the idea of bringing a stopped/suspended instance to a paused state to migrate it. Is there any work in progress to get libvirt enhanced to perform the migratio

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-10-02 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 06:20:31AM +, Koniszewski, Pawel wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Mathieu Gagné [mailto:mga...@internap.com] > > Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 7:24 PM > > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) [. . .] > > >> I have taken the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-10-02 Thread Rosa, Andrea (HP Cloud Services)
Hi all > Not all of these are covered by specs yet and all the existing specs need > reviews. Please look at the etherpad and see if there is anything you think is > missing. What about adding a way to migrate files which are not migrated at the moment, like console.log? I think that could be

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-10-01 Thread Koniszewski, Pawel
> -Original Message- > From: Mathieu Gagné [mailto:mga...@internap.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 7:24 PM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka > > On 2015-10-01 7:26

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-10-01 Thread Mathieu Gagné
On 2015-10-01 7:26 AM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:25:12AM +, Murray, Paul (HP Cloud) wrote: >> >>> Please respond to this post if you have an interest in this and what >>> you would like to see done. Include anything you are already >>> getting on with so we get a cl

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-10-01 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:25:12AM +, Murray, Paul (HP Cloud) wrote: > > > Please respond to this post if you have an interest in this and what > > you would like to see done. Include anything you are already > > getting on with so we get a clear picture. > > Thank you to those who replied t

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-30 Thread Chris Friesen
On 09/30/2015 06:03 AM, Koniszewski, Pawel wrote: From: Murray, Paul (HP Cloud) [mailto:pmur...@hpe.com] - migrate suspended instances I'm not sure I understand this correctly. When user calls 'nova suspend' I thought that it actually "hibernates" VM and saves memory state to disk [2][3]. In

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-30 Thread Koniszewski, Pawel
> -Original Message- > From: Murray, Paul (HP Cloud) [mailto:pmur...@hpe.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 1:25 PM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-30 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud)
> Please respond to this post if you have an interest in this and what you > would like to see done. > Include anything you are already getting on with so we get a clear picture. Thank you to those who replied to this thread. I have used the contents to start an etherpad page here: https://e

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-23 Thread Paul Carlton
On 23/09/15 14:11, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 01:48:17PM +0100, Paul Carlton wrote: On 22/09/15 16:44, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 09:29:46AM -0600, Chris Friesen wrote: There is also work on post-copy migration in QEMU. Normally with live migrat

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-23 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 01:48:17PM +0100, Paul Carlton wrote: > > > On 22/09/15 16:44, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > >On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 09:29:46AM -0600, Chris Friesen wrote: > There is also work on post-copy migration in QEMU. Normally with live > migration, the guest doesn't start e

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-23 Thread Paul Carlton
On 22/09/15 16:44, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 09:29:46AM -0600, Chris Friesen wrote: There is also work on post-copy migration in QEMU. Normally with live migration, the guest doesn't start executing on the target host until migration has transferred all data. There are

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-23 Thread Paul Carlton
On 22/09/15 16:20, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 09:05:11AM -0600, Chris Friesen wrote: On 09/21/2015 02:56 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 05:47:31PM +, Carlton, Paul (Cloud Services) wrote: However the most significant impediment we encountered

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-22 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 09:29:46AM -0600, Chris Friesen wrote: > >>There is also work on post-copy migration in QEMU. Normally with live > >>migration, the guest doesn't start executing on the target host until > >>migration has transferred all data. There are many workloads where that > >>doesn't

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-22 Thread Chris Friesen
Apologies for the indirect quote, some of the earlier posts got deleted before I noticed the thread. On 09/21/2015 03:43 AM, Koniszewski, Pawel wrote: -Original Message- From: Daniel P. Berrange [mailto:berra...@redhat.com] There was a proposal to nova to allow the 'pause' operation

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-22 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 09:05:11AM -0600, Chris Friesen wrote: > On 09/21/2015 02:56 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > >On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 05:47:31PM +, Carlton, Paul (Cloud Services) > >wrote: > >>However the most significant impediment we encountered was customer > >>complaints about perf

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-22 Thread Chris Friesen
On 09/21/2015 02:56 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 05:47:31PM +, Carlton, Paul (Cloud Services) wrote: However the most significant impediment we encountered was customer complaints about performance of instances during migration. We did a little bit of work to identi

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-22 Thread Rosa, Andrea (HP Cloud Services)
Hi all, > Please respond to this post if you have an interest in this and what you > would like to see done. Include anything you are already getting on with so > we get a clear picture. I have put a new spec about "allow more instance actions during the live migration" [0]. Please note that

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-21 Thread Paul Carlton
m] Sent: 21 September 2015 09:56 To: Carlton, Paul (Cloud Services) Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 05:47:31PM +, Carlton, Paul (Cloud Services) wrote: However the most

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-21 Thread Koniszewski, Pawel
> -Original Message- > From: Daniel P. Berrange [mailto:berra...@redhat.com] > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 5:24 PM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka > > On Fri, Sep 1

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-21 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 05:47:31PM +, Carlton, Paul (Cloud Services) wrote: > However the most significant impediment we encountered was customer > complaints about performance of instances during migration. We did a little > bit of work to identify the cause of this and concluded that the mai

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-18 Thread Timofei Durakov
Hi, some work items: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/073965.html - ci coverage for live-migration https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/split-different-live-migration-types - compute + drivers code cleanup On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 6:47 PM, John Garbutt wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-18 Thread John Garbutt
On 18 September 2015 at 16:23, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:53:05AM +, Murray, Paul (HP Cloud) wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> There are various efforts going on around live migration at the moment: >> fixing up CI, bug fixes, additions to cover more corner cases, proposals >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-18 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:53:05AM +, Murray, Paul (HP Cloud) wrote: > Hi All, > > There are various efforts going on around live migration at the moment: > fixing up CI, bug fixes, additions to cover more corner cases, proposals > for new operations > > Generally live migration could do

[openstack-dev] [nova] live migration in Mitaka

2015-09-18 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud)
Hi All, There are various efforts going on around live migration at the moment: fixing up CI, bug fixes, additions to cover more corner cases, proposals for new operations Generally live migration could do with a little TLC (see: [1]), so I am going to suggest we give some of that care in